Quote:I'm very utilitarian. Durability is a lot more important to me than any concept of a better "looking" case. Transparency is neat, but it isn't worth it at all to have that at the expense of that sort of fragility.

Quote:At any rate, most jewel cases have their transparency made moot by the paper inserts blocking the view of the disk anyway. At that point, it really makes no difference to me.

Quote:I will at least say this. MS's green color choice for their XBox game cases does look a little silly.

A Black Falcon Wrote:I don't keep games in cardboard boxes either. They're just too big, I'd need a lot of shelving just for game boxes, way, way too much (particularly for the PC boxes, but for consoles as well). I keep the games and boxes separately, boxes in the basement. I don't keep Genesis or SMS games in their cases either, those cases are large and it'd take up a lot of space if I did that... I keep some DVD-style case games in their cases, but not all. Some are in cases, some in CD holder things. For the PC I keep them in their jewelcases (or papersleeves, or for a few DVD cases).

Quote:It's not like all jewelcases break, I have plenty that still work... sure they are less durable, but they don't ALL break or something.

As for cardboard, as I said it's not that bad in terms of durability, really, as long as you don't treat the boxes too badly.

Quote:But the manual art is going to look nicer than the disc art, usually... why would you prefer to look at the disc than the manual? Huh?

Quote:No way, I like Xbox cases. Green is my favorite color, I'd say their color is a plus. :)

Dark Jaguar Wrote:I'm not saying they always break, just that they are more likely to, and that's enough.

Quote:What? When did I ever say that I would prefer to see the disk than the cover art? I'm saying I can't understand why you say jewel cases look better, and the only thing I can even speculate would be the reason is their transparency, which I was saying was rendered meaningless by inserts making it opaque again.

Quote:Well okay then, though I'm again confused as to why you think jewel cases look better, if the look has nothing to do with it.

Quote:On top of that, many EA Sports games didn't use either and instead had two extra controller ports built right into the cartridge.

Quote:Never wanted the games it was put in though...

Quote:Yeah, Sega didn't really take the best path there. Nintendo didn't release their multitap in time, Hudson beat them to it, but Nintendo went with it and just made that one the official multitap for everything. The light gun thing is a bit silly too. Nintendo's side didn't do much better. There were those "enforcer" guns and the Super Scope. To defend the enforcer guns, that super scope was about the most absurd thing to come out of the "to the extreme" 90's. Honestly, it had no business being so ridiculously over sized. There was really nothing that gun did that a smaller gun couldn't do. The "Menacer" wasn't much better, what with all those silly accessories that didn't really add anything to the game.

Quote:Ah yeah I got the company wrong, but some of those controller port-in-cart games were released in America I think. I saw some sitting in a bin in one of the Vintage Stocks around here.

Dark Jaguar Wrote:I suppose you could do the same with the SNES multitap (8 players I mean), though I really don't know if any SNES games made use of it.

Quote:I've seen the enforcer, but I don't have one. The one thing it has about the Super Scope is that if you take off the 2 extra parts, it's a perfectly manageable size (and neither part really added anything if I recall, no buttons or anything).

Quote:At any rate, most of those old light guns depended on specific timing that modern TVs aren't capable of, so if you want to use any of them, you'd need an old TV. Something that did the old line by line drawing to display lines and was very quick getting the image to the screen with no delays (something analog, in other words). Even CRT HDTVs have too big a timing delay to work with them.

Quote:The whole idea of a Mario Paint knockoff on the Genesis is failed from the start. The Genesis can compete with the SNES on some levels, but in terms of both color count and sound, it lags behind. That is, the two things that Mario Paint and anything trying to copy it would need to be good at. As an aside, pretty much everyone I know played Mario Paint for the music player more than the painting. Yes it used a mouse, but I got a lot more fun out of some children's painting program in DOS back then than that. Oh, yeah I did have fun with the fly swatting game, so there's that too I suppose.

Quote:. Incidentally, I see you mentioned Nights in the "small jewel case" up there. I don't think there's a "big jewel case" version of that game, since it came in a box with the "3D controller". That's what I got.

Quote:Those big jewel cases, as I've mentioned, have too much room inside for disks to fly around. I may request that those games in particular, in the future, have the disks individually wrapped for protection instead of simply being shipped in the case as-is, as well as making sure the package is marked "fragile".

Quote:That 3D controller is really nice. Honestly the 3D controller on the Saturn is superior to the Dreamcast one in pretty much every way. There's more buttons, the analog triggers (yes, the triggers are actually analog) feel a bit better, the d-pad is much nicer (based as it is on the Genesis d-pad), and the analog stick is simply vastly superior. There's even a slot where the cord detaches which, I imagine, could also double as an accessory port for, say, a VMU screen.

Quote:I tend to rate the controllers based on the controller all by itself, it's raw potential, more than how it actually ended up being used. The 3D controller may not have been used much, but for me that doesn't change my opinion of it. It's true that the difference is that Dreamcast accessories actually were released, but again I'm just speaking of the controller's potential more than how it actually got used.

Quote: The big question, as you mention, is just whether or not a signal can be sent to the controller as well as from it. If you've got those two things, you can pretty much attach whatever you want. I believe it could receive one. It's a continuous circuit, so it's just a matter of games being able to modify the circuit from connector to controller into pulses of some kind, at which point there's two way communication. Considering that the PS1 controllers, which originally had no reason to send output to the controller, were still eventually successfully modified with force feedback, I'm pretty sure it'd work out perfectly fine.