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New GBA - OB1 - 7th January 2003
... Tinkerbell is from Peter Pan. You're thinking of Navi.
New GBA - lazyfatbum - 7th January 2003
So it cant fit on your lap because it's smaller. Yes, that makes perfect sense.
Come on DJ, you of all people should know what it's like to see something small in your lap.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 7th January 2003
Not sure I get that, but I don't think it would fit ON my lap, because it would fall off. Gravity and curves don't fit.
Anyway, yes I KNOW Tinkerbell is from Peter Pan. She was summoned by me to save Sora's life. Thinking of Navi? Do you know of any Sora in the Zelda games? Nah man, you just haven't played enough Kingdom Hearts to get my rapier wit.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 7th January 2003
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2908150,00.html
With that out of the way, let me comment on it. They have played it hands on. It seems the screen is actually the same screen used in the current GBA, which means that the light is a front light, just like the afterburner. It also seems the front light is just as good, maybe even better, than the afterburner, though it uses 3 more hours of battery life. They report that the shoulder buttons are actually more comfortable than the current GBA's buttons. I find that hard to believe, but I'll wait to see a store demo before I decide.
Oh, and by the way, silver has been renamed platinum according to this http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2908185,00.html , so YES, the platinum color IS available here in America at launch MGL! Cobolt is the blue one. The other two regions get those two colors as well, but they also get one more color, the black one. Why they won't release the black one in America as well (it could match my cube) is a mystery, but oh well I want the silver one.
One thing they said is that the volume control is now a slide bar. This might be troublesome since it's on the left side, and I MAY just accidently hit it during intense play. However, if they recessed it enough like the power switch, that won't be a problem.
New GBA - MgL - 7th January 2003
I don't know what the hell you read Dark Jaguar, but I basically said that Nintendo sucks for not releasing black and instead going with Cobalt and Platnium. Maybe I confused myself, but I thought Cobalt looked sliverish blue. I guess its that GCN purple color... Either way both choices suck. :p Btw, hey Lazy you ugly pig. ;)
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 7th January 2003
I thought you were upset they weren't releasing platinum, it seemed that way the way you said it I suppose. I was then just correcting you saying they were in fact releasing platinum. Oh, and no, cobolt isn't indigo (that's what purplish blue is, it's on the rainbow man, look outside after the next rain, it's the one next to violet), it's that metallic blue. I guess you don't like metallic blue, but apparently certain gun makers do, so whatever. Upset black ain't coming here? Well, I can see that, but I thought that silver was the color of choice!
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 8th January 2003
Yet another time I wish I actually saw screenshots on Gamespot's site, and not lots of red X'es... but no luck. Its been this way for a long time now (and on any web browser too so its not that).
Anyway, Yes, I wish they released all the colors here... it is annoying to only have some of them. Oh well...
As for the system, it does look very strange and I don't know how comfterble it is... but it does look, overall, a little better than the standard GBA. The Start/Select buttons are, once again, in the middle of the controller. Very nice... I always disliked their position on the GBA... Oh, and it looks a little more like the GB/GBC layout now... vertical, not horizontal. Nothing wrong with that, just interesting that they're changing it back, albeit in a strange, flip-top form.
And as for the color of choice, I always liked the clear ones best... I like my clear purple N64 controllers and GBC...
New GBA - MgL - 8th January 2003
Ah so I was right... Anyway one of the things I was trying to say earlier is that I don't understand why they would release both cobalt and platnium here. They are like a shade apart from being different. I don't get it. Btw, it isn't that I don't like cobalt bue or platnium, but I rather see colors like red, black, and something like this...
![[Image: gba_do2.jpg]](http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ua4s-njm/gb_hard/gba_do2.jpg)
Btw check this page to see all the models released so far...
http://gba.w.free.fr/technique/coloris/
Japan gets everything... not that I care since I wouldn't pay $25 for gameboy games, but just for pointing it out... ;)
Edit: Black Falcon do you use a pop-up/ad stopper or have you edited your HOSTS file? That probably is the problem.
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 8th January 2003
popup/ad stopper? Yeah, I do now. Its called Netscape 7... and its built-in popup killer. However, the problem exists in IE with no popup killer as well. (referring to Gamespot's images all being broken links I imagine)
HOSTS file? Whats that?
New GBA - WhiteFleck - 8th January 2003
Beats me.
When Gamespot says it's as comfortable as a GBC, is that supposed to be a good thing? Maybe I have a giant's hands, but the GC controller feels good, but the GBC does not. It's not very ergonomic. Advance at least leaves room for the other six fingers.
New GBA - OB1 - 8th January 2003
MGL: You know, there are plenty of terrific original GBA games out there. The two Castlevania games, Ogre Battle, Advance Wars, Mario Kart, Sonic Advance, etc.
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 8th January 2003
All of those games are, while new, sequels to old 16-bit (and older) serieses... new, but not completely so. Very similar titles in the same serieses (except Advance Wars) are available on the SNES/Genesis...
New GBA - OB1 - 8th January 2003
So what? Is Metroid Fusion (my favorite GBA, which I also forgot to list in the above post--d'oh) not counted as a brand-new game just because it's a sequel? And the GBA Castlevania games are more like the PSX Castlevania game than the SNES one.
New GBA - MgL - 8th January 2003
Black Falcon: The Netscape browser might have changed your HOSTS file. Im not some computer wiz so I can't tell you what it is exactly, but it is this file located on computers which can block certain sites such as sites in ads. I learned about it from a Kazaalite's website which actually has a file that you can download to replace your current HOSTS file so that sites could be blocked. You can fix the problem by finding the file and removing the line that blocks images through notepad, but I don't remeber what address GS uses.
OB1: Yeah, I know there are some great stuff, but I don't like the prices for those games. I would always be asking myself why the hell I would want to spend $30 for a GBA game when I could get 1 or 2 DVDs (Miike mind you... ;)), a PS2 game, a GC game, or an Xbox game. Btw, I don't know how many people can afford one at launch when they are getting... ZELDA!
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 8th January 2003
Woah! I just realized something, when someone pointed it out to me actually :D.
Kirby Tilt & Tumble's controls will be reversed on this new system! Oh horrors, one game in like a schamillion. However, it is indeed a "problem". Maybe Nintendo could set up the system to recognize this game and in a gameshark type way, correct the controls. Of course, that would be a bit of work for a single game, so they might just not do it. I myself am set anyway, since I still have my GBC.
New GBA - OB1 - 8th January 2003
Quote:Originally posted by MgL
OB1: Yeah, I know there are some great stuff, but I don't like the prices for those games. I would always be asking myself why the hell I would want to spend $30 for a GBA game when I could get 1 or 2 DVDs (Miike mind you... ;)), a PS2 game, a GC game, or an Xbox game. Btw, I don't know how many people can afford one at launch when they are getting... ZELDA!
So just because they don't have the fancy graphics of the PS2, GC, and X-Box games means that they're not worth $30? Considering how many shitty console games there are that cost $50, I think $30 per GBA game is pretty damn good. I played Advance Wars more than any PS2 or X-Box game this year (aside from Morrowind, that is. That game never ends!), and it was "just" a GBA game.
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 8th January 2003
I always remember thinking "Wow! GB games are just $30! That's $20 less than most new games!". Its still true. Complaining about playing $30 for new games is just silly... do you complain about new NGC/PS2/X-Box games being $50? Or do you just get bargain bin games or somthing?
I mean, the fact that many are ports or 16-bit game sequels in no way impacts the fact that all the games mentioned here are very, very good and WELL worth at least $30. Just like any other new games... but cheaper... honestly, I don't see the problem here.
Well, then you may ask why I don't have a GBA. The answer? I spend too much money on PC and NGC games as it is... like recently. After christmas I spent over $150 on new games... (if you couldnt guess, I'm now broke and, due to having no income, will be broke until summer... at least I saved enough to be able to get Zelda. If nothing else...*is sad for not being able to get F-Zero or Skies of Arcadia anytime soon*) I could have got a GBA, but would rather get more new games for the systems... especially on my very limited funds.
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Hey I have some good news from PGC. Billy tried out the system today and he says that it's actually more comfortable than the regular GBA. Also, the front light is a lot better than the afterburner, as there is no blue tint and the lights come from all four sides of the screen, rather than just the top and bottom as it is with the AB. That's a huge relief for me. You can also play the system while the battery is recharging.
Oh and I was right, DJ. The new system is targeted towards older people (and more casual gamers), hence the less "toy-like" design. :D
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
I'm not sure why you directed that to me there OB1, but to be honest I can't see how the old model looks more or less like a toy than the current one.
In any case, the afterburner's light only comes from one side, just the bottom.
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Well Nintendo obviously agrees with me since they made the GBA-SP look more like a gadget than a toy, so that it can appeal to an older audience.
The AB's light only comes from the bottom? Huh, no wonder the lighting looked so uneven. Craig from ign pocket mentioned that while the GBA-SP's light is far better than the AB, it still doesn't beat real sunlight or a flourescent lightbulb, and that there is still a very subtle blue tint (although not as much as there is with the AB). That's a bit discouraging as my Floodlight illuminates my GBA just as well as any flourescent lightbulb.
New GBA - Laser Link - 9th January 2003
OB1 you haven't ever seen an Afterburner in action, have you? You always talk about the blue tint like it destroys the game completely, but I've never seen it. Ever. And while Billy said the new GBA's screen was better than a screen with an Afterburner (and it better be, since this is first party), he said there wasn't a huge difference and you probably wouldn't want to bother getting a new GBA if you already had one with a working Afterburner.
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Yes I've seen a GBA with an afterburner. One of my brother's friends got one not too long ago, and he showed it to me last month. It was pretty good, but I did notice a slight blue tint. But I'm pretty sensitive to that sort of thing, so most people probably won't be bothered by it. My floodlight does do a better job at illuminating, although it make the GBA less portable. And I never suggested that the blue tint destroys the games. It just kind of annoys me. Just a bit.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
OB1 is an admitted videophile. There's nothing WRONG with that mind you, but as an example, he actually can see a, as he puts it "HUGE difference in quality" using A/V over RF, with the NES. So, in other words, although he'd be great for finding specks of dust on a TV, he's not the best for rating what you and me would see. I too have never noticed a blueing problem, ever, with my afterburner, and I also see a very even lighting across the whole screen. However, those at IGN (the frame rate specialists) and OB1 DO see these things.
You see the thing is OB1, if I can't see how the compact style makes it more mature, I can't see the logic behind you saying they agree with you obviously because they switched it to clam style. Now if they actually SAID that, that's different. I figure NOA would say something like that anyway though.
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Well I don't know about NES games, but I can tell the difference between RF and composite. It's not that amazing. I think the difference it pretty big.
And according to PGC, Nintendo plans on targeting the new GBA towards an older and more casual audience.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
No not composite OB1, composite is the seperation of the video signal into red, green, and blue cables, for the red/green/blue individual picture build up. I'm talking RF and A/V, which is simply seperating the audio channels from the video channel. If you misunderstood me and assumed I was saying I can't tell the difference between RF and composite, then I think perhaps this should be resolved. So, were you really saying you can tell a huge difference in quality between A/V and RF, or did you mean Composite and RF?
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 9th January 2003
RF and A/V (the 3 cables kind) look exactly the same to me...
As for 'maturity', I'd say the new one does look like its aimed at a slightly older market... it definitely looks less like a toy and more like other small electronics...
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Quote:Originally posted by Dark Jaguar
No not composite OB1, composite is the seperation of the video signal into red, green, and blue cables, for the red/green/blue individual picture build up. I'm talking RF and A/V, which is simply seperating the audio channels from the video channel. If you misunderstood me and assumed I was saying I can't tell the difference between RF and composite, then I think perhaps this should be resolved. So, were you really saying you can tell a huge difference in quality between A/V and RF, or did you mean Composite and RF?
No you're thinking of component cables. I was referring to RCA composite cables, which are the ones that come standard with all video game systems.
These are RCA composite cables:
![[Image: VC-25Vs.jpg]](http://www.rogerssystems.com/store/images/VC-25Vs.jpg)
This is the next best thing, S-Video:
![[Image: SV3AV4_glam_bkrnd.jpg]](http://monstercables.com/images_db/home_av/video/SV3AV4_glam_bkrnd.jpg)
And the best of them all, component video cables:
![[Image: adc2204p.jpg]](http://www.audio2000s.com/products/accessories/cables/adc2204p.jpg)
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
Looking at ign's new videos of the SP in the dark with the light on, the blue tint is very noticable. I hope it doesn't look that bad in person.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
Ah, I see, composnent. Oh, and I am fully aware of all those. By the way, the best of all is actually moniter style hookup, which is actually what the Japanese Cube uses (I'm sure to get the name of it wrong, but it's pretty nice), but since compoNENT cables are more popular on US TVs (in fact, almost no US TVs use the moniter style hookup, while in Japan it's the other way around), they made a hardware change to the GCN.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
Just watched the video, but I have to say, it's hard to really argue anything when those areas were loaded with blue anyway. Black still looks black, and the white stuff still looked white, so I can't really see any blue tinting of everything.
New GBA - OB1 - 9th January 2003
That Kirby stuff didn't have any blue in it. I thought it was very noticable. Funny, huh?
And are you referring to Scart cables?
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
I might be. Like I said though, I am ignorant of what they are actually CALLED.
In any case, I just read some very disturbing news. The rechargeble battery is NOT CHANGABLE! That's a very bad move on Nintendo's part. This system isn't out yet, so they COULD change this, but I really REALLY think they need to make the battery removable by us, the user, and sell seperate batteries. This way, I can have a battery on a charger and still be playing, like what I'm doing with my GBA. I'd hate to run a battery dead and then have to wait 3 hours before being able to take it out again.
New GBA - The Former DMiller - 9th January 2003
Word on the street is you can play the GBA SP while it is charging. Good news for all those Jaguars out there.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 9th January 2003
Yes, but NOT on the go. I can play my own GBA now while the rechargebles I got are recharging, but that's not my concern here. My prob is that if the one battery is dead, I can't take it with me and play it ON THE GO for 3 hours. With how much I've been taking it around, that actually does provide a problem.
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 10th January 2003
Newer TVs generally just have the standard 3-channel red/white/yellow composite cable connectors... better than RF, but not as good as S-Video or component (component is the really high end one, right?).
Of course I'm here on a TV probably older than I am (really!), so I'm playing NGC via the composite connectors on the VCR, and the TV's mono sound. The only annoying part is how the TV cuts off the edges of the screen picture... oh well. The TV still works and is pretty big so its OK.
Does 'play while charging' mean it would work like the old Official Nintendo GB Rechargable Battery Pack? You know, the one that had a plug from the GB to a box, which was the batterypack.... and you could plug the batterypack into the wall so it'd run off wall power (and charge too, I imagine).
New GBA - OB1 - 10th January 2003
I believe it works like a cell phone.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 10th January 2003
Yeah, and with that in mind, the battery should be just as removable as a cell phone, like I already complained about.
New GBA - OB1 - 10th January 2003
Indeed.
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 10th January 2003
You know, it kinda sucks that the duel purpose port is covered when the GCN link is being used. I mean, it's very likely that an unofficial GCN link cable will come out that removes the totally unneeded parts of it, for a simple plug in like with a GBA to GBA link cable, but it's still annoying that the official one does that cover up job. Well, it also sucks that you can't use both headphones and the power port at once for that matter. Then again, Nintendo can do two things.
For the first problem, they just need to change their official GCN to GBA cord so that it doesn't take up all that space. For the second problem, they just need to set up the head set adapter, whenever that comes out, so that it splits up into both the headphone adapter part, and a passthrough so that one can then plug in the recharge cord as well. Nintendo should do both. I never saw the point of the GCN/GBA cable taking up that much room just to be able to securly click in anyway, since the standard cable is held in place plenty well enough.
New GBA - A Black Falcon - 10th January 2003
Charges like a cell phone? How is that? I don't know how cellphones charge...
One thing I just noticed. The games go in a slot in the bottom of the controller. I can't imagine how you could fit a GB/GBC cart in there and still have room for your hands... it will stick out downwards quite a ways! Until I see how hands could fit with a GB/C cart, it looks like that won't work as well, maybe...
New GBA - Dark Jaguar - 10th January 2003
Um... I don't know about you, but my hands don't curve down and around the bottom of my GB and GBC, or any other controller for that matter. No, they stay safely on the sides. You may hold controllers differently, but if held the "normal" way, I can't see how a game sticking out, even 100 trillion meters out, would ever cause a problem holding it. Of course, sticking out as far as my example WOULD impale someone's chest long before they could hold it, but that's another matter entirely.
New GBA - OB1 - 13th January 2003
How to cell phones charge? Well they just charge when they're plugged into an electrical socket. You can use them while they charge.