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Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

I can't even merge threads anymore. I have no admin or even mod powers. What's the deal?


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Correction: I have been reduced to a mod. So I can't even edit my own damn thread titles.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2005

The same thing happened to me. I didn't do very much with my mod powers, but I would kind of like them back if that's possible.


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

So what the hell happened, Ryan?


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

Same.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

http://tcforums.com/forums/showgroups.php?


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

What the fuck. Ryan didn't even tell anyone about this, which makes him a huge ass. Unless this was an accident, or not his fault.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

I agree with your sentiment if not the way you phrase it. :)


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Seriously, I do more useful admin stuff than anyone else here next to Ryan.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

If there was a reason, or someone abusing their powers, I could understand it... but that isn't happening, and I'd say that us people with mod powers have used them well, so it's just not nice to remove them. Mod? Oh joy... mod powers are completely useless at TC. There's nothing to moderate, after all.


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

I saw Ryan browsing the forum since I made this topic, but he has yet to comment. What's going on, maaaaan?


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

Well, I for one think it was a perfectly sensible thing to do. What the heck did we ever really do anyway?


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Well you didn't do anything, but I help fix the forum when it messes up every so often, and move threads to their appropriate areas, among other things. Now I can't even fix a typo in my thread title.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

Yeah, it's a lot of little things... being able to change thread titles, check IPs to see if someone is new or just another member with a new name, post in closed threads everywhere, access admin-only forums (look for Forum 5 on your threads list! Oh wait, it's gone now... there's another (hidden) admin-only forum too), the forums-list page (yes, the Mod page has one, but it's nowhere near as useful and has far fewer features), to be able to fix the forum when it breaks, back up the forum database, fix profiles and stuff (like join dates, etc), and other things... just a bunch of things that are very nice to be able to do.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

Yes, I heard about that. I was never here when it messed up, but apparently you clicked the um... fix button :D. Such prowess...

But yeah, you did some minor things, everyone did now and again. But, it was all meaningless stuff. All those powers just sorta got in the way really. I think it's best everyone's crippled again. Heck, even this many MODS is too much. But, we can never have too many mooninites! Put me in that exclusive club! Ah hell I'll do it myself....

...

MIND TAKER!


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

No, nobody else helps fix the forum went it goes down. No one else aside from Ryan.

This is extremely annoying. If people make duplicate threads I can't merge them anymore. I can't fix my thread titles. I can't do anything.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

I disagree, they're very useful things to be able to do and restricting them to just Weltall and Lazy is not a good idea because neither of them are around all that often, so if it breaks it could be down for a while... to say nothing of how annoying it is to not be able to do things like change thread names or see Forum 5... (not that I've wanted to do them since powers were removed, but that when I would want to it's annoying to not be able to...)


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Yeah exactly.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

Well, fixing aside, think of it this way. Maybe things can go back to how they were. Instead of thinking about what you need to do to OTHER PEOPLE, we can go back to just making posts and if something happens like two threads, just bask in the not caring about it of it all and go with it. Can't you see? The upside to this total lack of THE POWER? Just focus on making the best post you can be... er... that... but with good grammar...


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Yeah great idea, DJ. There's no need for admins here! We need to take away the power of fixing thread titles! Let's just leave it to two people that post maybe five times a week! WOO!


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

"Don't fix things that aren't broken" is a good philosophy, and I'd defininitely say that our admin system isn't broken, and doesn't need to be "fixed".

DJ, I don't get you... you seem to think that admin powers are abused here, or something. Except that they aren't. Oh, sure, OB1 threatened to abuse them during that incident a while back, and once Stealth messed up the forum, but... where is all this abuse? The stuff Biggah was complaining about several years back? That doesn't even happen anymore... so you'd have a point if there was anything backing up your thesis that there is admin abuse occuring, or that people having these powers does anything bad to this forum, but I see absolutely nothing supporting that hypothesis so I definitely say that I believe it is wrong.

Quote:Yeah great idea, DJ. There's no need for admins here! We need to take away the power of fixing thread titles! Let's just leave it to two people that post maybe five times a week! WOO!

On average, for the past couple of years, I doubt it's even that often...


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

Actually I don't see that much abuse, I'm just saying it doesn't really matter all that much. Seeing as how we can't really do much about it except complain, my suggestion is that we don't complain and just accept it. Maybe lazy did this as a joke, I dunno, but if it's Ryan then oh well. He might be trying to teach us a lesson or something, and honestly that's fine by me.

What I'm saying is it may just be best to just let it go. Just say "eh, oh well" and leave it at that. If it was a bad move, we'll see that in due time. Until then, let's just post.


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

This is idiotic and it makes no sense. Ryan owes us an explanation.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

Well, technically we owe HIM and he owes us NOTHING :D.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

We deserve an explanation, though. It's a significant change, and not for the better...

I know, it's his site, so he can change the rules as he wants... but not without an explanation, and a reason... I don't see either of those here.


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Look, I know that Ryan pays for this site and we owe him tons of thanks for that, but like we once told ice-9, TC is nothing without its posters. And I have offered to help him pay for the site before. We absolutely deserve an explanation for this. If this is going to become the "Ryan and lazyfatbum" forum, I'm more than happy to leave.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2005

I used my admin power to manage attachements back when we were worried about running out of space. An important task, I must say.

And yes, I would like to know why I've been bumped down to mod. Lord knows I've never abused my powers before...well...okay I did once or twice.


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Having admin powers is half the fun here. Without them... meh...


Ryan, what the fuck? - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2005

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, man?!


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

Right!


Ryan, what the fuck? - EdenMaster - 13th May 2005

Hmm...very odd. Nothing's happened recently to warrant all of our demotions. Was lazy always an admin?

Eh, well if that is what Ryan wishes then that's how it is. Having my powers was more of a convenience for me than anything. I liked having them, but I won't shed any tears if I've been chosen to have them removed.

A brief explanation would be nice though...


Ryan, what the fuck? - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2005

I just enjoyed the fact that I was an admin and other people weren't. Yes, I am vain.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Undertow - 13th May 2005

I was demoted to registered user, dammit!

Oh wait. <img src="http://img140.echo.cx/img140/7641/emotdowns6te.gif">


Ryan, what the fuck? - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2005

At least I'm higher up than Undertow. *must count for something*


Ryan, what the fuck? - EdenMaster - 13th May 2005

Great Rumbler Wrote:I just enjoyed the fact that I was an admin and other people weren't. Yes, I am vain.

Umm...but most of us WERE admins, GR :). You enjoyed being higher ranked than about 4 people?

...

Yeah, I did too.

Bounce


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

Quote:Yeah, I did too.

Well same here, but I also really like the powers it gives...

Quote:Having admin powers is half the fun here. Without them... meh...

They're definitely fun, and it's definitely not as fun without them.


Ryan, what the fuck? - EdenMaster - 13th May 2005

We've all been spoiled by our admin powers, now we're all just *shudder* mods.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

We're well past the point where us all having admin powers is part of the fun of TC... I don't want to go back to the days before that, and don't know why Weltall would either...


Ryan, what the fuck? - EdenMaster - 13th May 2005

Well, only he can say why he did what he did.

Seriously though, if I've lost my admin powers it's really not going to be that big a deal for me. I used them so infrequently anyhow. It was just nice knowing they were there if I needed them.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Weltall - 13th May 2005

Calm down ladies, I think everything's in working order again. Everyone try your stuff out and let me know.

<i>Edit: Yep, everything seems to be in order for me.
~EdenMaster</i>

Yup. So what happened? An accident? - ABF


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

Hmm... was anyone else (actual real members I mean, not Canyon Man or the Evil Genious Embodiment) an admin? *checks list* Also Smoke.

Wait a minuite... when I go to the Admin Panel, there are just three things there, the same three from the Mod Panel... it says it's the admin panel, and I have the admin powers here on the forum, but I'm not getting the actual Admin Panel.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Weltall - 13th May 2005

Try now.


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

No change. So, does anyone else have this problem?


Ryan, what the fuck? - Weltall - 13th May 2005

Okay, I found that while my ability to access the admin panel was not restricted, apparently I was removed from my position as superadministrator, which allows me to control the functions of the regular admins. I repaired that bit of code and I discovered that somehow all of the admin's functions were reset, denying them all pretty much everything an admin can do. I believe that now you'll find everything normal again.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Waltell - 13th May 2005

I created a test account, and apparently this account has full access. Everyone who should have such access does now. In fact, some of you may notice that you have options you never saw before.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Undertow - 13th May 2005

Waltell Wrote:In fact, some of you may notice that you have options you never saw before.

I found the reply button. <img src="http://img140.echo.cx/img140/7641/emotdowns6te.gif">


Ryan, what the fuck? - OB1 - 13th May 2005

So what exactly happened?


Ryan, what the fuck? - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2005

Yeah, it's fixed now.

Except that now in the forum all the usernames (in the sidebar)are huge, bold, and italic... weird...


Ryan, what the fuck? - EdenMaster - 13th May 2005

Same way with the topbars too.

Looks rather nice, I think.


Ryan, what the fuck? - Dark Jaguar - 13th May 2005

So it IS grass... I'm eatin' it!

...Oh I mean, so it was an error. Eh, either way works for me.