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Screw causality! - Dark Jaguar - 15th November 2006
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/292378_timeguy15.html
This is interesting. More than that, it's nice to hear an actual scientist talking. How can you tell? In a way that's more sound-bitey than actually logical, he admits it probably won't work. But really, that's science for you. Don't presuppose it, do the test to find out!
So yeah, it probably won't, and he'll accept those results (unlike SOME people out there, you listening ESP researchers who haven't accepted results for over 100 years?), but if it does, he should know the moment he starts the experiment when he recieves a message telling him it worked.
Screw causality! - Great Rumbler - 15th November 2006
If ESP is real, then the Earth is ruled by giant spiders with computer monitors for heads.
And that's the truth!
Screw causality! - Dark Jaguar - 15th November 2006
Now that's a non-sequiter. The important thing is that so far no evidence has shown it to exist, ever. But, if such evidence did show up (and it would have quite a job of having to explain why not a single test had worked before, and it would need to be replicated and peer reviewed, but that's all standard stuff and would be pretty easy to get out of the way in the scheme of things), scientists would believe in it. That's the thing. Will such evidence show up? I doubt it (a lot), but being rational means being open to evidence if nothing else. By the way, I say the same thing about the tooth fairy.
Screw causality! - Great Rumbler - 16th November 2006
Quote:Now that's a non-sequiter.
My logic is impecible and my defenses are impregnable!
Screw causality! - EdenMaster - 16th November 2006
I wonder: if a woman who is in an impregnable guard unit got pregnant, would she have to quit?
This is the kind of thing I spend my time pondering.
Screw causality! - Captain_Rush - 16th November 2006
Interesting.
Screw causality! - Smoke - 16th November 2006
"It doesn't seem like it should work, but on the other hand, I can't see what would prevent it from working," Cramer said. "If it does work, you could receive the signal 50 microseconds before you send it."
So if he receives the signal is it now impossible for him to not send the signal? Because if he does not send the signal he wouldn't of been able to receive it.
Screw causality! - Dark Jaguar - 16th November 2006
We'll find out. If this succeeds, the next experiment on the list would be to recieve it and then intentionally not send it. If that's possible, we just tore space/time a new one, with quantum tunneling!