Crappy DKC screens - Printable Version

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Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

Boy, Nintendo just isn't trying anymore, are they? Not only are they porting DKC for the second time to one of their Gameboys (and alone, of course), but it doesn't even look as good as the SNES version.

[Image: donkeykongcountry_041403_4.jpg]

Crappy DKC screens - -_____- - 15th April 2003

complete utter shit *throws up* :bang:

Crappy DKC screens - Sacred Jellybean - 15th April 2003

There goes my $30 to them.

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

Are you serious? It's such a lazy port!

Crappy DKC screens - WhiteFleck - 15th April 2003

I think Earthbound is a better buy.

Crappy DKC screens - Sacred Jellybean - 15th April 2003

No, no, I'm saying there goes my paying them $30. A $30 loss from their point-of-view.

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

Ah, gotcha. Cool

Crappy DKC screens - A Black Falcon - 15th April 2003

Wow. How did they manage to make it look WORSE than the SNES version on MORE POWERFUL hardware?

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

The world may never know.

Crappy DKC screens - Great Rumbler - 15th April 2003

You guys do realise that those pics are larger than what they will actually look like, right?

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

Those are official Nintendo GBA screen shots. They look bad because the game looks bad.

Crappy DKC screens - Darunia - 15th April 2003

I assume this is a first party-developed title, as Rare I'm pretty sure no longer has the development rights anylonger.

Speaking of Rare, was Dinosaur Planet their only GC title? How well did that sell, was it a hit or a bomb?

Crappy DKC screens - Great Rumbler - 15th April 2003

This pic is closer to how the game actually looks:

Crappy DKC screens - CartoonDevil - 15th April 2003

Those pictures look GREAT!!!

FOR 1993 GRAPHICS.

Nintendo needs to get real.

Crappy DKC screens - Great Rumbler - 15th April 2003

Quote:Originally posted by CartoonDevil
Nintendo needs to get real.

Nintendo is real. I mean there aren't some intangible thing like a dream or something. Get it?

Crappy DKC screens - A Black Falcon - 15th April 2003

I'm not so sure... they aren't nearly as good as DKC on SNES and that game is from like 1994 or 5...

Crappy DKC screens - Dark Jaguar - 15th April 2003

For some reason I think the only thing hurting it is the resolution. It seems resoulution alone really hurts the quality of it.

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 15th April 2003

The resolution is not the problem here. As with all GBA SNES ports, the developers just have to cut a bit from the top of the screen. Yoshi's Island looks as good on the GBA as it does on the SNES and the same goes for ALttP, Mario World, and pretty much all of the other SNES ports for the system.

Crappy DKC screens - Dark Jaguar - 27th April 2003

The sprites aren't as detailed though in those other games, or at least it doesn't matter as much. The reason for the cutting is so the RATIO is maintained. The resolution for the SNES video output and the GBA screen is not the same. However, when you slice off the top and a little bit of the side (you may have noticed that some of the side is also cut off, if not then take a look at the vertical corridors of Mario Bros. 2 and notice you have to scroll from side to side to see all the way to the left or right, whereas in the SNES/NES versions you didn't have to do that), the RATIO is perfectly maintained. Otherwise, you notice some weirdness like when you look at the direct ports of those Animal Crossing NES games to the GBA, how the image is slightly warped due to bad ratio.

GBA: 240x160 pixels

SNES: 512x448 pixels

In any case, I just played some DKC to compair. You should as well. It doesn't look NEARLY as good as I remember, and I know why. At the time, those were the most stunning sprites ever (pre-rendered and everything), but now after all the far superior stuff I've seen, I now see that DKC just doesn't look that good. When I compaired with this in mind, the port does look pretty much exactly like the original. There are two reasons they look worse. The first is the colors are too bright. The colors were darker and sharper in the original. The second is, as I said, the resolution kinda takes away a little of the sprite detail.

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 27th April 2003

DJ, it's definitely not the resolution that's the problem. And it's also not because some of us just forgot what the original game looked like. I just played it the other night and it looks three times as good as this GBA version. If the resolution was the problem there wouldn't be so many GBA games that look much better than anything on the SNES. The main problem with these new DKC screens are the colors. They're very washed out and there are fewer colors than there were in the SNES version. And that is unnacceptable considering that the GBA is capable is displaying many many more colors than the SNES was. This is just the case of a very lazy port.

Crappy DKC screens - Dark Jaguar - 27th April 2003

It looks as though the wavy effect was removed from the underwater scenes. On another note, the wavy effect from touching fuzzy in Yoshi's Island was very glitchy compaired with the original. Maybe the GBA just can't do wave effects as well as the SNES could. It's not TOTALLY outclassing the SNES you know. It's well known the SNES has superior sound capabilities anyway.

Yes just as I said, the colors are bright and not as sharp. That might just be a result of how the screen shots were taken though. There are just as many colors, they just got blended together. Lazyness isn't going to drop the color count, it takes WORK to screw it up like that.

And you seem to forget something, the reason so many games look better isn't because they have the same resolution (because as I pointed out, it's physically impossible for the games to have the same resolution, those resolution specs are absolute fact), it's because they are designed with GBA in mind from teh start, so they work around it (and it's a very small screen which negates the resolution problem). When those pics are shrunk down to GBA screen size, it looks a lot nicer. Assuming it was just a problem with taking the pictures or bad lighting that made everything washed out, I think that they did a pretty good port job. I don't think it's some horrible ruining of the image.

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 27th April 2003

Oh please, don't even try to defend this shitty port. There are dozens of SNES ports on the GBA that look just as good as their SNES counterparts. And have you seen the video yet? It looks just as bad as those screens.

I also never said that the GBA's resolution is comparable to the SNES' (you seem to have some difficulty fully comprehending what others write); I just said that everything else more than makes up for it. And sound has nothing to do with this.

And take a look at these SNES screenshots. There are definitely more colors (and more solid ones) in these than there are in the GBA screens:

SNES:
http://screenmania.retrogames.com/snes/03/snes_0103_018.png
http://screenmania.retrogames.com/snes/03/snes_0103_016.png
http://screenmania.retrogames.com/snes/03/snes_0103_015.png

GBA:
[Image: donkeykongcountry_041403_2.jpg]

Crappy DKC screens - OB1 - 27th April 2003

The screens don't seem to be showing up, so just click edit on my post and copy and paste the url to your browser.

Crappy DKC screens - A Black Falcon - 27th April 2003

Click the links then reload the page to get them to appear.

After looking at those SNES shots its very clear this port is quite bad.. especially when other GBA games have perfect SNES ports and the GBA is more powerful than the SNES...

Why bother? Why not just rerelease the GBC remake of the game if its this lazy...