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Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 23rd May 2006
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Spyware_infestation.png">
Behold unto it and despair.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - The Former DMiller - 23rd May 2006
Wow, I would hate to be the owner of that computer. Although the gorilla looks pretty cool.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 23rd May 2006
Quote:Although the gorilla looks pretty cool.
No. Just, no.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 23rd May 2006
That gorilla is EVIL, and it is marketted to children and the town simpleton, and best of all, he's FREE!
This looks like a job for:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - The Former DMiller - 23rd May 2006
Sorry, I'm not up-to-date on the latest spyware. I must either be a child or the town simpleton. Or maybe I'm the childish town simpleton!
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 23rd May 2006
The gorilla is "banzai buddy" or some such thing, and it is very much spyware. The program advertises how it tells jokes, plays around, and helps you find the BEST DEALS ON YOUR FAVORITE TOYS (which is great for kids that know how to manipulate their parents with a company's ad slogans).
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - EdenMaster - 23rd May 2006
Wow...
At least the guy has a chance at winning a free lobster dinner.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 23rd May 2006
That has to be hard to mail...
In other news, DOSbox has a new version out, .65, http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
Here's wondering to when the day comes when they are comfortable labelling it version 1. At any rate, I'm going to test it out myself and see what works better.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Geno - 23rd May 2006
Wow... that's so sad, it's funny.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - A Black Falcon - 23rd May 2006
People just do not understand how to properly use computers...
I know that's a joke image, but the truth is too close to that for it to completely be humor, sadly... :)
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Geno - 23rd May 2006
Idiots should not be allowed to own computers.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 23rd May 2006
This is what my web browser looks like:
![[Image: desktop2hc.jpg]](http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4862/desktop2hc.jpg)
Minimal and absolutely free of clutter.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - A Black Falcon - 23rd May 2006
I prefer the Windows taskbar to be in Minimize mode so that it's not chewing up a bunch of screen space on the bottom, always have the tabs bar on because I've always got a bunch of tabs open, and use Mozilla Suite and not Firefox, but other than that, yeah, I have no stupid extra programs. I want my computer to actually WORK and not doing stupid things like installing spyware/adware/etc like that stuff...
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 24th May 2006
Quote:and use Mozilla Suite and not Firefox
It's not just Firefox, it's MOZILLA Firefox.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - A Black Falcon - 24th May 2006
It should be IE Firefox, for what it looks like and has as a featureset... :) (no, that is not praise. :D)
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 24th May 2006
Tabbed browsing, Ad-Block, Popup blocker, Internet Movie Database quick search bar, Dictionary search, IE view [for pages that don't quite work right], weather indicators, and economic use of space. Pretty much everything I need.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 24th May 2006
ABF, what is your problem with Firefox? Do you ever actually code HTML? They are making a standalone application for that if that's the feature you are missing, and they have a standalone email client as well. Standalone in this case seems to be better. I will confess the name is a little silly but so was Mozilla. I prefer much more straightforward names like "Netscape" (even though that browser at this point is just a rebranding of Mozilla which I don't bother with anyway).
IE at this point is desperatly playing catchup, and Opera, while uninstalling leaves a nasty aftertaste to clean up, is so far the ONLY browser to pass the ACID2 compliance test so many browsers are aiming at, including IE7. I've been reading the IE7 developer's blog recently. Developer blogs are far more open than the monolithic company "press release" guys, so I'm getting all sorts of info. For example, the IE guys admit fully just how buggy IE is. They basically state the first order of business is cutting IE away from Windows, which was a major security blunder to begin with. Then more security. After making it at least as secure as the competition (meaning basically that the user will, as always, be the weakest link in the chain), they intend on making it complient. They have stated right off the bat that unfortunatly IE7 will NOT pass the acid2 test upon it's initial release but they hope to eventually have it fully complient with some future updates.
In general, these guys actually seem to know what they are doing, and with all the various browser makers of any import working towards the same standards the devastating horrors of the "netscape explorer" browser wars which left countless webpages not fully compatible with either browser (and let's face it, by the end of that war, IE was better than Netscape was at the time), we're going to end up with just being able to pick the browser we like best. Now, if only Macromedia would make their Flash a fully open source thing (or someone else make one that is that takes the net by storm) so that each browser didn't have to wait for Macromedia to design a plugin for it, we'd have a fully compatible internet. What's nice is that with the internet, backwards compatibility isn't too much of an issue. Once something becomes popular enough, the old standards just start vanishing as web pages either update themselves or just drop off the net due to not being updated in 2 years anyway.
For my part, I just want a browser to take up minimal space in memory. I get what I need and don't clutter it down with stuff I don't need. Why would I need a bar to search for movie information at the touch of a button? I don't find myself doing that every single second of every day. I can just pull up a shortcut IF and WHEN I need to pull up that information and the rest of the time there's no memory hogging during my net surfing.
The weather, maybe, but I really don't concern myself with it that much. If it rains, it rains, if it is sunny, it is sunny. I don't do much that requires advanced knowledge of the weather conditions.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 24th May 2006
Quote:Why would I need a bar to search for movie information at the touch of a button? I don't find myself doing that every single second of every day.
I use it all the time. It's quite handy too.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 24th May 2006
I guess if you're a big movie buff... What's wrong with just clicking a bookmark and searching that way? It'd eat less memory.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - A Black Falcon - 24th May 2006
Quote:ABF, what is your problem with Firefox?
I've made the list before...
-Missing numerous options everywhere!
-Menus have been rearranged to look and be laid out like IE menus -- BAD! I want Netscape menus, not IE menus, in a supposedly Netscape browser (given that Mosaic->Netscape->Mozilla->Firefox?)! For instance, Preferences should be called Preferences and be in the Edit menu, not "Options" and be in the Tools menu like IE...
-No email client, no built-in IRC, no newsgroups thing -- yeah I almost never use those features, but it's nice to have them built in and not need external applications for them. Stripping a browser of its features is a bad thing, not a good one.
-No Composer -- and that one I have used. It's really nice to have a web page maker built into the suite. Major flaw in Firefox.
-The Mozilla/Netscape 6/7/8-style skin is unavailable -- the only built in one is a very boring IE-inspired one. Where is my Mozilla look that I like so much? Idiots... This is Netscape, not Internet Explorer! ("Plugins", you say? But with all the browser revisions plugins break... I'm not sure if any of the Mozilla-look plugins still work in the newest versions of Firefox... *checks* Wait, it does. But it looks different and is less functional because of using the Firefox layout and not the Mozilla one.)
-The New Tab button, on the left end of the tab bar, is gone in Firefox. I use that button a lot and really like it! A menubar button (next to the graphic 'next', 'stop', etc buttons) is NOT a decent replacement.
-Tab key navigation options, find-as-you-type, auto-fill switch options, etc are all gone as far as I can see. Some cache options removed.
-Other options that appear to be missing at a glance include menu-level access to the Form, Popup, Image, Cookie, and Password managers (now you have to go to the options screen to see those things), the Registry Viewer, the Chrome Manager, Java Console, JavaScript Debugger, a menu-level access to the themes (instead of having to go to the Themes subscreen), etc, etc... many more things... the Sidebar for instance -- now it is two separate ones, one for History and the other for Bookmarks. The DOM Inspector and Search sidebars are gone, and you cannot simply switch between the tabs to get the different features (The F9 hotkey to open the sidebar is also gone). Maybe not options I use much if ever, but removing features is BAD! I'm sure I've used some of those other removed features before... I just more notice the removal of the features I did use -- the New Tab button, quick access to the Password or Cookie Managers, the Fonts section in Preferences, etc.)
I'm sure that that's just a partial list...
Note that there is another Mozilla Project bowser that appears to be better than Firefox -- SeaMonkey, the new integrated suite application. As Mozilla works fine for me so far, though, I haven't tried it... but it appears to be more like Mozilla than Firefox, so I'd assume that it's an improvement over Firefox -- though of course I can't compare it to Mozilla without using it. :)
Quote:IE at this point is desperatly playing catchup,
You seriously think that they are? Once they have tabbed browsing perhaps, but until then... (but after how many years it took Word to add multiple-documents-per-window, something other word processors had many years earlier, I am not surprised by MS being slow... :D)
Quote:For example, the IE guys admit fully just how buggy IE is. They basically state the first order of business is cutting IE away from Windows, which was a major security blunder to begin with. Then more security. After making it at least as secure as the competition (meaning basically that the user will, as always, be the weakest link in the chain), they intend on making it complient. They have stated right off the bat that unfortunatly IE7 will NOT pass the acid2 test upon it's initial release but they hope to eventually have it fully complient with some future updates.
The obvious solution here is to simply not use IE... :)
Quote:(and let's face it, by the end of that war, IE was better than Netscape was at the time)
IE was better than NS... for like six months yes, after NS4 got too old and NS7 hadn't come out yet -- NS6 was admittedly inferior. But they fixed the problem and went right back to being far better than IE with NS7... the first browser I used with tabbed browsing. Such an amazing feature...
Quote: Why would I need a bar to search for movie information at the touch of a button?
I was wondering why GR wants that plugin too, but it's certainly not a standard feature... :)
Mozilla's integrated Google Search sidebar and menu options (including one to translate a page to English) are kind of nice though, even if I don't use them that much because I prefer Yahoo to Google. :D
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 24th May 2006
Netscape's later upgrade came at the cost of scrapping ALL the code that came before and starting the Mozilla project, and then taking the results of that project to create the new Netscape.
By the way, they did add tabbed browsing to IE, among a number of other features, and they even have your precious "create tab" button right there on the tab bar. They seem to be imitating Firefox with the look.
Wow, and to think Wii is considered a bad name. SeaMonkey? Seriously? Why not just be honest and call it brine shrimp?
Back to IE, it has it's issues, but I'm really just too lazy to update a whole new browser with the plugins I'd like, not that many even... It would be nice to have a "universal plugin interface" standard implemented some day... I will say IE7 does a lot right, but there are still certain features I want implemented. The archaic design of the "custom settings for specific web pages" system they have needs to be completely overhauled. That whole "security zones" thing may have seemed like a good catagory system at the time, but I've never bothered using it and network admins just set up a proxy in businesses anyway to determine what sites are safe and what aren't. Better to scrap that and allow full customizing on one massive list, and if you want to catagorize, you can make your own, as many as you want.
But more than just security settings for each site (catagory as it stands now, but it should be updated to per-site as I suggested) and cookie settings per site (at least they have that right), it is about time a browser let you customize PLUGIN settings for each site. I want to disable Flash and Shockwave for all sites except the ones I allow. IE does let you disable flash at your leisure now, but it is a little clunky to use as of yet. I've seen ones with buttons that let you disable flash at a single click, and that's almost what I want. But, the best would just be to remember my settings per web page (well, domain actually, but that's already the case with the cookie setup so it should be a simple enough thing). And, it should all be accessible from a big shiny "security settings for this page" button right there on the tool bar. I've seen a lot of browsers do cookies like IE and per site security settings better than IE, but I've yet to see any do per site plugin settings.
The only other issue is that IE7 is only going to be released on XP and Vista, while competing browsers are on EVERY OS worth mentioning, but oh well, with all of them imitating each other as well as working towards net standards, I'll be fine just using "whatever".
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 24th May 2006
Quote:I was wondering why GR wants that plugin too,
Because it's easier than typing in http://www.imdb.com and then using their search bar to find a movie. With the plugin, I have the IMDB search bar integrated into my browser.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 24th May 2006
But why would you need it there? And why type? I thought you had a bookmark.
I just don't see myself justifying keeping that in memory all the time when I am only going to actually use it every now and then. I only keep things memory resident when I actually need them to be in memory at ALL times. Quicktime's quick launcher doesn't fit the bill, for example. The only thing that does really is my antivirus program. Nothing else needs to be up there ALL THE TIME.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 24th May 2006
Quote:I thought you had a bookmark.
Okay, then I go to the top menu, click on Bookmarks, click on the link for IMDB, and then type the name of a movie into their search bar. Or instead, I can go to the search bar at the top-right of my browser and type in the name of movie.
Quote:I just don't see myself justifying keeping that in memory all the time when I am only going to actually use it every now and then.
YOU might not use it very much [or at all], but I use IMDB quite a bit.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Dark Jaguar - 24th May 2006
During this post?
I use google ALL THE TIME, but I don't bother with keeping the search engine there all the time because my "all the time" is figurative. I only use it when I use it, and then I just open a browser window and go to the site and search. No need to take up extra memory if I'm not using it. You fail to address this point 5 times. Good day sir!
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - The Former DMiller - 25th May 2006
I see GR's point with the IMDB search bar. I use it all the time as well, so I have a widget for it. I just press F12 and then type in what I'm looking for. I use it a few times a week so it's pretty handy to have.
Spyware hath claimed this system and raped the land. - Great Rumbler - 25th May 2006
[quote]No need to take up extra memory if I'm not using it.[/qoute]
If you want to save memory, why even open up your browser at all? Might as well just leave the computer off, save a bunch of memory that way.