I am happy to announce...

[Weltall]

...that I have completed the Tendo City 2003 Holiday Edition style set. It is a bit more functional than TC 5.0, and OB1 and ABF's gripes have been fixed.

Should you want to use it, go to Edit Options in the Control Panel, select Christmas 2003, and enjoy!

[OB1]

Very nice! Nice job, Welly! Now let's hope a good TC 6.0 comes soon after this. :D

[The Former DMiller]

Very cool. Very bright too, but still cool.

[A Black Falcon]

1024x786-optimized, too.

But even if it wasn't I wouldn't keep it... very bright and December 1 is NOT Christmastime!

[Dark Jaguar]

The entire month of December is Christmas time okay? Just like the entire month of October is Halloween time, and the entire month of November is Thanksgiving time. Just accept it. The month a major holiday falls in is automatically that holiday's month. December = Christmas Exactly why would you complain about that?

[A Black Falcon]

Look, there is just one reason that Christmas now starts before Thanksgiving, and its called "stores want to sell more stuff"... and they got everyone convinced that it's Christmas in November.

And I complain because its annoying to have Christmas music and Christmas lights and Christmas displays everywhere for a whole MONTH before the holiday!

... but part of it is because our family has always been the type to put the tree up a week or maybe up to two before christmas and leave it up weeks into January... and put up our one string of Christmas lights like the night before. :D

[Dark Jaguar]

Um, I... guess?

(Yeesh, cranky...)

[Sacred Jellybean]

Weee! This theme is awesome. :love:

[Great Rumbler]

Wooo!

[A Black Falcon]

It's too bright and has a stupid 'write post here' box (you know, where you write your posts...) that goes over the edge of the screen...

[Dark Jaguar]

You mean a text box? Anyway, maybe over the edge of your screen, but I'd suggest getting a clearer or larger moniter. Everything's going to the 1000's resolutions now. Best you adapt. You can always increase the windows font size and icon size if you think things are too small.

[A Black Falcon]

I mean the box you write your posts in, it goes over the edge of the screen in 800x600. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I'm still using TC4.0. It's better, and has the link to the "special" forum... :D

And it's not just text that's too small, it's everything, the taskbar icons, icons everywhere, text, buttons... just everything, I like them bigger.

And I have a 17" monitor, BTW.

[Weltall]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
I mean the box you write your posts in, it goes over the edge of the screen in 800x600. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I'm still using TC4.0. It's better, and has the link to the "special" forum... :D

And it's not just text that's too small, it's everything, the taskbar icons, icons everywhere, text, buttons... just everything, I like them bigger.

And I have a 17" monitor, BTW.

You are of course aware that you can make all of that stuff as ridiculously large as you want to, right? It's quite easy.

I use 1152x864 res. Below is a modification that might please you.

[Laser Link]

Spiffy cool. Nice job Weltall. Just curious, but does making a new theme involve any XML? I hate XML...

[Laser Link]

Woah. Evil Santa scares me.

[Dark Jaguar]

Um, ABF, I knew you meant the box you type text in. That's called a text box.

And as both Weltal and myself have stated, you can change the size of EVERYTHING. Right-click on your desktop. Select properties. Click on the Appearence tab. Click the Advanced button. Select whatever you want to modify from the two drop down menus. Change away as you like. Shut up!

[The Former DMiller]

Originally posted by Laser Link
Woah. Evil Santa scares me.

Yeah, I didn't notice him for a while since my superfast connection loads the new pages too quick, but when I did finally notice him I turned all the lights on in the apartment and hid under the covers with a baseball bat.

[A Black Falcon]

No. I like 800x600. :)

[Dark Jaguar]

THEN YOU SHALL LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR RESOLUTION CHOICE!

TAKE HIM AWAY! Tell him he may not return until the yeti is DEAD!

[Great Rumbler]

Anyone who uses 800x600 doesn't deserve the text box.

[A Black Falcon]

Well I don't want that layout anyway! :)

[Great Rumbler]

Well, that's good because you can't use it!

[A Black Falcon]

I could... the box isn't actually bigger than the screen, it's just on the side of it so that like half of the box is off the edge. I would just have to scroll over all the time...

[Weltall]

There, I changed it back to what the others have.

As for your reluctance to join the rest of us in the post-1993 graphical world, you bring to mind old farts who refuse to buy 'newfangled' DVD players, or that insist on Fullscreen movies because the black bars bother them, or someone who refuses to drive a car that isn't a piece of shit.

DJ and I have eliminated every reason you have for sticking at ancient resolution.

Now you just do it because you're CONSERVATIVE AND AFRAID OF CHANGE!

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!

[OB1]

How on earth could anyone like 800x600??

[A Black Falcon]

Now you just do it because you're CONSERVATIVE AND AFRAID OF CHANGE!

Actually, in some ways I am...

And you think that just making the text bigger and stuff 'removes all your reasons for liking 800x'? Huh? Uh, I think there's more different than just text size and icons (though those are two of the biggest things)...

[Dark Jaguar]

Yeah, the rest of the differences are the GOOD ones!

[A Black Falcon]

Says you. :)

[Weltall]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Actually, in some ways I am...

And you think that just making the text bigger and stuff 'removes all your reasons for liking 800x'? Huh? Uh, I think there's more different than just text size and icons (though those are two of the biggest things)...

... there are?

[A Black Falcon]

Absolutely! Everything shrinks... fonts in Netscape shrink (sure I can make them larger, but everything else still shrinks), buttons shrink, smilies, boxes, the taskbar icons get all funny shaped, that large font size looks really ugly, text shrinks in many places... etc, etc... the screen is larger and everything is smaller. Yes, with 'Windows Standard (large)' enabled.

[Weltall]

None of that stuff is 'shrinking'. It's looking the way it was intended to.

It's just too damned small. Everything is way too cramped. When I designed this look, it isn't intended to overlap other things and stretch the page out, because when you view it in a normal resolution, it looks perfect. Conversely, if I design it with 800x600 in mind, when viewed at a normal resolution it looks very empty.

You need to move along with the times.

[A Black Falcon]

Huh? I don't know what you mean by 'intended', but I don't think Windows is "intended" for some specific resolution, at least certainly not pre-XP... ME has the same look as 98 and 95, and given that I'd say its more "intended" for 800x or maybe even 640x than 1024. :)

As for webpages, you're right -- something that looks good in 1024 stretches the screen in 800, and something that looks good in 800 is empty in 1024. Uh, so why don't you like make two versions of each (or some of) the layouts or something? I mean, the 'choose theme' option is there for a reason...

Though, there is one thing that would be GREAT. How about letting me keep the theme I select all along? What I mean is this: When I load TC, it has the default layout, in this case 'christmas'. I have to go to the Control Panel, or load some specific forums, to get it to load my preferred layout of TC 4.0... why is this? Why can't it just load my preferred layout when I go to the main forum page? It's quite annoying (not new though -- it's always been like this).

[Dark Jaguar]

Um, ABF, it DOES let you keep it! It's saved my preffered style all along. If you go to your control panel, SAVE IT after changing it. Also, activate cookies. It'll remember it for you that way.

[A Black Falcon]

I have cookies activated and I obviously save the changes in that screen -- I don't have ot actually go slelect the theme I like again, I just have to go to the main User Control Panel screen, where it loads 4.0 and I can then use the top links to go to the forums (ie I don't have to change the style every time).

But every time I come to TC, it logs me in... using the default style. Argh!

[Dark Jaguar]

Maybe it's because you're using Netscape... I don't have that problem...

[A Black Falcon]

I don't see why Netscape would be any different...

[Weltall]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Huh? I don't know what you mean by 'intended', but I don't think Windows is "intended" for some specific resolution, at least certainly not pre-XP... ME has the same look as 98 and 95, and given that I'd say its more "intended" for 800x or maybe even 640x than 1024. :)

As for webpages, you're right -- something that looks good in 1024 stretches the screen in 800, and something that looks good in 800 is empty in 1024. Uh, so why don't you like make two versions of each (or some of) the layouts or something? I mean, the 'choose theme' option is there for a reason...

Though, there is one thing that would be GREAT. How about letting me keep the theme I select all along? What I mean is this: When I load TC, it has the default layout, in this case 'christmas'. I have to go to the Control Panel, or load some specific forums, to get it to load my preferred layout of TC 4.0... why is this? Why can't it just load my preferred layout when I go to the main forum page? It's quite annoying (not new though -- it's always been like this).

I could make two, but I believe in coercing people to move with the times. I'm the same way at work when suggesting a widescreen DVD over a fullscreen.

Besides, making ONE layout takes long enough. This one took me five days.

As for your second point, DJ's right, it must be your cookies. I never have a problem keeping my style loaded. Do you have the control panel keep you logged in? I'm sure it does that. I use both IE and Moz interchangably and I never have problems, nor have I ever heard of anyone else having their styles reset.

There is a default setting, however, and I keep it to whichever my current style is, because that's what I want people to see when... if... they ever come to this page.

[A Black Falcon]

How many cookies does TC have? I have six in my cookies screen from this site... is there one that's accidentally blocked or something strange like that?

Oh, and you both say that it remembers which style you choose without having to go to the control panel right after it logs you in (yes, of course I have the cookie auto-login on...), but never use anything other than the default? :S Uhh... that doesn't help my problem, unless you've used something other than default for a while (and not just in one session) before...

And it's odd because it resets the style but I don't have to change the style to get it back to what I set it to, I just have to go to the main control panel screen...

[Dark Jaguar]

I never said I ONLY use default! For a while I used TC: Black as my custom format. Each and every time I went here, it automatically loaded that style.

Use IE. It's built into Windows so I KNOW you have it. Test it out there.

[A Black Falcon]

IE is evil.

And I tried something... I deleted those six cookies from TC and let the site create however many it needed again. And know what? It's working now... must have had something messed up in one of my cookies. :)

[Fittisize]

As for your reluctance to join the rest of us in the post-1993 graphical world, you bring to mind old farts who refuse to buy 'newfangled' DVD players, or that insist on Fullscreen movies because the black bars bother them, or someone who refuses to drive a car that isn't a piece of shit.

I could make two, but I believe in coercing people to move with the times. I'm the same way at work when suggesting a widescreen DVD over a fullscreen.

Why is it so important to you for everybody to keep on upgrading and going on with every new thing? Maybe some just like it old-fashioned.

[A Black Falcon]

Yeah! Why must what's new always be what's best?

[Weltall]

Because if it weren't, we'd still be riding horses and wiping our asses with dead leaves. If we even got that far.

[Great Rumbler]

New things are cool.

[A Black Falcon]

There is of course a thing such as too old, (like using 640x480?) but this isn't one of them. :)

[Weltall]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
There is of course a thing such as too old, (like using 640x480?) but this isn't one of them. :)

800x600 was good in the days when 17 inch monitors were a thousand dollars and videocards had under a meg of VRAM.

[A Black Falcon]

Incorrect. Back then people used 640x480. Actually, 640x480 was surprisingly common as late as '97 or '98...

[Weltall]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Incorrect. Back then people used 640x480. Actually, 640x480 was surprisingly common as late as '97 or '98...

*I* didn't. Though maybe I had a little more VRAM. 1MB? 2?

[A Black Falcon]

Infoceptor this week has a poll asking what resolution people use... they say that when the site was started in '97 the majority of their users had 640x480. Right now 1024 is running away with it at over 60%, with 1200 second at 20% and 800 third at 9%. :)

It's hardly scientific, but it says something...

http://www.infoceptor.com

[Fittisize]

Originally posted by Weltall
Because if it weren't, we'd still be riding horses and wiping our asses with dead leaves. If we even got that far.

Yeah but, why is it so important to you that everbody has the newest and latest electronics? Like, what do you care if somebody has fullscreen over widescreen?