Quote:If what Odin says is true and Fenix and SSB did say those kinds of things to him, then I can understand him getting upset. Those truly were dispicable things to say. I'm sure Fenix and SSB didn't mean it quite how they said it, but nevertheless, they should've thought things through more before posting those remarks. I apologize for any offense I may have caused, I just didn't want CS to go down the crapper, and from the way things were looking at the time, Odin was trying to destroy CS. I'm willing to believe that it quite possibly was some internal error at EZBoard (considering how easily EZBoard screws up) that caused some of the posts to be erased, though I still think getting rid of the link to the battlefield was going too far. You were taking your anger towards two people out on the whole community. However, it seems that you have learned from your mistake, and I am willing to give you a second chance. Not as an admin, but as a member here. If the rest of the community concurs, we just might unban you. However, a move like this should not go without punishment, so don't expect to be given your admin powers back ever. I'll let the rest of the community decide whether or not to give you another chance.

Quote: To Odin and Others: (Someone that belongs to TC please copy and paste this and show this to him)

I think that I have some explaining to do on behalf of Fenix and myself. Let me first say that what happened is all documented. The posts that Odin said were vicious and what not are all still here. Look at them if you want. I think it was taken a little out of context. I never said that I wanted him to kill himself. That would be the last thing I would ever want. In fact, after we banned him and everything I really and truly felt bad about it. I would NEVER EVER want anyone to hurt themselves or anyone else over a silly site. I didn't think that Fenix and I let out a total verbal assualt. What I believe happened was that Fenix and I ganged up on Odin at the same time and Odin could not handle the fire from the both of us, which I can understand; no one likes getting ganged up on. I admit I called Odin dumb, but that was because he didn't throughouly know what capitalism was. But please take into account that he called me "Fenix's whore" repeatedly. At no time did he ask for a let up in the debate. He just kept replying to everything me and Fenix said. Like I said earlier all the proof is there: go to "A new color for Gba sp" (something like that) and "toilet cleaner?". In those two topics you will see exactly what happened.

After those heated debates Odin stopped replying. Fenix and I didn't know where he was. Then Fenix found that Odin erased the link to the Battlefield. I asked Odin why he did it and I got no reply. Go to "ODIN!!!!". Fenix and I did not here from Odin for a while. Fenix was thinking of banning him but I told him on IM that he should talk to Weltall first, and Fenix agreed. Well Fenix and I just sat there waiting for Odin to reply. There was only silence. It was around this time that I contacted Lumashi on IM. I told her about how Odin erased the link. SHe was angry. I also told Darunia who was on IM at the time. Darunia did not come to CS; he was busy. Lumashi however did. She then told me that all the topics below "Lumashi doesn't post no more" were screwed up. I looked at them. They were. It said that all of the replies were missing. Go to anyting below "Let's Get Down To Business" to see what I mean. I tried to contact Weltall but alas, he wasn't on IM. Fenix and I saw that whle pages got deleted as well as those posts. Someone or something was deleting them. Fenix and I had to take som ekind of action or CS could have been gobbled up. The only suspect at that time was Odin. Remember he did erase the link to the Battlefield. Fenix then took executive action and banned Odin. For some reason it didn't work; Odin was still on CS and everything was still getting erased. I posted a topic called "Odin Stop" to tell Odin that we were sorry and that he should stop. He did not answer and things till got erased. Finally Fenix deleted Odin's memebership and the deleting stopped. Unfortunately pages 20 to number 2 were gone. Odin did post however. He said that it wasn't his fault and he didn't do it. This sometime after I posted "Odin Stop". And this was after he was banned an dhis membership deleted. He could have posted to any number of topics: "Odin Stop" or "ODIN!!!!". He did not and only after he was banned did he post. I still don't know how he posted after his membership was gone and he was banned. Please understand that at the time all of the evidnece pointed to Odin, for he made no effort to reply to our posts and he deleted the link to the Battlefield an dhe was angry. Is still believe that Odin erased things but anything is possible. That is the story and you can make your own conclusions.

Odin,
I am sorry. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I understand that what I said might of been hurtful to you, but you also were part taking in "name-calling" as well. This is a debate forum and you were a veteran; I thought that you would have been used to heated debates, but perhaps I was too vicous. I am sorry if I was. You were banned because Fenix and I both thought that you were erasing everything. It was an attempt to save CS. Please understand that. Anyway, I see that you want to come back. If we let you back in you will NEVER have adminship again, and you must adhere to either Weltall, Dark Lord Neo, Fenix, or myself. And please understand that if you ever again feel that you are being ruthlessly attacked agian the please tell us to stop and we will. Still I do not know. Right now it still looks like you deleted the stuff; if you can prove otherwise then consider yourself a "new" member of CS.

Quote:Tell Odin I am truly sorry. I feel terrible about the whole thing. I will see what I can do to make him a member agian.

Quote:Nice post SSB. I guess I too would be willing to let Odin back in if he never had admin powers again but lets just see what everyone else has to say.

Quote:Please someone send this to T.C.

Im sorry to say, and excuse if it seems heartless but some of these thing that Odin is saying is so dramatic I cant even read them. He is saying that me and SSB told him to kill him self, we never once stated for him to do that, I would not tell a single human being on the face of the earth to do that, not even if it was the re-incarnation of Satan himself.

I by far am not a heartless person, and take into consideration as to WHY we were even in this debate. He was the one to cast the first stone, we just retaliated. As SSB said, the whole incident is documented so make it what you believe. I do not regret what I have done physically, I do regret what I might have done to scare his mind though.

Odin if it was truly this bad to you, I am humbly sorry to the bottom of my heart and soul, I never meant to cause so much harm to you. I guess I never really stopped and thought. However you can not say whole heartedly that you did not try and do the same amount of damage. It was not just me and SSB who made this such a bad innocent. Although you say you are retired, I do welcome you back to Cypherstation with open arms if you choose to come back. One other thing, if you say its just an error then why did the deletion stop only AFTER I revoked your membership? That seems strange.

One thing I would like to quote that you said.

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all you had to do was say sorry
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I admit, I could have been the bigger man and could have said sorry, but, you also could have been the bigger man and said sorry. One other thing I would like to say, I never said I was going to go have you banned, I did however say that if you abused you powers again I would talk it over with the other admins about having your powers revoked or having you banned.

Just remember, you said as many nasty things as me and SSB said, once again I am sorry for the things I have said. Bah I have compassion, you might not have seen it, but as I said, you cast the first stone, I merle retaliated.

Once again Odin, I am deeply sorry for what I have done to you mind. I welcome you back to Cypherstation if you do so choose. Isn’t it time for you to say your sorry?

Quote:Originally posted by Weltall
Maybe it's just me, but wasn't CS more fun when we always called each other faggots, fuckwads, cocksuckers, bitches, homos, assholes, shiteaters, stumpjumpers, dumbasses, morons, and various other insults of a homosexual and genitalia-based nature?

Quote:Originally posted by Dark Jaguar
Dramatic? It's just a bunch of people trying to stay connected. If someone wrote a book about us, sure there would be a lot, but it would be a book about nothing. Sadly now that I've confirmed such a book would be irredeemable trash it's now gurenteed to be a number 1 seller...

Let's do it!

Quote:ice-9 left and you went to ezboard for a while. That's not drama. I've known like 30 other message boards that had the same fate. The diff is that Weltall started up a new one. Still, not dramatic, but that doesn't change that it was very nice of him, or we would still be in ezHell.

Heck, we already had to hide in ezboard before that. Remember how when ramble was closed everyone headed to ezboard to post at the Lovely Cow forum? Well, not everyone, because word got around slowly and by the time a lot of people had headed there, Ramble was open again. Not drama though. There's really not all that much emotion here. Well, there's "teh funny" .