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All your site are belong to us! - Weltall - 27th February 2003
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Woof! :amunk:
All your site are belong to us! - The Former DMiller - 27th February 2003
Sucks to be that guy.
All your site are belong to us! - Laser Link - 27th February 2003
Wow, after doing all that research on videogame piracy a few weeks ago for my report, I was under the impression that they couldn't shut down mod chip distributors. They have legal applications in importing and playing your own backups, and although maybe 0.00001% of mod chip owners use them for legal purposes, the mod chips themselves were supposedly not technically illegal. Good to see this happening though, since they should be illegal.
All your site are belong to us! - OB1 - 27th February 2003
What about people who want to import games? The GC mod chip doesn't allow you to play pirated games; it just let's you play imported games.
All your site are belong to us! - Dark Lord Neo - 27th February 2003
The local modchip salseperson doesn't carry some of the newest PS2 chips because they are actually illegal because they use a copy of Sony's BIOS on the chip and copying Sony's BIOS violates copyright laws
All your site are belong to us! - Laser Link - 27th February 2003
Yes, that's true. You can't copy the BIOS code, but in my research that was the only time mod chips or emus were considered illegal.
OB1, you don't even need a mod chip to play import GC games. Soon, all you will need is the Freeloader. And if these particular mod chips only allowed you to play import games, Sony, MS, and Nintendo wouldn't waste their time or money.
All your site are belong to us! - OB1 - 27th February 2003
That's true, but last year people had to mod their Gamecubes in order to play import games.
All your site are belong to us! - Dark Jaguar - 28th February 2003
I must agree that such devices should be legal. However, it seems that a recent law I read about makes it actually illegal to circumvent any security protocal built into ANYTHING. This in my opinion really opens a nasty can of worms. What is and what is not considered a security protocal? Companies could technically sue the next time you turn on a VCR when the case is removed by directly pressing the "underbutton" instead of the case button, like when you are cleaning and testing the heads. This in my opinion is a very bad law. Such a law should be undone.
As far as chips, while it is of course wrong to be copying and distributing the BIOS code, mod chips that don't use such techniques should be perfectly legal. The people actually using them legally are of course few and far between, but they should not be punished for the actions of the many. I suppose perhaps mod chips should be designed to only allow all regions to be played, and not to allow all games, including copied ones, to be played. However, that removes the rights of those who copied their own games and damaged the originals (like Weltall's scratched Chrono Cross disk, which I wish he made a copy of, but maybe he can find a disk image somewhere...) to play those copies.
Well, to be honest here's just another problem with rampant software piracy. It punishes those who have perfectly legitimate reasons for using mod chips (legal backup copies and imports) because of these greedy people defending their actions with the stuff I talked about before... It's just very annoying... You know, maybe they could do background checks before issuing mod chips. Nah, since most likely millions of people go around sittin' completely uncatchable with their copies (oh, and just in case some of you are paranoid/hopefull about MS's new tech to check for sigs, that's a pipe dream with two very apparent flaws. One is that all the pirates can easily make copies of said software that has none of the signatures needed to identify it as something that needs a signature. Here's the second issue, in case you were wondering, why a sig to check for sigs? That's the only way they could possibly continue to allow pre-sig checking stuff to run on everyone's PC, like old PC games and old music, and old everything, unless they want to totally alienate all their customers by saying "everything on your old PC cannot be used anymore, ever") that's not going to work, since all background checks would turn up clean except for like 3 people who actually got caught... I guess they felt this punishment of the innocent method was the best option, lest such piracy just be allowed to continue... The main problem is this, it will continue. The people on the net selling the illegal copies of the games will just be the only providers of the mod chips now... That's the thing they should have gone after in teh first place actually. It's the illegal game copying they were trying to stop, and I doubt that's been hampered at all... Nah, continued raids on various warehouses are probably the only things to be done, which leaves the people copying and selling games from their houses untouched...
The day a net escort AI can finally be developed will be good indeed. Mine will be a bouncing bunny with a halo! No more searching when an intelligent cyberlife can do all the data gathering for me, presenting it in a friendly manner. Think the little helper monkeys in various MS Office stuff, but instead of the stupidest most useless avatars I've ever seen, it'll actually do something!