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    etoven
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    #1
    13th August 2005, 8:27 PM
    I just ditermined my self to be the first and only resident in Powatan Va. (The Redneck Captial Of The World) with a voice over Ip telephony system.

    Woot! Yes! I will modernize my community one IP node at a time!
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    13th August 2005, 9:57 PM
    A hopeless quest? :)
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    #3
    13th August 2005, 10:38 PM
    That's more or less why I'm leaving Virginia and never looking back.
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    #4
    14th August 2005, 6:42 PM
    Of equal irrelevance, I'm also the only member of the Middleboro, Massachusetts charter of Tendo City. Cool
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    #5
    14th August 2005, 6:43 PM
    Massachusetts is better than Virginia, though... :)
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    14th August 2005, 8:27 PM
    I know someone with an internet based phone service. I hate internet based phone services. If their cable connection goes down, the phone connection goes down. Never has getting in contact with them been so unreliable. Picture just how unreliable EVERY router is, ALL THE TIME. Is there some setting in there that makes it just stop working outright after a few weeks requiring a physical reset, or what? At any rate, if you ever think there will be a time when you can't miss some important call, DO NOT switch to an internet based phone line. They are only as dependable as your internet connection, and from personal experience, "always on" doesn't literally mean that...
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    #7
    15th August 2005, 10:24 AM
    I use a cell phone.
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    17th August 2005, 9:34 PM
    Dark Jaguar Wrote:I know someone with an internet based phone service. I hate internet based phone services. If their cable connection goes down, the phone connection goes down. Never has getting in contact with them been so unreliable. Picture just how unreliable EVERY router is, ALL THE TIME. Is there some setting in there that makes it just stop working outright after a few weeks requiring a physical reset, or what? At any rate, if you ever think there will be a time when you can't miss some important call, DO NOT switch to an internet based phone line. They are only as dependable as your internet connection, and from personal experience, "always on" doesn't literally mean that...
    My router can automaticly forward calls to voice mail or another number in a network outage ;)
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    17th August 2005, 11:51 PM
    I find it ironic that the phone company here has a voip servie for their DSL service. They make you have a phoneline to get their DSL service, so why would you get VOIP
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    18th August 2005, 9:30 AM
    To etovan: And how does that work exactly? If the internet is down, how do the calls get to your router? Further, if it's as far as your router, and therefor in your house, what's stopping it from just going straight to the phone lines? Basically what I'm saying is, what sort of network outage isn't really a network outage?
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    18th August 2005, 11:39 AM
    Dark Jaguar Wrote:To etovan: And how does that work exactly? If the internet is down, how do the calls get to your router? Further, if it's as far as your router, and therefor in your house, what's stopping it from just going straight to the phone lines? Basically what I'm saying is, what sort of network outage isn't really a network outage?

    The router in question is on a remote seperate connection on a different network at the VoiP service providers main transfer station. Which in turn routes calls to a different number or voice mail in the event my network is down. Aka, with the providers rundent network my network could be complety down aka the house could have completly burned to the ground and yet I will still recive my calls.
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    18th August 2005, 12:11 PM
    Ah, I misunderstood.

    Well the next question is this. How often does your HOUSE router go down? I ask because I've been "through" too many routers in the past few years and I just need to figure out if this is a common problem or if I am cursed by the lag demon.

    First of all, most routers I've had burn through ports at an all too steady rate. I did of course consider the possibility that it was actually the thing I had hooked up to that port that killed it (when I say killed, I mean that router port in particular has been physically shorted out to the point where usability is no longer possible). However, even replacing my ethernet card is not sufficient.

    I then go on to wonder exactly why my router would even need to be reset. Overheating shouldn't be an issue. Any "cache" it stores should be designed internally to flush before any crash occurs. From what I understand of the ethernet system and routers in general, a data collision shouldn't ever occur in my setup. So, I am left wondering if I actually managed to do something wrong or if router technology in general is just not truly "ready".

    Your thoughts?
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    20th August 2005, 10:19 AM
    My router seems to need to be reset all the time. Sometimes I'm too lazy to go all the way downstairs to do it so I just use my neighbours unsecure wireless conection until the next morning
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    20th August 2005, 5:58 PM
    Quote:That's more or less why I'm leaving Virginia and never looking back.

    Where are you going then?
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    20th August 2005, 7:29 PM
    Dark Jaguar Wrote:Ah, I misunderstood.

    Well the next question is this. How often does your HOUSE router go down? I ask because I've been "through" too many routers in the past few years and I just need to figure out if this is a common problem or if I am cursed by the lag demon.

    First of all, most routers I've had burn through ports at an all too steady rate. I did of course consider the possibility that it was actually the thing I had hooked up to that port that killed it (when I say killed, I mean that router port in particular has been physically shorted out to the point where usability is no longer possible). However, even replacing my ethernet card is not sufficient.

    I then go on to wonder exactly why my router would even need to be reset. Overheating shouldn't be an issue. Any "cache" it stores should be designed internally to flush before any crash occurs. From what I understand of the ethernet system and routers in general, a data collision shouldn't ever occur in my setup. So, I am left wondering if I actually managed to do something wrong or if router technology in general is just not truly "ready".

    Your thoughts?

    First of all get a decient router not the d-link crap for example.

    And second check for router firmware updates frequently. That's my advice.
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    #16
    20th August 2005, 7:33 PM
    The question is this. What do you consider "decent"? I've been through many different brand names, but in the end it does have to be AFFORDABLE.

    By the way, get technical! If you have an understanding of why this is happening, even if you don't think I'll "get it", go for it!
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    20th August 2005, 8:22 PM
    Dark Jaguar Wrote:The question is this. What do you consider "decent"? I've been through many different brand names, but in the end it does have to be AFFORDABLE.

    By the way, get technical! If you have an understanding of why this is happening, even if you don't think I'll "get it", go for it!

    Well a nice Cysco systems router is of course the extream high end.

    But for price sake I use the linksis router the new ones with cysco systems routing technology in them just look for the logo on the box.

    Also try Network everywhere brand routers. The cheap side of linksis. Just be shure to check for firmware upades after craking the box.
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    20th August 2005, 10:08 PM
    So basically what you are saying, if I get it right, is that the problem lies entirely in flawed programming as opposed to limitations in the ethernet standard?

    Hey, I KNOW you know really in depth tech stuff! Stop hiding this knowledge from me! I WILL drain every single thought you have!
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