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RIP PS3 (in the US)? - A Black Falcon - 9th December 2010
November 2010 hardware sales
DS - 1.5 million
X360 - 1.37 million
Wii - 1.27 million
PS3 - 530k
PSP - ?? (but it's got to be a small number)
.... Yeah, that's pretty bad for Sony to say the least...
Oh, as for the top 10 games...
Quote:01. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, PC, NDS) ACTIVISION BLIZZARD ** - 8.4 Millionhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415414
02. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (360, PS3) UBISOFT ** - 1.14 Million
03. Just Dance 2 (Wii) UBISOFT
04. Madden NFL 11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) ELECTRONIC ARTS
05. Fable III (360) MICROSOFT**
06. Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii) NINTENDO - 430.5K
07. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (PS3, 360, Wii, PC) ELECTRONIC ARTS
08. Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) SONY** - 400K
09. NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP,PC) TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
10. Wii Fit Plus (Wii) NINTENDO**
Dance Central for Kinect was #11, evidently. GAF is having a meltdown about how badly GT5 and the PS3 sold... :D I'm just happy to see DKCR on the list though, it deserves it.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - EdenMaster - 9th December 2010
Saying RIP PS3 implies the system had a life at all. It's always been the bastard child of this generation.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - A Black Falcon - 9th December 2010
Oh I know it's always been in last, but losing by 750,000-850,000 systems in November is a pretty pathetic showing, and anyone who hoped that Sony might catch up with MS in North America... well, they won't. But yeah, I agree that the title is a bit overstated. I liked it anyway. :)
In Europe the PS3's probably beating the 360, because for three generations now Europe has loved Sony more than anything (though overall European numbers are often hard to come by), and of course dominate Microsoft in Japan, but losing this badly in the US is a big blow to their hopes for catching up to MS worldwide, too.
"RIP to any chances of the PS3 catching up to the 360", then, to be more complete.
Oh yeah, and it's interesting how the DS is still selling so, so well, considering how soon the 3DS will be here...
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - Great Rumbler - 9th December 2010
The Wii's still selling well, if only it had some good games/good control scheme. le sigh.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - A Black Falcon - 9th December 2010
Uh, what, where are people saying that? Because I thought people agreed that the Wii actually had some really good games this year.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - Great Rumbler - 9th December 2010
There's a few, probably more than either of the past two years at least. Not really saying much though.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - lazyfatbum - 10th December 2010
The real winner this generation has been sequels and remakes (not counting first party from either front). Sony's bizarre failures stem completely from the over priced hardware and the virtual lack of truly exclusive software. A price cut (150 without Move) would do wonders for the system, a heavy integration in to the PSPhone and social gaming with strong (small, quirky) exlusives will vault the system with 3/4 huge releases a year that fall in to sports, FPS and action. But just like the film industry, the game industry is suffering a bad case of uninspired shit. 3-D gaming on 3-D capable televisions would be amazing but the tech is just taking hold on the market and is still a few years off.
When the time is right, a "PS3-D" with two 3-D glasses, 3-D blu-ray demo of games/film clips and Move for 250 and a year of Netflix's proposed streaming 3-D movies will create a home entertainment system everyone will want. What will hurt Sony is that Microsoft will probably do it first without blu-ray. Nintendo is going to test that market with 3DS and streaming 3-D movies/apps and gaming. Now if they could just get it in to the living room.
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - A Black Falcon - 11th December 2010
Yeah, Sony badly, badly needs a big price drop. It won't save them from finishing third, that finish is definite I would say, but it'd help a lot, those November sales are pretty bad in comparison.
Quote:But just like the film industry, the game industry is suffering a bad case of uninspired shit.
Very true. Games are quite expensive to make now, so companies are extremely risk-averse, which means more and more sequels and franchise titles, and fewer and fewer new ideas. New ideas and new IPs are dangerous, less likely to succeed and make your money back, and when you're spending that much, you don't want to do that...
[QUOTE]3-D gaming on 3-D capable televisions would be amazing but the tech is just taking hold on the market and is still a few years off.
The problem with TV 3-D is that it needs glasses. Sure, it looks cool, but you need to be wearing glasses to see it... 3d TVs that don't need glasses will really help. Of course, right now you can only do no-glasses 3d on a small screen, which is why the 3DS will be just about the first thing with it...
RIP PS3 (in the US)? - Dark Jaguar - 12th December 2010
Nobody cares about getting 3D TVs. They're doing pretty badly. To most people, they're finally getting an HDTV and now they're being told it's obsolete?
There's also the matter of 3D still feeling too "gimicky". There's those goggles, which are incompatible between manufacturers, are uncomfortable and expensive, and "make you look like a dork". There's also the number of "3D" movies with terrible 3D, the "cardboard cutout" style where it feels more like a diarama than actual 3D (the people may appear "in front" of the background, but the background still looks flat and the people still look flat, like a cardboard cutout in front of a painted set). There's a few with good 3D, but too many where it's just a gimic. Further, the quality of the image often suffers with different models. Sony can't include 3D glasses with their system for the simple reason that they will only work on Sony's TVs, and as much as Sony may WANT to do that, it'd be a dumb move considering the sheer number of complaints from customers upset that their TVs aren't 3D (and many will come from people who thought that the goggles were supposed to make their old 1980's TV into a 3D set).
The Move included with the PS3? That's a good start. That's not enough to turn things around though. At this point, I've seen enough generations go by that it seems that whatever lead a company gets in the first year or so is pretty much exactly what'll be kept the whole generation.
That said, the PS3 isn't dead. It's just doing poorly compared to the others. I've got one, and to keep things in perspective, it may be getting largely ports, but people ARE buying those ports, just not in the same numbers as the 360 ports. This is hardly 3D0 or Saturn territory. The system is still sitting on shelves and still has big sections dedicated to their games in stores.
Is it doing very well? Nah, not by a long shot. It's partly Sony's own fault too. I've complained about a number of their boneheaded customer relations decisions.