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George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Weltall - 28th August 2009 What's that you say? It's actually Obama? Well, I guess that's acceptable! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html Quote:Bill would give president emergency control of Internet More proof, I suppose, that Americans were so drunk on this HOPE bullshit that they would have voted for Vladmir Putin if he ran on the Democrat ticket last November. Is this the CHANGE you wanted? George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - alien space marine - 28th August 2009 The Rockefeller family is a bunch of scary motherfuckers. George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - A Black Falcon - 28th August 2009 Jay Rockefeller? One of the least liberal "Democrats" in the Senate... George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Weltall - 28th August 2009 And Olympia Snowe, almost certainly the least conservative "Republcan", now that Arlen Specter finally matched his party with his policies. George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Geno - 28th August 2009 A Black Falcon Wrote:Jay Rockefeller? One of the least liberal "Democrats" in the Senate... Weltall Wrote:And Olympia Snowe, almost certainly the least conservative "Republcan", now that Arlen Specter finally matched his party with his policies.Damn moderates! They need to keep their ultra middle wing politics out of my government! But seriously, the internet is international and no one government can or should try to control it. If the FCC has any say in this, I won't be able to say shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits anymore! George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - alien space marine - 28th August 2009 Having our big brother imitate china is a scary thought George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Fittisize - 28th August 2009 I dunno how bad this is. Just because the power exists doesn't mean it will be used - it's just a safety measure. I like the parallel made with George Bush's decision to suspend all air travel on 9/11 - the power may be extreme and absolute, but it's limited to a short period of time and it has the interest of safety of the people in mind. It doesn't mean that it will be constantly enforced or that it will be used irresponsibly. It does not mean that Big Brother is watching you. With a law like this, you hope that it will never, ever have to be enforced, but if an extreme situation did arise in which it had to be enacted, then it's necessary for it to be done. Doesn't martial law still exist to an extent in the United States, anyways? How is this any worse? George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Weltall - 29th August 2009 It's considerably easier to describe reasons to suspect a 'cyberterror' emergency than it is to suggest one that requires grounding of air flights or outright martial law. George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Dark Jaguar - 29th August 2009 Fitt, I hate to say this but don't be naive. The founding fathers made a point, repeatedly, of noting that no government that gives itself a power goes very long before using it. The question isn't whether or not we can trust them to use this power "wisely" like it's frickin' Batman or something, it is whether they should have it at all. Sacrificing a bit of freedom for a bit of safety nets neither. George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Fittisize - 29th August 2009 I don't think I'm being naive, and I don't think this is a bad law. Honestly, if the government were to routinely take control of the internet for no legitimate reason, the American people would respond with mass outrage and dissent. That's one thing the Americans do best - no other nation cares about and defends its personal freedoms more passionately than the USA, but sometimes this passion toes the line of paranoia and irrationality (see: "Nazi Health Care," "Death Panels," insane town hall meetings). If personal liberties were encroached upon so severly by the government, that government would be swiftly voted out of office. And that's something the Obama administration is definitely aware of, from a survival standpoint if nothing else. I think the greatest check on power is the will of the American people, but it definitely does not mean that all government power is harmful. I personally can't think of a situation of "cyberterror" that would necessitate the government to assume control of the internet. I can't predict the future. But who knows, maybe someday such a situaion might arise. I hope not, though. George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - alien space marine - 4th September 2009 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IXpHZaGGfE4&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IXpHZaGGfE4&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> George W. Bush's proposal to assume control of American Internet for security reasons - Geno - 5th September 2009 What the hell is up with all this fuss over Obama giving a speech to schoolchildren anyway? Conservatives don't even seem to care what he's saying so much as the fact that it's Obama speaking to our youth, thus making himself out to be a role model to them and misleading our youth into being a bunch of little commie bastards. From what I understand, all he's trying to say to our nation's youth is "stay in school, study hard, and graduate because a good education is key to a successful future." Very stock message, but I see nothing wrong with it, nor do I feel that he's pushing his liberal political agenda onto our nation's children. The president is a figure whom children tend to look up to anyway, so he's pretty much the perfect spokesperson for emphasizing to them the importance of a good education. Obama isn't the first president to speak to schoolchildren and I'm sure he won't be the last. |