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29th June 2005, 6:14 PM
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2461&p=1
Detailed, interesting read, go read it. ... and remember that the Cube also uses some form of IBM PowerPC CPU as well.
29th June 2005, 6:33 PM
Quote:Right now, from what we’ve heard, the real-world performance of the Xenon CPU is about twice that of the 733MHz processor in the first Xbox. Heh, looks like Nintendo's prediction of the Revolution being 3-4 times more powerful than the GC isn't that small afterall.
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
29th June 2005, 7:02 PM
The article was removed, maybe Sony or MS's lawyers got to them... :D Seems pretty quick for that, though... but I can't think of another reason it'd dissapear.
Anyway, it said that the IBM PowerPC CPU is underpowered, essentially. This isn't new -- why do you think Apple gave up on IBM? Yeah. And remember that Apple said that they looked at the Cell, but it was lacking in some things they thought computers needed, so they didn't use it... anyway, it says that the Xenon has a 3-unit CPU (the main complaint here is that parallel processing won't happen for some time... the thing is designed to run multiple operations at once, but at first it'll just be doing one at a time, slowing things down quite a bit -- and it could take a while before people can run three or four operations at once like it's supposed to. This hurts speed, obviously.), all of which are general-use, versus the Cell with one core that has nine minicore things that do specific tasks. It then said that the uses of the minicore things (SPUs or something?) were, according to the devkits, pretty limited, so they couldn't completely make up for the fact that the PowerPC is a relatively weak CPU... then Anand proceeded to attack the relevance of the "flop" (operations per second count), saying that it's an irrelevant number with no real-world applications -- you can't just run math equasions on the CPU all the time, it's got other things it's got to do... so MS's "one Teraflop" vs. Sony's "2 teraflop" argument really doesn't matter. He then gave an example of the Pentium 4 vs. the Athalon 64 -- the P4 can do 15 billion flops while the Athalon 64 can do 8.5 billion, so the P4 is twice as good as the Athalon 64, right?  In the end, though, he did say that there was a saving grace... the GPUs. Both the PS3 and X360's graphics cards are said to be quite good...
29th June 2005, 7:38 PM
Quote:The article was removed, maybe Sony or MS's lawyers got to them... Seems pretty quick for that, though... but I can't think of another reason it'd dissapear. Too late! I already read it!
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
29th June 2005, 7:41 PM
Me too. :) They acted impressively fast, though...
29th June 2005, 7:58 PM
That pretty much proves that it was true.
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
29th June 2005, 8:00 PM
Well you better UNread it!
Proves it eh? You sure have low standards for proof :D.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
30th June 2005, 3:32 PM
So you mean every single time that an article has ever been taken down, it's always due to a company asking it to be removed, and then it's always because it reveals a damaging fact?
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
30th June 2005, 4:48 PM
Did you perhaps think that, for example, the news site may have found out their source was innaccurate and had it pulled? Or, in the same vein, the story was so completely inaccurate it was libel, stating as fact things about a company that simply were not true, and the company had it removed because of that reason?
That stuff does happen very often you know.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
30th June 2005, 4:51 PM
I'd say it proves that it said things that those companies didn't want said, and it surely had a lot of truths in it... but they'd have to have some kind of hook to get him to take it down, so who knows the whole story. But the article as it was was quite good, if negative...
hmm... http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview....erthread=y Here's a link to a copy of the article... while it lasts... :D Read. http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb/ultimatebb....p=1#000009
30th June 2005, 7:27 PM
Quote:Did you perhaps think that, for example, the news site may have found out their source was innaccurate and had it pulled? Or, in the same vein, the story was so completely inaccurate it was libel, stating as fact things about a company that simply were not true, and the company had it removed because of that reason? You have an odd sense of humor, DJ. You know sometimes people do use things like hyperbole for the sake of being humorous or in a jokular fashion. Like I do. All the time.
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
30th June 2005, 9:58 PM
You didn't really make it clear that you were being sarcastic or didn't mean it... Such things aren't conveyed well with text.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
1st July 2005, 12:51 PM
What? They aren't. It's not as though you can claim otherwise.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
1st July 2005, 1:03 PM
That's the way I post all the time though!
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
4th July 2005, 7:45 AM
Then every post I made would be full of smilies and that just looks tacky.
Sometimes you get the scorpion.
4th July 2005, 11:17 AM
There's nothing wrong with smilies...
19th July 2005, 2:53 PM
textual emphasis and linguistics are fucking easy Jesus shit it's not that hard boys and girls.
Oh God I love Hitler Oh... GOD! I love Hitler!  oh, god. I LOVE hitler. Oh God... I love.......... Hitler  OMG I LUV HITLER :gay2: oh gawwwd I "love" Hitler.  Oh! ...God I love Hitler!? :screwy: Oh God, I love Hitler.  Then try it with emotie stars Oh God. I love Hitler.... *joins a cult* :D I mean really the principal is easy enough, anyone who has a hard time communicating over the internet needs a kick in the pants. |
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