The Official Super Smash Bros. Brawl Thread - See you in March!!

[A Black Falcon]

Such a lame selection of new characters, really... a couple are good, but a lot of them... not so much.

[Dark Jaguar]

Actually I like a lot of them. There's just more that I would have rather seen. I guess my choices would have been to include new franchises rather than expand on ones already represented. It's okay though. I love what I've seen.

[EdenMaster]

They're never going to be able to include every character that everyone wants. As Picard would say, The line must be drawn here! ("heea!"?)

That said, I'm happy with the roster we have. Could it be better? Of course it could, it could ALWAYS be better. There will ALWAYS be awesome characters to add that will be left out.

DJ I really am not holding on to hopes that Ganondorf will play the same this time around. If anything, I'm looking forward to playing as Dedede. From the videos I've seen, he seems to really fit my playstyle. Heck, Fox was my favorite in SSB and I never really cared for him in Melee. Perhaps the same will be with Ganondorf and Brawl.

As for Wolf, I'm sure he's different. Fox's rival can't use the same moveset, that would be MADNESS. I'm surprised to see Falco, though. I'm curious as to whether his moveset has changed (as well as Ganondorf, Toon/Young Link, and Ness/Lucas) to fit the whole "no clones" promise Sakurai gave us.

But even if not, we're getting a roster of 35 characters with only 4 clones, worst case scenario. I can definitely live with that :D

Such a lame selection of new characters, really... a couple are good, but a lot of them... not so much.

I don't think I've seen you say one positive thing this entire 12-page thread. Or if you have, the positive post/negative post ratio is staggering.

"ABF, did you hear?! They cured cancer!"
"Yeah...but AIDS is still out there...and it sure did take them a long time to do it..."

[A Black Falcon]

I don't think I've seen you say one positive thing this entire 12-page thread. Or if you have, the positive post/negative post ratio is staggering.

They haven't done a lot that I liked with this game, really, in some ways...

[EdenMaster]

They haven't done a lot that I liked with this game, really, in some ways...

I'm not trying to start up this old argument again but this is the one, true, must-have, system-selling killer app that most everyone who's ever heard the name Mario wants.

I'm really having a difficult time understanding how unenthusiastic you are about it.

[Dark Jaguar]

There is no accounting for taste EM. Art isn't "good" or "bad", it's all completely relative. My tastes differ from his, and so do your's. That's all there is.

[A Black Falcon]

I played SSBM last week (multiplayer)... after two matches I was bored and wanted to play something else. It's an okay game, but I just don't find it addictive...

[EdenMaster]

There is no accounting for taste EM. Art isn't "good" or "bad", it's all completely relative. My tastes differ from his, and so do your's. That's all there is.

I guess so. Still, it's just odd to see the game the entire world is exploding with delight over, and then looking at ABF giving the same game a resounding "Meh.".

[Dark Jaguar]

I certainly can't say I share his opinion. I've always loved the Smash series. To each their own and all that.

[DMiller]

My students have really been anticipating it. Every morning before school a group of them comes into my computer lab and we look at the latest site update. I had been waiting forever for Ness confirmation but I finally got it when the final roster was leaked the other day. More and more kids have been showing up everyday including kids I've never had in class so the hype is building even with the too-cool high school crowd.

[EdenMaster]

Now that it's out in Japan, I've been finding a steady amount of one of my most anticipated parts of the game, the music. A few I knew I would like, and a few I happened upon that have pleasantly surprised me.

Kirby Boss Battle Medley

Star Wolf Theme

Go K.K. Rider!

Find any more good ones, post em!

[Dark Jaguar]

From this point out, I'm going on a SSBB info fast. I've got the characters and if the story is written by the guy who frickin' wrote the Kingdom Hearts story (it is), I actually don't want to spoil it for myself. I mean, it's Smash Bros., and I don't want to spoil the game's "storyline"? What's wrong with me?

Oh wait, I do have to add one thing. It seems Wolf really is more or less a Fox clone. Makes sense. I mean aside from their character, they are basically the same.

[EdenMaster]

Well, I'm trying not too look into the Subspace Emissary. Though I want to know everything about the game, I DO want to have something to play that is totally new.

[Laser Link]

ABF- I've never seen Olberman's news show. I can't really handle anybody's news shows, and I dislike politics even more. My endearment comes from the days of Keith Olberman and Dan Patrick on "The Big Show", with an occasional joining of Craig Kilborn, Charlie Steiner, or the rest of the gang. Special memories, there. You can't stop them, you can only hope to contain them.

[Laser Link]

And if you ask me, I think Tobias Funke should be a playable character.

Narrator: He is.

[EdenMaster]

And if you ask me, I think Tobias Funke should be a playable character.

Narrator: He is.

:D

Down B changes him into Mrs. Featherbottom
Up B is FIRE SALE

Man, I can't think up any other good ones. I really need to watch those DVD's again.

Narrator: In fact, he'd already been wanting to watch the series again. This incident had merely given him a better reason.

[DMiller]

Forward-Smash: Awkward Hug

[EdenMaster]

Nice one :D

Final Smash: ANALRAPIST

[Dark Jaguar]

I don't know what any of that means, but there's this.

<img src="http://www.n-europe.com/featuresgfx/gamerpals37.jpg">

[Sacred Jellybean]

Before I looked at the title I thought that was VG Cats. Pretty funny.

[EdenMaster]

Completely unexpected...but quite possibly my new favorite Brawl song:D

(To DJ, no spoilers, it's not even really a video. Just a song and a still image.)

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[Dark Jaguar]

Is... is there a Tetris level, or just music? Either way, I love this song! You see, THIS is what I consider the ONLY music worthy of Tetris. Forget that "fusion techno rap beat" stuff they stick in the new ones, just give me classical music, from Russia, with fun!

[EdenMaster]

I believe it plays on the Pictochat level.

[Dark Jaguar]

Maybe. I do know that there is a lot more music than levels this time around, and while certain stages have default music, one can apparently play whatever music/level combo they want.

[EdenMaster]

I've heard the game has close to 300 songs, but that's including stuff like character victory themes and Subspace Emissary stuff, so close to 250 would probably be more accurate. But still...damn :D

[Sacred Jellybean]

I played Brawl over this weekend. I went to a party where someone had a modded Wii and a burned copy of the Japanese version. It was awesome, I loved the levels I played and the characters were pretty good. I played as Wolf, Fox, Falco, Pit, Bowser, and Luigi. My friend told me it was slowed down a bit, and I suppose it was, but it wasn't always noticeable or a hindrance. What the creator says is true - its speed is somewhere between Melee and 64.

Some items were the same, but an interesting newcomer (and I don't remember reading about this on the site) is an item you pick up in 3 or 4 parts. Once you get all parts, a cursor appears on the screen, and you can launch some kind of animal (probably a pokemon, but I couldn't tell you which one, as I'm not a fanatic) at somebody. I never got all the parts, so I didn't experience it for myself.

4 taunts is awesome, but I was too wrapped up in the game to try those out. This experience has made me much more excited for this game. I can't wait until its release, though I have a feeling it'll be a while before my room mate or I can snag a copy. :(

[EdenMaster]

I played Brawl over this weekend. I went to a party where someone had a modded Wii and a burned copy of the Japanese version. It was awesome, I loved the levels I played and the characters were pretty good. I played as Wolf, Fox, Falco, Pit, Bowser, and Luigi. My friend told me it was slowed down a bit, and I suppose it was, but it wasn't always noticeable or a hindrance. What the creator says is true - its speed is somewhere between Melee and 64.

Some items were the same, but an interesting newcomer (and I don't remember reading about this on the site) is an item you pick up in 3 or 4 parts. Once you get all parts, a cursor appears on the screen, and you can launch some kind of animal (probably a pokemon, but I couldn't tell you which one, as I'm not a fanatic) at somebody. I never got all the parts, so I didn't experience it for myself.

4 taunts is awesome, but I was too wrapped up in the game to try those out. This experience has made me much more excited for this game. I can't wait until its release, though I have a feeling it'll be a while before my room mate or I can snag a copy. :(

Yep, that's the Dragoon.

[Dark Jaguar]

Also apparently if you taunt up and down over and over, Samus switches between armored and unarmored. I think that's a bit extreme. Couldn't they just make it as easy as Zelda/Sheik switching? I thought Smash Bros was about simplicity in command inputs.

[EdenMaster]

Well, the problem with that is that Samus is already a defined character. Give her another command so she changes to Zero Suit Samus and she has to lose one of her current attacks.

[Dark Jaguar]

Yeah, I considered that. It would have to be a button that isn't used for anything else. Really they could have just used one of her "taunts" and had that direction always switch. It would more or less be just like how Kirby's taunt ditches his copied abilities.

Is the Dragoon from something, or a unique item (like the fan)? It seems like building it is similar to building your ship in Jetpac, but it's clearly nothing like that ship otherwise.

Also, it seems that in fantasy there's a clear deliniation of power level as determined by what color it is. Grey is always weak, then up to red, white, silver, and gold near the top (if someone's glowing gold, they will tear your face off). Then, if they need something more extreme than that, they always end up giving up and just having them glow with rainbow colors (see: EVERYTHING, such as Sonic in Hyper Sonic mode).

[Dark Jaguar]

Okay, it's probably well known at this point that the old "advanced techniques" (that were more like exploits anyway) are no longer valid. That is, "wave dashing" and so forth.

There's a whole new set of advanced techniques though. Learn them well.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/tec...que10.html

I'm sure there's more than this.

[EdenMaster]

I never wavedashed anyhow. I destroyed everything that game could throw at me with nothing but the tools i was meant to use :)

[Dark Jaguar]

<img src="http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/080218.jpg">

[A Black Falcon]

http://kotaku.com/359450/sakurai-apologi...voice-chat

Well at least he's sorry.

[lazyfatbum]

That's so the best thing in the universe.

Spawn gets extra points, lack of Robocop Kirby is severely dissapointing but Chrono evens it out. 10 is just, I mean, I want that. I want that to sit on my desk. It's her helmet with feet. How perfect is that? 97 made me lol because I knew what it was imeadiately and lastly facehugger kirby needs to be taken out of his misery, but no predator Kirby? and Alien kirby should have just been a pink penis, they really missed out on that. But so yeah, facehugger Kirby, it's just wrong on every level I can imagine, he actually looks like he's in pain.

[Dark Jaguar]

Robocop, the Ultimate Cop. Protect and Serve! Uphold the Law! Murphy!

Also, Simon Belmont. Pyramid Head too. Just the pyramid head with feet and holding a huge sword.

[lazyfatbum]

....hey, YEAH!

*1000* Kirby's ok? That's what it should be. Get on it. I'll sit here and wait while you make it. Because i'm like, all busy and stuff.

oohhhhhh a Kirby with.... with.... a cigarette, Joe Camel Kirby! Now we have another reason to make a pink penis!

WIN

...WIN

*WINNING*

[Dark Jaguar]

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[EdenMaster]

Good old YTMNDs turned into YouTube videos.

[Dark Jaguar]

?

[Captain_Rush]

I dont like vg cats, or the artist that much, but I have to admit this awesome.

[lazyfatbum]

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[EdenMaster]

?

You never saw this on YTMND? I think it's in the Hall of Fame or the Top Rated/Viewed.

Snoop Dogg's Dreamland: http://snoopkirby2.ytmnd.com

On a related note. TWO WEEKS!

[Dark Jaguar]

Wait so someone put a FREE web page up as a youtube video? That makes so little sense I just wanna explode...

[DMiller]

YouTube is free too, so why does it matter?

[Dark Jaguar]

I meant it's a little retarded to reupload something freely and easily viewable to ANOTHER web site in a very space consumy fasion.

[A Black Falcon]

It wasn't on Youtube, though... I don't see the problem.

[Dark Jaguar]

Sure it wasn't on Youtube, but cloning the same content for no reason I can discern seems a lot like just making a cloned youtube page. Oh they do that too.

[A Black Falcon]

But if it's on a site that it wasn't on before, people who didn't see it before might see it... though if you put it there and claim it as your own work or something when it isn't that's not right, other than that it seems like it would be okay.

[Dark Jaguar]

I'm not saying it's immoral, just stupid.