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Toven: - Weltall - 27th September 2009

Please explain your answer.

Toven: - DMiller - 27th September 2009

Only if he wasn't on the dark side of the moon.

Toven: - alien space marine - 27th September 2009

Wouldn't his head explode from the lack of a breathable atmosphere? He couldn't transform if he was dead.

Toven: - Fittisize - 27th September 2009

Yeah and what would he drink? Oh yeah, water.

Toven: - etoven - 27th September 2009

I added a vital option.....

Toven: - Fittisize - 27th September 2009

A werewolf can't pick and choose the times he becomes a wolf, that defeats the whole purpose of the legend. It's a curse you can't control.

Toven: - lazyfatbum - 28th September 2009

In the hypothetical event that a lycan was contained on the moon within a sustainable environment he or she would still transform every 30 days. Regardless of where the lycan is at any given moment, he or she changes depending on whether or not the moon is full. Any human or animal affected by lycanthropy will also transform regardless of whether or not they can see the moon. In other words, a lycanthropic man will change even if kept in a sealed room with no windows or doors.

A hypothetical with perhaps more head scratching would be if the moon was removed from orbit or destroyed. Being that the curse insists that the lycan must change upon the full moon, if the moon wasn't there, would he still transform every 30 days as based on the moon's cycle regardless of its existence?

Toven: - etoven - 28th September 2009

Fittisize Wrote:A werewolf can't pick and choose the times he becomes a wolf, that defeats the whole purpose of the legend. It's a curse you can't control.
Not in, native American legend. Native American's shamans could take the form of a wolf any time, any where. Also many variations of the American lycanthrope legends also state that the lycan could change at will with enough skill and concentration, and need not be bound by the phases of the moon.

From WikiPedia:

Werewolves, also known as lycanthropes from the Greek λυκάνθρωπος, λύκος (wolf) and άνθρωπος (human, man), are mythological or folkloric humans with the ability to shift shape into wolves or anthropomorphic wolf-like creatures, either purposely, by being bitten or scratched by another werewolf, or after being placed under a curse. This transformation is often associated with the appearance of the full moon, as popularly noted by the medieval chronicler Gervase of Tilbury, although it may have been recognized in earlier times among the ancient Greeks through the writings of Petronius.

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Toven: - alien space marine - 28th September 2009

etoven Wrote:Not in, native American legend. Native American's shamans could take the form of a wolf any time, any where. Also many variations of the American lycanthrope legends also state that the lycan could change at will with enough skill and concentration, and need not be bound by the phases of the moon.

From WikiPedia:

Werewolves, also known as lycanthropes from the Greek λυκάνθρωπος, λύκος (wolf) and άνθρωπος (human, man), are mythological or folkloric humans with the ability to shift shape into wolves or anthropomorphic wolf-like creatures, either purposely, by being bitten or scratched by another werewolf, or after being placed under a curse. This transformation is often associated with the appearance of the full moon, as popularly noted by the medieval chronicler Gervase of Tilbury, although it may have been recognized in earlier times among the ancient Greeks through the writings of Petronius.

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A mythical Arcadian king Lycaon had slain a infant son of Zeus (demi-god) and attempted to fool Zeus into consuming his own child's flesh by mixing it with lambs meat in a offering, Lycaon was repaid by being cursed as a werewolf and bewitched into killing and devouring his own children and terrorizing Arcadia.

Toven: - Weltall - 28th September 2009

Quote:In the hypothetical event that a lycan was contained on the moon within a sustainable environment he or she would still transform every 30 days. Regardless of where the lycan is at any given moment, he or she changes depending on whether or not the moon is full. Any human or animal affected by lycanthropy will also transform regardless of whether or not they can see the moon. In other words, a lycanthropic man will change even if kept in a sealed room with no windows or doors.

Except in cases of eclipse, a full moon exists at all times if you are in the proper perspective to see it. What we consider to be a full moon is only our unchanging earthbound perception of things. So, does the curse rely on the Sun illuminating only one particular portion of the moon?

Toven: - etoven - 28th September 2009

Weltall Wrote:Except in cases of eclipse, a full moon exists at all times if you are in the proper perspective to see it. What we consider to be a full moon is only our unchanging earthbound perception of things. So, does the curse rely on the Sun illuminating only one particular portion of the moon?
Yes, it's the moons radiation that supposedly causes the metamorphoses, similar to the way it has an effect on the earths tides. Some studied have even proven the moons phases to have a physiological effect on humans as well. So for a werewolf to be on the surface of the moon would cause a constant state of intensified metamorphosis as well as prolonged madness. Id imagine after one hour a werewolf on the moon would be eating it's own flesh.

Toven: - Weltall - 28th September 2009

The moon's radiation doesn't affect earth tides. Its gravity does. I don't think the moon emits any of its own radiation, though it it does absorb a great amount from the sun.

Which, I think, means that sunlight is what causes lycanthropy . . . reflected from the moon's surface, I guess. The amount of sunlight we get reflected from the moon is minuscule (it only reflects about a tenth of the light it receives).

The moon definitely exercises physiological effects, however, on humans as well as many other forms of life. For us, it's an evolutionary throwback to the days when our antecedental primate forebears lived on the open plain.

Toven: - lazyfatbum - 30th September 2009

Weltall/ The curse is based simply on a full moon. If a lycan was in a jet that constantly traveled around the Earth during a full moon it would stay in perpetual were-form until it reached newmoon or first phase as the moon slowly falls back in to shadow but regardless of perspective you'd have to wait for the moon to circle the earth in order to view it at its full illumination -- if its fullmoon in New York it will be a full moon in Japan the next night but anywhere on the western hemisphere the moon will appear the same. The moon, regardless of whether you're physically on it or not, still goes through its phases since those phases are caused directly by the Earth's shadow.

You would still transform every 30 days.

I'd imagine that the months that have an eclipse would void the curse. I always read that if you killed the lycan that infected you or got the curse lifted before your full-moon transformation, you'd never change again. This same ideal says you become more wolf like each night until you become an actual wolf (not anthropomorphic) and that it's the night itself that induces the initial change. That could just be a crossover from the original vampire lore though since vamps can become wolves (among other things, including fog) at will.

Toven: - Weltall - 30th September 2009

Quote:The moon, regardless of whether you're physically on it or not, still goes through its phases since those phases are caused directly by the Earth's shadow.

The phases are not caused by the Earth's shadow. They are caused by our view of the Moon relative to its position facing the Sun. The moon does not usually line up directly with the Earth relative to its orbit around the sun. We would have major lunar eclipses every month if that were the case.

From a lunar perspective, the Earth goes through phases. Certainly, it's not the moon's shadow causing them.

Toven: - lazyfatbum - 1st October 2009

Godammit Ryan play along and help spread interbuttz and confusion! if I can get just one person to spread ideas about the moon he'll bring it up in convo to at least 3 people and so on and here's you: ACKSHUALLEE ITS COPYPASTA FRUM WIKI FLOOP FLOOP FLOOP?? and now look. Just ruin the whole thing why dont you.

Toven: - etoven - 1st October 2009

lazyfatbum Wrote:ACKSHUALLEE ITS COPYPASTA FRUM WIKI FLOOP FLOOP FLOOP??
[size=7]HA!! That was funny as shit...

[size=1]~Sorry Ryan [Image: frown.gif]
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