• Login
  • Register
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:
  • Home
  • Members
  • Team
  • Help
User Links
  • Login
  • Register
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:

    Quick Links Home Members Team Help
    Tendo City Tendo City: Metropolitan District Ramble City Microsoft defeated by 17-year-old Canadian!

     
    • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
    Microsoft defeated by 17-year-old Canadian!
    Weltall
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 5,822
    Threads: 321
    Joined: 05-03-2000
    #1
    19th January 2004, 9:53 PM
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34955.html

    Quote:Microsoft lawyers threaten Mike Rowe (17)
    By Kieren McCarthy
    Posted: 19/01/2004 at 10:48 GMT
    <small>Get The Reg wherever you are, with The Mobile Register</small>

    In what could easily be mistaken for an Onion story, Microsoft has unleashed the full fury of its lawyers on 17-year-old Canadian high-school student, Mike Rowe, demanding the handover of his Internet domain.

    The domain? MikeRoweSoft.com. No, seriously.

    Victoria-based Mike is currently studying maths and chemistry and plans to study computer science at Victoria University next year. He registered the domain in August because he thought it would be cool to have a site that sounded like the famous company to show his Web designing skills.

    The Beast of Redmond however reckons that the phonetic domain infringes its copyright and insists Mike hand it over or face the consequences.

    Mike told us that when an email from Microsoft’s Canadian lawyers Smart & Biggar arrived on 19 November laying out its complaint, he was “amazed and appalled”. He replied saying he didn’t want to hand over the domain and didn’t feel there was any risk it would damage Microsoft’s name.

    He then got another email. “They responded to this email by offering to give me all of my out-of-pocket expenses in return for the domain name. This came out to be $10; the amount I paid for the domain. This made me feel insulted. I had spent a lot of time building up my site and I had only been offered $10 for my work. I responded by asking for $10,000, which I regret doing now, for my work and domain name.”

    As he now knows, Mike had unwittingly slipped into the classic trap set by companies in order to get hold of domain names - the creation of a “bad faith” use of the domain. By offering to sell the domain for profit (even if sparked by the offer of payment by the other party), according to the bent logic of domain dispute arbitrators, it shows the owner had no legitimate interest in the domain and so it should be handed over.

    Microsoft, with its case bolstered, declined and Mike heard no more until 14 January when a 25-page letter and book were Fed-Ex’ed to his house explaining why he would have to hand over the domain, stating he had intended all along to sell the domain for profit and that his domain would confuse Microsoft customers.

    “I decided to go to the press when I received the package from the lawyers’ office. I thought people would be interested in my story and I wanted to know what people had to say about the situation I am in. There is really nothing I can do to push or fight this except for telling people how things are going with the whole situation. The domain dispute is in the hands of the WIPO at the moment so I have no control over what happens to my domain name.”

    Can Microsoft really be attempting to take a phonetic-sounding domain name? Well, Mike is reassuringly candid and although we have not seen Microsoft’s letter and the company has yet to confirm or deny its threats are real, it seems to hang together. Unless Mike is a first-rate hoaxer, it would appear that Microsoft really has lost the plot and is trying to extend the already flawed domain dispute rules into hitherto unexplored territory.

    By making the situation public though, Mike tells us he has been bolstered. “After going to the press, I have realised that I should stick it out till the end. After the massive amount of support I have received from people across the globe I am motivated to stick with what I believe in.”

    And so he should. It would seem Microsoft has no choice but to back down as, legally, it doesn’t have a hope in hell of winning and there are plenty of lawyers out there who would love to get a win against Microsoft under their belt.

    Mike doesn’t quite know what to make of it all: “I can’t say I have ever been in a more surreal situation than this. It has all been quite overwhelming really. I don’t know what to say about it, I have just been going with the flow.” ®
    YOU CANNOT HIDE FOREVER
    WE STAND AT THE DOOR
    Reply
    Reply
    A Black Falcon
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 30,489
    Threads: 1,355
    Joined: 12-19-1999
    #2
    19th January 2004, 10:18 PM
    I saw this... funny, isn't it? :) I think he has a right to the site...
    My Games Collection (Always Updated) My Webpage!
    Currently Playing: Various Stuff
    [Image: logo_bos_79x76.jpg]
    Reply
    Reply
    geoboy
    Offline

    Senior Member

    Posts: 454
    Threads: 24
    Joined: 05-15-2000
    #3
    19th January 2004, 11:09 PM
    I'm glad the kid is fighting the good fight. I would have been extremely angry had Microsoft tried to buy me off. And I'm sure anyone would have asked for $10,000 (if not more) if they were in the same situation.

    Though this battle looks like it'll have a good outcome, this cannot be said for similar conflicts. There are many cases where people have the same last name as that of a popular corporate brand, and register a internet domain name. They often fall because corporations have lots of money to throw around and can easily afford to go to court. The owner of the domain is accussed of "cyber squatting", even if they are using the domain for a legitimate cause. And even if they could win a court case easily, most times this person can't afford to go to court and usually settles for a small sum of money.

    There I go ranting again.
    Reply
    Reply
    alien space marine
    Offline

    Posting Freak

    Posts: 4,237
    Threads: 291
    Joined: 02-21-2003
    #4
    20th January 2004, 5:37 AM
    He could counter sue for damages and costs , I honnestly dont see why MS would have any problem with a domain name like that?
    Reply
    Reply
    Great Rumbler
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 21,192
    Threads: 868
    Joined: 07-07-2000
    #5
    20th January 2004, 1:16 PM
    Microsoft = Teh stupid losers.

    Mike Rowe = My hero.
    Sometimes you get the scorpion.
    Reply
    Reply
    Laser Link
    Offline

    Moderator

    Posts: 1,352
    Threads: 54
    Joined: 11-23-1999
    #6
    20th January 2004, 1:46 PM
    Wow, Microsoft is so petty. I really hope that this kid wins, because I am so sick of disgustingly wealthy companies thinking they own the world and we are just lucky they let us live here.
    Reply
    Reply
    Great Rumbler
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 21,192
    Threads: 868
    Joined: 07-07-2000
    #7
    20th January 2004, 2:11 PM
    Mike Rowe should make his own software company. That would be so crazy.
    Sometimes you get the scorpion.
    Reply
    Reply
    The Former DMiller
    Offline

    Super Moderator

    Posts: 1,622
    Threads: 55
    Joined: 10-01-1999
    #8
    20th January 2004, 2:55 PM
    From what I've heard about this most lawyers are saying there is no way Microsoft would win if this case goes to court. I'm sure they are jumping at the chance to represent this kid so they can say they beat Microsoft.
    <a href=http://www.gamespot.com/users/dmiller1984>My Games (GameSpot)</a>
    <a href=http://www.derekmiller.us/>My Website (In A Constant State of Construction)</a>
    [Image: scrubs.jpg]
    Reply
    Reply
    Great Rumbler
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 21,192
    Threads: 868
    Joined: 07-07-2000
    #9
    20th January 2004, 2:57 PM
    What lawyer wouldn't want to be able to say that?
    Sometimes you get the scorpion.
    Reply
    Reply
    A Black Falcon
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 30,489
    Threads: 1,355
    Joined: 12-19-1999
    #10
    20th January 2004, 5:49 PM
    http://news.com.com/2100-1014_3-5143614....g=nefd_top

    Looks good for him.
    My Games Collection (Always Updated) My Webpage!
    Currently Playing: Various Stuff
    [Image: logo_bos_79x76.jpg]
    Reply
    Reply
    Smoke
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 1,322
    Threads: 187
    Joined: 01-21-2000
    #11
    21st January 2004, 12:59 AM
    Reason #3,485 to hate Microsoft.
    Reply
    Reply
    A Black Falcon
    Offline

    Administrator

    Posts: 30,489
    Threads: 1,355
    Joined: 12-19-1999
    #12
    21st January 2004, 10:39 AM
    That low?
    My Games Collection (Always Updated) My Webpage!
    Currently Playing: Various Stuff
    [Image: logo_bos_79x76.jpg]
    Reply
    Reply
    alien space marine
    Offline

    Posting Freak

    Posts: 4,237
    Threads: 291
    Joined: 02-21-2003
    #13
    21st January 2004, 10:40 AM
    Honnestly I think this kid could win the case, As his arguement is that it is his name.
    Reply
    Reply
    « Next Oldest | Next Newest »

    Users browsing this thread:



    • View a Printable Version
    • Subscribe to this thread
    Forum Jump:

    Toven Solutions

    Home · Members · Team · Help · Contact

    408 Chapman St. Salem, Viriginia

    +1 540 4276896

    etoven@gmail.com

    About the company Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

    Linear Mode
    Threaded Mode