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3DS and Wii U shops closing down - Dark Jaguar - 16th February 2022
https://www.polygon.com/22937165/nintendo-wii-u-3ds-eshop-closing-date-virtual-console
These are FAR larger stores with far less of a "shovelware to actual games you'd want to play" ratio. This is going to be a major impact, and worse yet with how aggressive Nintendo is about shutting down ROM sites, preserving all that content will prove difficult.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - A Black Falcon - 16th February 2022
Nintendo just removed all Wii U games from their website. I imagine 3DS games will still follow. We all knew this would happen sooner rather than later because Nintendo doesn't care about availability of their older games, only how much profit they are making off of their current system(s), but it's still disgusting to see yet again how little Nintendo cares about important things like the continued availability of their games. And we know they'll stick to this schedule, Nintendo is not responsive to public pressure. Ugh... awful news. Once this shutdown is complete, Nintendo is basically saying "go pirate our games if you want to play them". And Nintendo claims to oppose piracy? Hah.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - Dark Jaguar - 21st February 2022
In the past, Nintendo really did care about availability, especially in Japan. Right up until the early 2000's you could mail in Famicom disks and a few yen to get a copy of whatever FDS game you wanted written to it. Heck I bought things from Nintendo's online store back then and the sheer backlog they kept available was great. I ordered a brand new Nes controller, N64 controller, and Gamecube component cable along with a few copies of some SNES manuals they happened to have lying around. When they ran out of those copies, they'd just send you a scanned and printed version instead which was, well it was SOMETHING at least.
The Earthbound guide was uploaded some time ago, but it's only a matter of time before Nintendo redesigns their sight and just decides to cut it rather than maintain it.
Right now, the very best retro preservers are the fans.
http://www.replacementdocs.com/ for all your scanned PDFs of old game manual needs.
https://www.analogue.co/ provides cycle-accurate reproductions of old consoles.
https://krikzz.com/ provides well designed ROM carts for numerous systems and for certain ones will also provide cycle accurate reproductions of add-on chip functionality.
https://limitedrungames.com/ https://retro-bit.com/ https://castlemaniagames.com/ These three provide (among other things) many authorized reproductions of retro games. Sadly, while even heavy weights like Capcom have authorized repros, Nintendo has never gotten involved with these companies. Shantae (Gameboy) prices are so ridiculous online that I went ahead and bought a repro instead.
https://www.retrorgb.com/ provides very detailed and accurate information for anything you'd care to know about playing those retro games.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjFaPUcJU1vwk193mnW_w1w This channel provides a lot of information but what's notable is the number of videos dedicated to hacking various systems to allow homebrew and, yes, running games without the original media on them. I hesitate to say "piracy" because there are many legitimate reasons why someone might prefer to run games off a memory stick instead of UMDs on the PSP, or simply prefer a reliable way to play backsups of their own games.
However, what option is there when we're talking digital-only? At that point, you either do insane things like buy entire PS4s just because it's got something exclusive like a copy of P.T. downloaded to it, or you just accept that things like money were made up in the first place and digital ownership is kinda an imaginary concept and just... steal it mate.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - Dark Jaguar - 21st February 2022
Warning! I reread Nintendo's announcement. For clarification, the store will prevent purchases outright of any sort in a year's time. However, the real deadline is four months from now. That's when you can't use a credit card any more. Past that, you can still redeem eshop cards, like you can get off Amazon, until August. The deadline next year is for using your remaining eshop balance. Now, I never had balance of any sort accrued on my 3DS because I never needed to. Further, those eshop cards are bound to jump up in price past that date. Effectively, we have four months.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - A Black Falcon - 21st February 2022
(21st February 2022, 11:27 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: Warning! I reread Nintendo's announcement. For clarification, the store will prevent purchases outright of any sort in a year's time. However, the real deadline is four months from now. That's when you can't use a credit card any more. Past that, you can still redeem eshop cards, like you can get off Amazon, until August. The deadline next year is for using your remaining eshop balance. Now, I never had balance of any sort accrued on my 3DS because I never needed to. Further, those eshop cards are bound to jump up in price past that date. Effectively, we have four months.
It is true that they are turning off credit card support in the Wii U / 3DS eshops in August, but I am almost certain that if your Wii U/3DS and Switch accounts are linked, then you will still be able to spend money on the 3DS and Wii U which you add on the Switch. I linked my accounts quite some time ago and so I'm not too worried about this. I mean, it is convenient to be able to add money on the Wii U and 3DS themselves, but there is a totally fine workaround. If your accounts are linked all three systems will report the same balance, and I see no reason to think that that will change.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - Dark Jaguar - 22nd February 2022
(21st February 2022, 6:28 PM)A Black Falcon Wrote:(21st February 2022, 11:27 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: Warning! I reread Nintendo's announcement. For clarification, the store will prevent purchases outright of any sort in a year's time. However, the real deadline is four months from now. That's when you can't use a credit card any more. Past that, you can still redeem eshop cards, like you can get off Amazon, until August. The deadline next year is for using your remaining eshop balance. Now, I never had balance of any sort accrued on my 3DS because I never needed to. Further, those eshop cards are bound to jump up in price past that date. Effectively, we have four months.
It is true that they are turning off credit card support in the Wii U / 3DS eshops in August, but I am almost certain that if your Wii U/3DS and Switch accounts are linked, then you will still be able to spend money on the 3DS and Wii U which you add on the Switch. I linked my accounts quite some time ago and so I'm not too worried about this. I mean, it is convenient to be able to add money on the Wii U and 3DS themselves, but there is a totally fine workaround. If your accounts are linked all three systems will report the same balance, and I see no reason to think that that will change.
If I were you, I'd make the assumption that will be broken in four months. It's the safer bet.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - A Black Falcon - 22nd February 2022
(22nd February 2022, 5:40 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:(21st February 2022, 6:28 PM)A Black Falcon Wrote:(21st February 2022, 11:27 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: Warning! I reread Nintendo's announcement. For clarification, the store will prevent purchases outright of any sort in a year's time. However, the real deadline is four months from now. That's when you can't use a credit card any more. Past that, you can still redeem eshop cards, like you can get off Amazon, until August. The deadline next year is for using your remaining eshop balance. Now, I never had balance of any sort accrued on my 3DS because I never needed to. Further, those eshop cards are bound to jump up in price past that date. Effectively, we have four months.
It is true that they are turning off credit card support in the Wii U / 3DS eshops in August, but I am almost certain that if your Wii U/3DS and Switch accounts are linked, then you will still be able to spend money on the 3DS and Wii U which you add on the Switch. I linked my accounts quite some time ago and so I'm not too worried about this. I mean, it is convenient to be able to add money on the Wii U and 3DS themselves, but there is a totally fine workaround. If your accounts are linked all three systems will report the same balance, and I see no reason to think that that will change.
If I were you, I'd make the assumption that will be broken in four months. It's the safer bet.
"Users who link their Nintendo Network ID wallet (used with Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS family of systems) with their Nintendo Account wallet (used with the Nintendo Switch family of systems) can use the shared balance to purchase content on any of these systems until late March 2023. After that, the balance can only be used to purchase content for the Nintendo Switch family of systems."
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - Dark Jaguar - 22nd February 2022
Fair enough, but you really need to stop giving companies the benefit of the doubt. They will violet it time and time again. I also am not sure if that means funds added before august, or funds added even after that point.
RE: 3DS and Wii U shops closing down - A Black Falcon - 23rd February 2022
I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt, I am believing their words. Yes, their words are bad -- this decision is awful -- but it was clearly written: adding funds on the Wii U and 3DS shuts down in August, after which you can only spend money you add on a linked Switch account. Pretty obnoxious there and yes I probably will try to buy a bunch of stuff before August because it's more convenient to add money on the 3DS or Wii U than it is the Switch (since I almost never use my Switch handheld), but that is the policy.