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    15th September 2006, 10:54 AM
    Quote:Affirmative action = reverse discrimination.

    The most discriminated against person in the world is the white christian male between the ages of 18-35.

    So ridiculous that I laughed when reading it... I know lots of people believe that, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Affirmative action, as I said, exists to try to lessen the impact of ancient biases and prejudices. Until people realize that such thinking is wrong it is needed.

    ... not that I expect you to agree, given how our views on so many issues are nearly polar opposites...

    Quote:Without trying to sound egocentric, I can lift my wife with one arm, even throw her like a basketball. A 5'6" woman who weighs 140 is going to be a stain on my boot in no time. This also plays in military action. I man has a higher survivability rate, period. A man can take a wound easier simply because they have more body mass, a man can move faster in full gear because we actually have more muscle in our upper torsos and core than women. Of course it all comes down to can they carry a weapon and kill the badguy, if that's met then all is well. But there are situations that call for strength and women cannot help in that area. Like it or not, believe it or not. If i'm a general about to go on the offensive, I want as low a female population as possible in my effort because it will increase my success percent. Obviously, if I have a well built woman on my team i'll use her no questions asked, but this is common sense. I wouldn't want 140 pound men on my team either.

    Simply, if you are capable of doing something, you should be allowed to, regardless of any other factors... and in this modern world, the number of jobs where strength actually matters to such a degree that most women would not be able to really carry out the job is very, very small. Police officers? That's what guns (or tazers, or whatever) are for... military? What about vehicles? The air force is already integrated, and ship crews in the Navy (excepting submarines, which exclude women because of very limited space that would make separate quarters and stuff impossible)... why not things like helicopters or vehicle crews in the Army? Not to mention how in Iraq women who have been in combat (convoys under fire and stuff, happens fairly often) have done just fine... most combat is done with guns after all, which greatly lessens the impact of the physical differences. So no, I don't agree that just because of inherently lesser strength women should be excluded... no one should be forced to do a job they don't want to do, but if someone WANTS to join the infantry, they definitely should be allowed to... though physical standards and stuff shouldn't be lessened just to let people in. There would have to be some standard applicable to all, but I'm sure some women could meet such a standard...

    Quote:So again, it all comes down to ability. But at no time should anyone be outright excluded. If you had to choose from a group of basketball players and one of them was an 8 foot tall asian woman, who are going to pick? Not everyone has ability in every specific regiment. The term of equality is a angry-child mentality.

    The point is that in this world it doesn't just come down to ability. Women who potentially are good enough to be on sports teams aren't there because of their gender... that's just how it is, and it's too bad... yeah, in something like sports if it was purely based on ability the majority would certainly be male in most cases (there may be some specific jobs or positions or stuff where gender would matter less, but that'd vary from sport to sport), but it wouldn't be 100% to 0% like it is now.

    Quote:Equality is a term that is not used in its proper meaning. When people use it, they actually mean special treatment. If common sense isn't the primary focus of the direction of process, you are demanding failure.

    As long as things are still unequal though, there's always a very real possibility that it is a valid complaint... and in some ways things are always unequal in some way or another; that's never going to change... but anyway, sure, maybe sometimes people do abuse the concept of equality that way, but I'm sure that in the vast majority of cases it's accurate...
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    The Fight For Equlity - by etoven - 4th July 2006, 3:03 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Dark Jaguar - 4th July 2006, 3:04 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Placio Areli - 3rd September 2006, 10:09 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 3rd September 2006, 10:34 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by N-Man - 4th September 2006, 3:52 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Weltall - 4th September 2006, 4:16 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Dark Lord Neo - 4th September 2006, 9:08 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 5th September 2006, 9:14 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Weltall - 6th September 2006, 9:33 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by lazyfatbum - 7th September 2006, 7:11 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by TheBiggah - 15th September 2006, 10:40 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 15th September 2006, 10:54 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 7th March 2007, 12:35 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Weltall - 7th March 2007, 12:45 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 7th March 2007, 1:39 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Weltall - 7th March 2007, 2:54 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by alien space marine - 7th March 2007, 3:02 AM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 17th March 2007, 9:44 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Weltall - 31st March 2007, 9:01 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 11th April 2007, 12:48 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by Sacred Jellybean - 11th April 2007, 1:09 PM
    The Fight For Equlity - by A Black Falcon - 11th April 2007, 2:52 PM

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