24th January 2004, 9:19 PM
Quote:Agreed.
I'd say that that's a conservative site (or at least religious), but that article succeeds by not really saying which side is better but that both have flaws...
Quote:Translation: "I repeat what my liberal college professors tell me to believe, but I don't know why."
And parents (erm, one a liberal college professor), and relatives (...most of whom are liberals too, and several college professors), and common sense...
Either way I'd look harder if I didn't know you would never pay much attention to anything I found, so what's the point?
http://www.thismodernworld.com/ - the This Modern World website, and liberal blog... :)
http://www.michaelmoore.com/ -- Bush's exemplary military record!
Quote:The right for blacks to vote was established in the 15th amendment, a hundred years before the civil rights movement.
The thing is, there has been a lot of change. Again, our generation is more tolerant and accepting than any other before... and yet, things get worse.
As for it helping a lot of people, stop saying nonsense you can't prove. If you can't the time to show me, then don't bother telling me.
And blocked in the South by Jim Crow until the Civil Rights Movement succeeded.
And yes, each generation is more tolerant than the one before it. It gives me hope that in the long run we'll get past the hatred people like you have for some groups... though things like despising poor people are unlikely to change.
Quote:How are the helping people? Again, don't say what you can't prove.
With our wide variety of social programs of course...
Quote:What about the middle class? Liberals so often forget it exists, even though it's the largest economic class, the one that bears much of the tax burden.
My family was poor once. We aren't now. We're not rich but we're comfortable. And we never used government subsidies to get here. My parents worked hard and saved scrupulously. So no, I don't think all poor people are stupid and lazy, but I do think quite a few are and I think a good reason some are is because of free handouts. This is why I also know that poor people CAN in fact succeed without government handouts. It takes hard work and smarts. And if my family can do it, why can't anyone else?
The middle class? All anyone needs to do to know the Republicans aren't for them is look at their tax bill. Maybe Bush's tax cuts cut a couple hundred dollars. Then look at the tax bill of the top 5% and see how it was cut by thousands and thousands, and had a huge percentage drop.
If the tax burden was fair it would definitely help the middle class... same with health care. A lot of people either don't have any or have poor coverage, and we desperately need to improve that by increasing the amount of health care paid for by the government. This would be a huge help for everyone, from the uninsured to small business owners...
Oh, and so your family got out. It does happen sometimes. Just very rarely, especially when you consider how many people are poor. The "we got out so anyone could" fallacy has been one of conservatism's biggest fallacies about poverty for centuries now...
Quote:It's not a cause, just a very unfortunate effect.
Absolutely not. If social programs had really been tried, and had been given the time to work, this whole thing might have either been avoided or wouldn't have been as big... now I know that not everyone will escape poverty, but we should try as hard as we can to go for that goal.