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E3: Revolution Revealed! - Smoke - 17th May 2005 Quote:Revolution joins the gaming wars By Steven Kent, Special for USA TODAYSource: USATODAY.com Quote:E3 2005: Revolution Details Emerge Two-to-three more times powerful than GameCube.Source: IGN E3: Revolution Revealed! - Smoke - 17th May 2005 2 to 3 times more powerful than GameCube. ... E3: Revolution Revealed! - lazyfatbum - 17th May 2005 I just woke up to pee and I thought i'd look on TC and holy god!!! Wait for pics and movies, that's the big thing. Wait. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Smoke - 17th May 2005 Someone at GAF who "knows things" said that Nintendo is just being conservative. Even if that's true, damn you Nintendo and your conservative estimates! Have you learned nothing Nintendo? MS: Xbox 360 is 14 times more powerful than Xbox! Sony: PS3 is 35 times more powerful than PS2! Nintendo: Revolution is 2 to 3 times more powerful than GameCube! *crickets chirp* *tumbleweed rolls by* Somewhere in the distance a child is crying. E3: Revolution Revealed! - N_A - 17th May 2005 I think Nintendo is going to be the only affordable console in the next generation, being only 2-3 times as buff as the Gamecube. All the other consoles have super stats, making them as strong as top notch PCs, which cost about $2000 with all the LCD screen, etc. If you take away the screen and some of the other things PCs come with, you've got a console that might cost around $1000. I'd be amazed if the 2 other companies were able to put them on the market for less than $500. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Smoke - 17th May 2005 Don't know if it's true but I just read that the PS3 we've seen is the $300 model. Supposedly there will be a $500 model a few months later that will have a bigger HDD and a writable Blu-Ray drive. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 Quote:that also will have downloadable versions of nearly every Nintendo game Wow. Quote:MS: Xbox 360 is 14 times more powerful than Xbox! I never really trusted stuff like that. I mean, who even knows what the heck that means anyway? E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Holy shit! Damn that's one sexy-looking system! But 2-3 times? WTF? Even if those numbers are conservative, hasn't Nintendo learned that the whole conservatice numbers thing hurt them last time around??? Shit. Oh and... regular dvds, kiddos. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Holy crap: ![]() ![]() ![]() That is by far the best-looking next gen system. WOW. And it's called Revolution! I called it! :D E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 The blue light compels you!! E3: Revolution Revealed! - Laser Link - 17th May 2005 Yup, they are sticking with Revolution. I didn't expect it, but it works. Looks very, how to best describe it... sleek. ;) The part that made me most exited is the DOWNLOADING OF (nearly) EVERY NINTENDO GAME EVER MADE!!! I don't care if they charge for it, that is incredible. What a great way to grab those old school gamers who grew up on the old Nintendo classics and wish they could play them again. This way you can, but only if you buy a Revolution. This is way better than simply backwards compatible. Nintendo took that idea and perfected it. Very nice. Chances are Nintendo will allow third parties to do the same thing. Just sign Tecmo up, I want some old school Tecmo Bowl action. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 So does this mean that the Revolution will have a harddrive? E3: Revolution Revealed! - Smoke - 17th May 2005 I know it's probably asking for too much but can you imagine if the old school games had online play. :D E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 I think that is asking for too much. :) It would be awesome though. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 I wonder why the logo has a big disc and a small disc in it. I like it, but is that a part of the revolutionary feature? Is backwards compatibility really that big of a thing to put into the logo? I dunno... E3: Revolution Revealed! - The Former DMiller - 17th May 2005 It's pretty much confirmed it has a harddrive if you can download games. I'm glad Nintendo is providing a free online service because even though I love Nintendo I doubt I would have paid for their online service. Now paying for old Nintendo classics, that is a different story. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Dark Jaguar - 17th May 2005 Either a hard drive or some massive flash memory :D, so yes, a hard drive. I don't think it will be limited to OLD games either. This basically means the ENTIRE selling point of that old... what was that one system everyone made fun of because of doubts of it's very existence? Anyway, here we are. This must be Nintendo's revolutionary concept. No longer do you need to go to the store. Just buy and download it to your system if you want. This thing better have a massive storage capacity. Anyway, sounds interesting. Next question, the controllers, ARE they rechargeble? They better be. Also, I'm hoping the wireless system is modifiable enough that a designer can let it detect wireless mice and keyboards nearby. I wonder if it has a broadband port. It's not needed really, but I like as stable a connection as possible on a system that won't be moving an inch anyway. Oh, about DA POWER. Remember the PS2 was the weakest anyway, so it could have a couple times extra power more than the revolution and still not match up to it. I like the nice conservative estimates. At least they stay honest. And don't worry, this isn't going to hurt them. The only people that will even look for that quote and stick with it are fanboys that wouldn't be affected even if they said it was a 100 times more. I don't think quoting numbers is going to sell systems. What's with EVERYONE saying "you can tilt it on it's side!" these days? I don't know about them, but my entertainment system is set up for stacking systems lying flat on top of each other. Oh well, it's something anyway. Nintendo's offering of an actual factual online service is nice too. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Laser Link - 17th May 2005 My only real complaint about the console is I think they should have gone with a different color glow in the disc slot, like red. Blue looks too much like a PS2. Plus I like red more. :) E3: Revolution Revealed! - Laser Link - 17th May 2005 According to PGC: http://planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=6274 512 MB flash memory built in, upgradable with SD cards (yeah we've heard that before) Yes, it's small, but the SD cards will work well. Besides, how big is a SNES game anyway? 2 USB ports Multiple colors being shown at E3, come with silver stand It does load both standard DVD size (12cm) and 8cm GC discs. I don't know if that was already announced. And it is slot loaded. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 Downloadable versions of all Nintendo games ... wow... I wonder what this means... games by Nintendo? All software released for all platforms? That'd be so amazingly awesome... As for the power, we'll see. I'd be bad if it's just 2-3 times the power of GC when the others are far more. But if they're being conservative... well, we'll see. And hope that it's not that bad. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 I really can't imagine that the whole downloadable games thing is the revolutionary aspect. It's supposed to be something that attracts game designers, and being able to play a bunch of old games does not sound like that. The gyro controller thing, as cool as it sounds, isn't even supposed to be the revolutionary thing. So I doubt this is it. If so... Nintendo is fucked. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 Quote:I really can't imagine that the whole downloadable games thing is the revolutionary aspect. It's supposed to be something that attracts game designers, and being able to play a bunch of old games does not sound like that. It's just really awesome. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Yes, it is really awesome. But revolutionary in a gameplay manner? A new way to play games? NO. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 So? It's awesome! And I'm sure it's not the only revolutionary thing about the Revolution! E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Yeah, and when will we find that out? I didn't expect them to give away the big revolutionary feature, but they didn't even show a damn demo reel! Not even a tiny clip. Sony fucked Nintendo up the ass this E3. And Nintendo screwed over its fans. Damn damn damn. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 Maybe they aren't showing it because they don't think it can compare to PS3/X360 (someone suggested this on msn)? E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Yeah great strategy. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Oh and one another thing. With no HDD support (as far as we know), and only 512 MB of internal storage capacity... how the hell are we going to be able to d/l GC games? They mentioned that'll it take SD cards, great... so let's see... to be able to d/l one GC title you'll have to get a 2GB SD card, which'll run you at about $160. Nice. Great deal! Seriously, this downloadable games thing is worthless for GC and N64 games without a HDD. Why didn't they announce a HDD peripheral at the show? Ugh. E3: Revolution Revealed! - lazyfatbum - 17th May 2005 You cant d/l GC games. It showed NES, SNES and N64 E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 You sure about that? I thought they mentioned being able to d/l everything from Donkey Kong to Mario Sunshine. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 I thought it'd be GC compatible with the disks, and the old consoles for DL... but I'm not sure. And yes, space is a problem. It badly needs a HDD addon, like PS3 and X360 will both have. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Hmm. Well whatever the case is, 512MB will only hold a handful of N64 games. E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 Definitely true... and that'd vanish even faster if it's also for downloadable content from the net... they need a hdd! E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Although, if you can use SD cards then you could store them on your computer... E3: Revolution Revealed! - A Black Falcon - 17th May 2005 True, if you computer takes SD cards... E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 If they're free though it wouldn't matter that much if you could only hold a few, but I'm kind of thinking that they'll probably charge for this. Quote:Yeah, and when will we find that out? I didn't expect them to give away the big revolutionary feature, but they didn't even show a damn demo reel! Not even a tiny clip. Sony fucked Nintendo up the ass this E3. And Nintendo screwed over its fans. Damn damn damn. Calm down...and then think about Super Smash Brothers Online at the Revolution launch. Feel better yet? E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Press release: Quote:AT E3, NINTENDO SHOWS PRODUCTS THAT EXPAND APPEAL OF VIDEO GAMES TO NEW AUDIENCES Look at how the talk about the Revolution. The way they word it... sounds like the revolutionary thing might just be the backwards compatibility/download/wifi stuff. ... please, Nintendo, PLEASE don't let this be it. :( *cries* E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 Didnt' Iwata say the wouldn't reveal the new controller because it would reveal some of the Revolutionary nature of the Revolution? Ha-ha, redunancy. Quote:please, Nintendo, PLEASE don't let this be it. You take what Nintendo says too seriously sometimes, OB1. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Quote:Didnt' Iwata say the wouldn't reveal the new controller because it would reveal some of the Revolutionary nature of the Revolution? Ha-ha, redunancy. I dunno, but that is my last hope. Quote:You take what Nintendo says too seriously sometimes, OB1. Let's look at the facts here: -This is the first time Nintendo is going online. It's big news for them. And it's wifi, which is new for gaming in general. -Their press release makes the whole BC/DL thing sound like the big revolutionary aspect of the system. -The LOGO of the system shows two discs, which again highlights BC as a huge feature. Think about it. I hope, nay, I PRAY, that I am wrong about this. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 Quote:Let's look at the facts here: What I meant was, they you took the whole "Revolution" thing too seriously. Expecting Nintendo totally revolutionize the gaming world with their new system, well, I didn't. And for good reason. You see, Nintendo tends to think that anything new is amazingly innovative, now they do cool stuff sometimes, but not always. So I took that with a grain of salt. On the other hand, they may be more to this than we've seen so far. Revolution IS still over a year away, you know. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 I was expecting something at least as innovative on a gameplay level as the DS. I really believed that Nintendo would create a new type of control device or something else that would chance the way games are played. You act as if they've never done this before. What do you think the N64 was? That completely revolutionized gaming! E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 Given their track record in the past few years, I figured that not having extremely high expectations would probably be a good thing. Certainly I'll be happy to be proven wrong about this, though. They still got over a year till launch, after all. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 So they messed up with the GC in terms of innovation. They're still an innovative company, and I was hoping that the Rev would be their return to form. It's not looking good, is what I'm saying. I hope to be prove wrong, I really, really do. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 Still over a year. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 And it looks like the revolutionary thing is not revolutionary. Not in gameplay terms, anyhow. E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 ![]() E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 Am I the only one here not in denial about all of this? Or were none of you really expecting anything great from Nintendo this E3. E3: Revolution Revealed! - lazyfatbum - 17th May 2005 *reminds everyone that there's still an entire week to go of E3 and Nintendo said at the end of the video that more will be shown tomorrow* E3: Revolution Revealed! - Great Rumbler - 17th May 2005 It's not like there's any point is being depressed and stressed out either. Nintendo's showing could have been better, yeah, but it wasn't like it was some complete disaster that they have no chance of recovering from EVER. No, that's what MS's press conference was. ... Alright, so MS's wasn't that bad, but it was quite horrible. E3: Revolution Revealed! - OB1 - 17th May 2005 lazyfatbum Wrote:*reminds everyone that there's still an entire week to go of E3 and Nintendo said at the end of the video that more will be shown tomorrow* Well, three days. And where did Nintendo say that they'd show video tomorrow? Are you serious? Please, don't be making shit up! The reason why I'm so doubtful is because Nintendo has never shown more stuff after their press conference. Well, nothing new. The press conferences are where they unveil everything. Let's hope this year is different. |