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Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 22nd April 2010
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Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - EdenMaster - 22nd April 2010
Those people are all nuts.
And it's Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 22nd April 2010
According to U.S. law enforcement officials, the federal government rarely prosecutes threat cases. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives broad protections to free speech, and what constitutes a threat is often subject to interpretation.
So the constitution grants Muslims the right to threaten people for speaking their minds, and THAT'S free speech? But, saying MUHAMMAD isn't protected?
This is stupid! Is the entire free, rational world really going to let this happen? Crazy extremist Muslims tell the WORLD what we can say and not say, and because theyre crazy amd might try to kill people, we all just obey them? ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS??
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 22nd April 2010
Trey and Matt should go through with it , If comedy central wont air it, They should release the censored scenes online.
T & M are not doing this for the sake of insulting and offending the Muslims, Their doing it because they believe on principal that no person or belief should be immune from criticism and satire.
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Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - lazyfatbum - 22nd April 2010
A bear costume xD
Jesus watching porn is hilarious because of the weird sexual background behind the church, catholics, etc. But Buddha snorting cocaine? shouldn't it be opium? I guess that was Britain's fault ultimately, but still.
In the western world we find it acceptable to say that someone will burn in hell, that by doing things that are wrong you are sent to fiery damnation. It's pretty extreme and ridiculous, sure. But it's a timeless tradition. In the muslim world if you do things that are deemed wrong they execute you, cut off limbs, decapitate, etc and to them it's timeless tradition but to the rest of the world it's lunacy.
Artists, speakers, anyone should have protection from threats. If I threatened to kill Ryan because he didn't read my script with emails that described how someone was killed because they didn't read a script that would easily hold up in court and I would be punished, ordered to have no contact with Ryan and possibly even receive jail time for my death threat.
The only reason there is no action taking place is because the western world is trying to be sensitive towards the muslims and trying to avoid conflict. It's pathetic. We need to get some balls.
i have muslim friends and they dont threaten to cut off people's heads or act ridiculous, so it's just religious zealots causing the issues.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 22nd April 2010
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The sick fucks posted Stone and Parkers home and work address, Yet "revolutionMuslim.com continue to deny that "they were threatening them".
M&T should pursue them in court.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Dark Jaguar - 22nd April 2010
Darunia, no it's perfectly legal to display Muhamed. It's not the government or the FCC that restricted it, it's the company these guys work for. That's all there is to it. Private companies can restrict their employee's speech all they want, they just can't sue them should they violate it (just fire them).
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - lazyfatbum - 22nd April 2010
Fuck it, this thread is now about pissing off muslims!
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - etoven - 22nd April 2010
alien space marine Wrote:linkThe thing I don't understand is the fact of why are we talking about this now? Comedy central censored this episode because of Muslims last year, I know because I was watching! Why are all the news stations just now talking about it?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 22nd April 2010
etoven Wrote:The thing I don't understand is the fact of why are we talking about this now? Comedy central censored this episode because of Muslims last year, I know because I was watching! Why are all the news stations just now talking about it?
Stone and Parker , 200th & 201 episode special two parter had involved Mohamed again in the plot.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Unreadphilosophy - 22nd April 2010
Lazy: If we were in the Middle-East, your head would be in front of an executioner at this very moment.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - lazyfatbum - 22nd April 2010
Unreadphilosophy Wrote:Lazy: If we were in the Middle-East, your head would be in front of an executioner at this very moment.
Which is exactly why it's ridiculous.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 2nd May 2010
I hereby distance myself from Lazy and disavow any knowledge of his person.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - EdenMaster - 2nd May 2010
Darunia Wrote:I hereby distance myself from Lazy and disavow any knowledge of his person.
When have you ever done anything BUT distance yourself from lazy? I thought you already had your own personal fatwa against him.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Dark Jaguar - 2nd May 2010
Assassination attempts should be nothing new to you Darunia, at least as you percieve them. Mostly it's just us not looking where we're stepping.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Weltall - 2nd May 2010
Darunia cares nothing for methods as subtle as assassination. If you wage total war against an enemy's country, odds are you'll end up killing the target anyway, and you'll have so much more fun in the process.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - lazyfatbum - 5th May 2010
....What the fuck is a fatwa?
Did you just say Dar has a fat twat? is that, what, Canadian? I dont even.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Dark Jaguar - 28th May 2010
So did these guys ever play Earthbound?
I ask because I've basically decided that Pokey Minch is Cartman.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Geno - 11th June 2010
Darunia Wrote:According to U.S. law enforcement officials, the federal government rarely prosecutes threat cases. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives broad protections to free speech, and what constitutes a threat is often subject to interpretation.This so much.
So the constitution grants Muslims the right to threaten people for speaking their minds, and THAT'S free speech? But, saying MUHAMMAD isn't protected?
This is stupid! Is the entire free, rational world really going to let this happen? Crazy extremist Muslims tell the WORLD what we can say and not say, and because theyre crazy amd might try to kill people, we all just obey them? ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS??
And now the 200th and 201st episodes of South Park are banned both on television and on SouthParkStudios.com (which legally streams every episode; the old 2001, pre-9/11 episode The Super Best Friends, which depicted Muhammad back when it was still okay, has also been removed from the site). This is just ridiculous. Luckily, I have Season 5 on DVD and so I can see The Super Best Friends anytime I want, but I wonder if 200 and 201 will be included on the Season 14 DVD set next year. I was hoping Muhammad would appear uncensored on the Season 10 box in the episode Cartoon Wars Part II (originally aired in 2006, right after the Danish Muhammad cartoon controversy), but it was released exactly as it had aired on television, with the scene of Muhammad edited out.
Fuck sensitivity to the Islamic community. If they can portray Jesus defecating on the American flag, then why can't they show Muhammad giving a South Park caricature of Family Guy's Peter Griffin a salmon helmet? They can portray Jesus being stabbed in the neck and shooting arterial spray everywhere (in fact, that was the second time he had been brutally murdered on the show, third time if you count the crucifixion scenes from The Passion of the Christ), but now they can't even say Muhammad's name? If Christians began threatening the show with violence, would Comedy Central cave in like this? If Jews started threatening to blow us up unless we stopped eating pork, would grocery stores start pulling all their pork, bacon, ham, etc. off the shelves? Fuck this shit. Here's a naked Lego Muhammad fucking a six-year-old:
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Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 11th June 2010
SERIOUSLY! They censored it? I also have the fifth season, and I watch that episode from time to time... it's a good one... but this is INFURIATING! Are we REALLY letting insane right-wing Muslims dictate to US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT SAY AT HOME IN OUR COUNTRY? I really don't think there's nearly enough outrage about this! If Obama wants my support, let's see him GROW A PAIR OF BALLS and take a STANCE ON THIS!
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 11th June 2010
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Showtime actually caved into the Catholics on this, This episode of Penn and Tellers bullshit was aired and then never aired again and it was removed entirely from the dvd release, Thanks to whinny Catholics.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Dark Jaguar - 11th June 2010
Again, I have to make this clear. This is cowardice, yes, but it's cowardice of the owners of the web site and the network. No government agency is banning anything. I just want to make that clear. It's still perfectly legal to show these depictions.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 11th June 2010
No shit DJ. That doesn't mean that O'Bama can't take a stance on what is a huge issue. But then again, he probably agrees with the Muslims on it. That a corporation, network, or anything is caving in to pressure from abroad, under implied THREAT OF VIOLENCE... oh man... a
I had no idea that Penn and Teller were atheists. Their stock just skyrocketed in my book.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 11th June 2010
Darunia Wrote:No shit DJ. That doesn't mean that O'Bama can't take a stance on what is a huge issue. But then again, he probably agrees with the Muslims on it. That a corporation, network, or anything is caving in to pressure from abroad, under implied THREAT OF VIOLENCE... oh man... a
I had no idea that Penn and Teller were atheists. Their stock just skyrocketed in my book.
I actually met Penn Jillette in person, I was kid at the time and he was doing magic tricks onstage at universal studios and he picked me from the crowd as a volunteer, His career was not noteworthy at that time.
That being said , He is a Uber atheist and I tend to agree with his views 95% of the time, The 5% I disagree on is his opinion that "I can't fucking read".
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Weltall - 11th June 2010
Is an über-atheist someone who actually proved that existence is a stupid accident?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - A Black Falcon - 11th June 2010
Quote:This so much.
And now the 200th and 201st episodes of South Park are banned both on television and on SouthParkStudios.com (which legally streams every episode; the old 2001, pre-9/11 episode The Super Best Friends, which depicted Muhammad back when it was still okay, has also been removed from the site). This is just ridiculous. Luckily, I have Season 5 on DVD and so I can see The Super Best Friends anytime I want, but I wonder if 200 and 201 will be included on the Season 14 DVD set next year. I was hoping Muhammad would appear uncensored on the Season 10 box in the episode Cartoon Wars Part II (originally aired in 2006, right after the Danish Muhammad cartoon controversy), but it was released exactly as it had aired on television, with the scene of Muhammad edited out.
Fuck sensitivity to the Islamic community. If they can portray Jesus defecating on the American flag, then why can't they show Muhammad giving a South Park caricature of Family Guy's Peter Griffin a salmon helmet? They can portray Jesus being stabbed in the neck and shooting arterial spray everywhere (in fact, that was the second time he had been brutally murdered on the show, third time if you count the crucifixion scenes from The Passion of the Christ), but now they can't even say Muhammad's name? If Christians began threatening the show with violence, would Comedy Central cave in like this? If Jews started threatening to blow us up unless we stopped eating pork, would grocery stores start pulling all their pork, bacon, ham, etc. off the shelves? Fuck this shit. Here's a naked Lego Muhammad fucking a six-year-old:
Because Islam never had a Reformation or an Enlightenment, and is still stuck in the Middle Ages. Belief in concepts such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, that people have inalienable rights, separation of church and state, and much more is rare in Islam, particularly in extremist Islam, and the extremist branch is very, very strong. They do not believe in many of our most fundamental values, and as a result there is a massive culture clash, as should be expected.
Some bits of democracy are starting to spread more in the Middle East, and some Islamic countries are more progressive than others (the Arab ones are the worst, in general), but overall Islam is a very conservative religion which has resisted change.
Antagonizing such people isn't great, but giving in isn't right either -- we should not surrender our rights just because other people don't believe that such rights should exist. They are wrong, and we should say so and stick with what we believe...
Problem is, of course, they are also sometimes violent... So what should we do? It can be tough. But yes, I do not support just giving in. That does not help anything, really.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 12th June 2010
We do as we always have done. We will exercise OUR rights and our beliefs in OUR countries. And we will leave them to do as they wish in theirs. And if they can't leave it at that, and they feel compelled to attack us as pariahs and infidels, well, we'll occupy their country for 10 years and stage a bloody and endless war to protect ourselves and our beliefs from foreign attack.
True story.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Dark Jaguar - 12th June 2010
The problem is that standing for what we believe in is considered, by them, directly antagonistic. That just means the standard of "thinking about how they see it" should be thrown out. If they continue their attacks, so be it. Try to prevent them, but in the end, just accept that sometimes the price of freedom is idiots killing people over it. The network heads aren't willing to risk their lives for what they do, but that's to be expected considering today's television. I mean, have you SEEN it? It's full of cowards propped up as "just being smart" these days.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 12th June 2010
We need a second Enlightenment here in the West.
And the Middle East needs its first.
Fuck religion.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 12th June 2010
A Black Falcon Wrote:Because Islam never had a Reformation or an Enlightenment, and is still stuck in the Middle Ages. Belief in concepts such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, that people have inalienable rights, separation of church and state, and much more is rare in Islam, particularly in extremist Islam, and the extremist branch is very, very strong. They do not believe in many of our most fundamental values, and as a result there is a massive culture clash, as should be expected.
Some bits of democracy are starting to spread more in the Middle East, and some Islamic countries are more progressive than others (the Arab ones are the worst, in general), but overall Islam is a very conservative religion which has resisted change.
Antagonizing such people isn't great, but giving in isn't right either -- we should not surrender our rights just because other people don't believe that such rights should exist. They are wrong, and we should say so and stick with what we believe...
Problem is, of course, they are also sometimes violent... So what should we do? It can be tough. But yes, I do not support just giving in. That does not help anything, really.
Secularism emerged as a means to keep the peace in religious divided nations and prevent one group from trying to dominate the other.
When you have a almost monolithic highly conservative populous being uniformly Sunni Muslim there inst gonna be enough friction within the populous to start a firestorm to cause radical change.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 12th June 2010
What about the Sunni and Shiites in Iraq?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 13th June 2010
Darunia Wrote:What about the Sunni and Shiites in Iraq?
That's actually one case were secularism kept a country from imploding, Is it no coincidence that as soon as the secular baathist were tossed out the country has erupted into sectarian violence.
Secular law was imposed by the British on Iraq after ww1, Saddam choose to maintain it since he knew full well that there would be a big clash over "Who is and isn't a true Muslim" and it would lead to a civil war where the odds were tremendously tipped against him, Saddam Encourage secularism and pan-Arabian nationalism to counter the tribal and sectarian divide in his country..
Now George Bush fucked it up with the new "iraq" becoming a "Islamic state" in its constitution.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 13th June 2010
Is there anything you're not an expert on, ASM?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 13th June 2010
Darunia Wrote:Is there anything you're not an expert on, ASM?
Well, Grammar and syntax :o ....
lets test everyone's knowledge in a little historical trivia, I give a date and a clue , You fill in the rest.
Its china in the year 755 AD and a 3rd of the world's population is about to die...What is this conflict known in history?
Its the year 1204 AD What illustrious city in Europe was betrayed by its co-religious in the most vile manner that forever shattered a empire... What city was it and who were the bastards who did it?
1453 AD, The last vestige of a mighty empire that spanned a thousands years is snuffed out in a final battle by the onslaught of a new rising giant... What is its modern nick name and what did this civilization actually consider itself to be?
1492 AD Christopher Columbus has sailed across the Atlantic in search of a new passage to the east orient, What island did he land on and what two countries reside on it today?
1649 AD: A King has just lost his head and he is no frenchmen. What Kingdom and what King?
1755 French colonials have been expelled from whats now the canadian provinces of new Brunswick and Nova Scotia, Who were they?
Its the 1930's AD, Who accidentally got his fathers diary signed and autographed by the Fuhrer ? Here is a clue from this video
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Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - A Black Falcon - 13th June 2010
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 13th June 2010
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 14th June 2010
Yeah, get rid of religion, things would be so much better off! I mean, anti-religious states such as Communist Russia or Communist China (among others) sure show us a better path... ... Yeah, no. Governments can be good or bad regardless of whether they believe in religion or not.
Ohh---I see your logic. If a bad country is officially atheist, then all countries that are atheist are bad! You're so mookish, you make mooks like like non-mooks. There is no logic in your argument. Those countries suck because they're communist and anti-western. You can have a non-communist, non-anti-western atheist country, where logic and reason take priority over superstition. Just because there isn't one now is not evidence that they cannot exist. If society, if humanity would pull their fucking heads out of their asses and wake up to the reality all around them, and stop seeing invisible fairies in the sky, to which they pray in false hope of a magical immortality in la-la-land, we could all work towards a REAL destiny, one that we can control. I mean come on, this is the 21st century goddamnit. HOW MANY TIMES does your god have to be disproven before you wake the fuck up? "Oh waa I have faith blah blah you can't disprove it blah blah"... I can't disprove leprechauns either but if you use your fucking BRAIN you may realize that neither one is REASONABLE TO BELIEVE IN.
Religion IS, always HAS BEEN and always WILL BE A CRUTCH. Every ancient society fashioned these CRUTCHES because man cannot deal with his own mortality--so he gets around it. Every society created their own crutches... we have Abrahamic crutches that kill each other, and we have Buddhists crutches that meditate... and we have jungle crutches that sacrifice people to their deities... but they're all CRUTCHES and they're all BULLSHIT.
That is to say, religion itself is not the problem. It's how it is used and how it is applied. Human civilizations have had religion for many thousands of years for good reasons,
Religion evolved because a humanity without hope for salvation, UNABLE TO DEAL WITH MORTALITY, faced with the (true) ultimate oblivion that we all faced, would probably not stand. PERHAPS these crutches, these barriers, these religions were important enough to ancient people that we needed them to get by... but if we STILL DO IN THIS TIME AND AGE... well then shit, we're a failed strain, we human scum.
This is not a good enough reason to live in darkness. Religion is the means to the end. Without it, at least in a more primitive time, humanity, I feel, would not have been able to carry on. Some people need that warm fuzziness of a friendly deity in the clouds. Other people have brains. Both work fine for ya, but I take the latter.
they help bind societies together among other things... religion isn't bad or something.
Yes it is. It's false. It's anti-science. It retards society and advancement.
Moderate religion, I would say, is almost entirely good (though of course, I did go to UU church all the way until I was 18, and like it the whole time, so I'm a bit biased there... ).
Religions don't have to be violent and muslim to be bad. They all spread mistruths and offer false hope to people. A humanity united in their shared, mutual reliance upon science and fact, and without need for superstitious afterlives, can finally put all of our assets to the really important things in life: improving humanity, and reaching the stars.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 15th June 2010
I get the last word?
Check + mate.
Eat that, religion.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - EdenMaster - 15th June 2010
Sorry buddy, but religion isn't going anywhere in your lifetime, nor your childrens, nor your children's childrens, nor your descendants hundreds of years from now. It's simply too ingrained in humanity's history to simply evaporate. People will always believe, whether you tell them to or not, and will pass those beliefs on. Religion will likely never die. You don't have to like it, but you might as well live with it.
Besides, isn't false hope better than no hope at all?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - A Black Falcon - 15th June 2010
Trying to disprove something impossible to disprove... is it really worth the effort, when you cannot succeed?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 15th June 2010
EdenMaster Wrote:Sorry buddy, but religion isn't going anywhere in your lifetime, nor your childrens, nor your children's childrens, nor your descendants hundreds of years from now. It's simply too ingrained in humanity's history to simply evaporate. People will always believe, whether you tell them to or not, and will pass those beliefs on. Religion will likely never die. You don't have to like it, but you might as well live with it.
Besides, isn't false hope better than no hope at all?
Its not so much religion I fear, Its control cults founded by sociopaths who then die and leave their "business" of selling hope like it was cocaine to other sociopaths, Especially those that say "believe me or else" either with threats of physical violence or subjugation in this life and psychologically terrify you about what will happen to you in the hearafter.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 15th June 2010
Sorry buddy, but religion isn't going anywhere in your lifetime, nor your childrens, nor your children's childrens, nor your descendants hundreds of years from now. It's simply too ingrained in humanity's history to simply evaporate. People will always believe, whether you tell them to or not, and will pass those beliefs on. Religion will likely never die. You don't have to like it, but you might as well live with it.
Don't be so sure. Cite any decent study and you'll find an ever more agnostic society. There are more agnostics and atheist in America and the west than ever before. This trend is increasing.
Besides, isn't false hope better than no hope at all?
That's an entirely different philosophical argument. Ignorance is bliss, is that what you're saying? So, if reality is too harsh, just live in a fruity la-la land? I cannot accept it.
Trying to disprove something impossible to disprove... is it really worth the effort, when you cannot succeed?
I don't need to try to disprove it. It is self-evident to anyone with a mind. I say "I believe what I see and can empirically prove." They say, "I believe in invisible deities that nobody has ever seen." Really--HONESTLY--who has to prove what to whom? Are you blokes familiar with my friend the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 15th June 2010
A Black Falcon Wrote:Trying to disprove something impossible to disprove... is it really worth the effort, when you cannot succeed?
Disproving the existence of a god is impossible, But disproving specific gods believed by people is something you can do.
I hope and desire that 90% of the populous will be empiricists that won't accept anything without strong irrefutable evidence be it secular or religious beliefs.
Ignorance is not bliss , Especially when your "beliefs" are so burdensome that they rob you of your happiness and your sanity,You only continue to follow them because you fear god more then anything else and are bound by internal and external pressure , Some people are emotionally weighed down worrying about the salvation of loved ones,One example is Islam and Catholicism were both hold as a tenet that "suicide"(non-homicidal) will land one soul straight into hell or purgatory forever.
Not everyone grows up in the UU church , Some of us get trapped socially and psycologically in "close communities" were association with anyone outside the faith is discouraged, Its true that in my case I was unlucky to be in the "extreme spectrum" and most people don't grow up like that, but Its out there.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 15th June 2010
Again, I would remind you all of the recent trends in American society. The traditional, organized Christian faiths ARE deteriorating in the first-world. France, Sweden, etc... check it out. More and more secular, more and more agnostic. It's the third world, and the second, and the religious right in the first, that cling to the comfort of a deity.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Geno - 17th June 2010
The irony of this "comfort in a deity" is that, as ASM already explained, religion creates burdens for its believers as well. Sure, it's comforting to think that we don't cease to exist after we die and we'll go to a utopia called heaven where we'll always be happy and nothing bad will ever happen to anyone for all eternity, but inversely, there's also this fear of a place called hell, and quite frankly, I'd rather cease to exist than experience fire and brimstone for all eternity.
Then, in perhaps an effort to control the masses, religion lays out rules for how to live one's life. Some rules are basic and easy (don't kill, don't fuck around with other men's wives, etc.), but then some religions get carried away with ridiculous rules such as "don't eat pork" not to mention all the rituals and celebrations that are observed annually. Why is this necessary? Why would humans who simply wanted false hope invent these rules and observations? Why would a church put so much emphasis on hell if religion was invented simply to make people feel better about their own mortality? It's mind-boggling, really.
Life is short and you only have one. Eat pork, drink booze, have sex, and be happy. :)
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Darunia - 17th June 2010
Well, I mean, to draw an analogy:
If you have a child, a young child, maybe five or six, who talks to an imaginary friend, you may or may not permit it. Talking to imaginary friends may or may not seem customary and cute with children. But when your child grows up, and tries to take his/her place in the real, adult world, there comes a time to stop believing in the Easter Bunny, Santa, and all your other imaginary friends. In my perspective, there is no other way to be a fully developed and functional person, to meet your full potential, as long as you cling to comforting aspects of a child's mentality.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - EdenMaster - 23rd July 2010
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/146478/%5BGossip%5D-Anti-South-Park-Islamic-Fundamentalist-Arrested.htm
Geez. Not used to going back multiple pages to find a thread from a month ago on these forums :P
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - Weltall - 23rd July 2010
Zachary Chesser must have been very new to Islam. He hasn't even changed his name to Mohammed yet.
Trey and Matt Parker are threatend by Muslims - alien space marine - 23rd July 2010
I swear to Dog, I wish Islam did not exist.
The only thing it has going for it, Is that it doesnt have a convoluted theology like christianity, Since the quran was written by one guy and not several spanning centuries with differing takes on the same myths, Its Booboo's and fuck ups take a little more effort to detect, especially given the jumbled up nature of the quran.
Islam is far stricter then Christianity, No Booze, No pork, No scantly clad women, No dogs inside the house, No Music except (reciting the quran) , No Blasphemous Jokes,No Pictures inside your house, On top of that several necessary rituals like "bowing to mecca" five times a day and doing absolution ritual washing. Anyone who follows every rule of Islam walks around with a ball and chain psycologically speaking, You can't commit suicide or you'll go to hell unless of course its a "Homicide bombing", No wonder so many want to go and blow themselves up in Jihad.
Their culture has never separated science from religion, Those Muslim philosophers in Cordoba who did are considered heretics today.
link about islam and science
The religion in its fundamentalist form is subversive, People who oppose the free secular state should not be tolerated, Same go's with Neo nazi's and marxist-leninists. We should not allow enemies of liberty to permeate within society, if we don't our children will suffer for it in the future.
We shouldn't antagonize or oppose secular predominantly Muslim states like Turkey and Syria,Regardless of wither or not they are dictatorships, reform can only come from a safe environment for ideas to be exchanged, If it means having a autocratic state that stays within constitutional boundaries so be it.
American's,Canadians,British should not have to pay with tax dollars funding to Israel and join in its unending conflict with the Muslim world, That is primarily at the heart of hatred of America that is spreading terrorism and Caliphatism, Were Letting christian apocalyptics have to much sway in foreign policy.
We need to go back to Neutrality and only act as a impartial arbitrator without bias and preference.
"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." Thomas Jefferson.