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France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - A Black Falcon - 8th April 2009 Between legal questions and the fact that it won't work, let's just hope it never gets enacted... not that it'd actually stop piracy even if it was. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/business/global/09net.html?ref=business Quote:France Tries to Limit Internet Piracy France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - lazyfatbum - 9th April 2009 <b><i>LOL France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - Dark Jaguar - 9th April 2009 Um, how would they know what's legal or illegal? This is a simpler way of asking how the heck they would ever be able to moniter everyone on the frickin' internet. It's like someone read 1984 and not only didn't realize that the sheer logistics would render it impossible, but thought it would be a good idea. The best method is still to target the distributers, not the downloaders. That's something that would be far more feasible. Heck they would be far more capable of tracing massive uploads and being reasonably sure something may be going on than tracing massive downloads which could be anything from WOW to a remake of King's Quest. Also they smell. France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - alien space marine - 9th April 2009 Can't do shit to uploaders if their stationed in Sealand. France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - Dark Jaguar - 9th April 2009 Sea land? France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - A Black Falcon - 10th April 2009 Sealand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand Quote:Um, how would they know what's legal or illegal? This is a simpler way of asking how the heck they would ever be able to moniter everyone on the frickin' internet. Magic! Seriously though, they'd only be looking for things that rights-holders tell them to look for, I'd imagine. That would narrow it down a bit, but yeah, it'd still be very difficult. Quote:It's like someone read 1984 and not only didn't realize that the sheer logistics would render it impossible, but thought it would be a good idea. Some aspects of 1984 happened... but not the whole thing. And yeah, you're probably right that the whole thing wouldn't be possible... but some elements... yes. I agree, though, that it isn't possible to stop piracy. These attempts just fail and make people mad at you for trying. Quote:The best method is still to target the distributers, not the downloaders. That's something that would be far more feasible. Heck they would be far more capable of tracing massive uploads and being reasonably sure something may be going on than tracing massive downloads which could be anything from WOW to a remake of King's Quest. So you relocate your servers to countries that don't go after software pirates... but yeah, up to this point, it has always been uploading that gets people in trouble, not downloading. That's because it's so much harder to figure out what someone is downloading than what they're uploading. But as this shows, trying to figure that out is almost impossible without massive rights violations... in the US at least, as much as some industry people wish they could attempt this, I think it'd be impossible to pass such a bill that would hold up in court. In Europe... well, they don't have the First Amendment. Maybe it's possible there. But the article says that even there, it's of questionable legality even if it does pass, and for very good reason... Basically, the problem is that it's not going to be possible to stop internet piracy... but no one is quite sure how to deal with that and have people able to get compensated for their work, in an environment where many people are unwilling to pay for things. Trying to ban it and pretend that the problem can just be made go away, though, will do absolutely nothing. As any nation that actually passes something like this would soon find out, I'm sure. We need to work on actual solutions. This kind of thing... is not exactly helpful. France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - Dark Jaguar - 10th April 2009 As with many things of late, the lawyers aren't the people to go to for solutions. Technology is. Heck I remember getting into some debate with my sister about cat declawing (a cat neither of us owned or had to deal with, which is neither here nor there) and all that fussing about animal rights vs peace of mind and property destruction were nullified the moment someone found out about these little rubber "nail extenders" (like for finger nails, only for cat claws) that can be easily fitted and last for about 6 weeks, and cost about 8 bucks for a box full of them. In this case, if Valve's upcoming digital "signituring" of software works, no extra laws will be needed. They just go after the distributers armed with as accurate a means of identification as finger prints. France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - Weltall - 14th April 2009 Some German 12 year old will send France an angry email, and that will be the end of that. France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - alien space marine - 14th April 2009 Please surrender to piracy France France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - A Black Falcon - 14th April 2009 Well, the French parliament voted down the bill, 21-15. President Sarkozy promises to bring it back, as he's a supporter of the bill, but the first signs are promising at least. :) Quote:Heck I remember getting into some debate with my sister about cat declawing (a cat neither of us owned or had to deal with, which is neither here nor there) and all that fussing about animal rights vs peace of mind and property destruction were nullified the moment someone found out about these little rubber "nail extenders" (like for finger nails, only for cat claws) that can be easily fitted and last for about 6 weeks, and cost about 8 bucks for a box full of them. Cat declawing just isn't right... I don't like it. Seems cruel... :( France Makes Attempt to Stop Internet Piracy - Dark Jaguar - 16th April 2009 I'm willing to do great battle against France's greatest warrior. I've never fought in my life but I think I could take him. Glass Joe right? |