Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up.

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Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - bountyhunter - 1st September 2004

http://www.gizmo.com.au/public/News/news.asp?articleid=3117

Sony's bright idea to advance the size of flash memory sticks is great because when new technology enters the arena it gives the old technology a chance to die down in price, of course the entire idea that sony's very own large capacity memory sticks being used in the Nintendo DS makes me laugh.

While 2G's is a very large amount the price notably is $350 which is reason enough not to use it but the price of 128 meg flash cards is going to come crashing down giving the DS an almost ten times larger game size then the average N64 cart.

Thanks Sony ^_^

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 1st September 2004

The DS is using Sony memory sticks?

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - bountyhunter - 1st September 2004

It's using a universal memory stick, which means funnily enough that unless Nintendo puts some protection or block out method on the DS it's up to the developer which brand and size they use which could very well mean that one of Sony's memory sticks ends up in your nintendo DS.

On another note, even if one doesn't end up in your DS Sony's continued interest in developing better memory technologies means that Nintendo's memory stick or card of choice will drop in price to compete, either way it's a win-win for us and Nintendo.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Dark Jaguar - 2nd September 2004

"universal"? I thought the PHYSICAL size of all the card brands was limited. Are you saying memory cards have FINALLY been standardized?

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - bountyhunter - 2nd September 2004

There are six major types of memory cards, thats mostly to do with shape which is stupid, there should be a universal one, but the DS uses the one most commonly seen in kodak camera's, atleast it very much resembled the one in my kodak some thing or rather, I'll find out the model number if this becomes an issue, but yeah. Either way it's not the shape of the card thats important it's the technology behind the memory that makes a difference, which ever the DS uses that memory stick will be in competition with sony's which would still mean that it's going to lower in price the better sony's memory gets, like I said, a win-win.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Weltall - 2nd September 2004

You refer to the SD memory card? They seem to be by far the most common.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

That would make the most sense since Nintendo has always had a good relationship with Panasonic.

Hmm, does this mean that we'll soon have DS games that go over the 1 Gb limit? A lot of developers have been complaining about the low DS card capacity.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

They probably could go over that size, as the DS game cards do seem to have a lot in common with SD cards, but it'd raise the price (of the cards/games), and quite a bit too I'd bet...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

1Gb is so tiny...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

It's ~120MB, right? Like, twice as big as the largest N64 game ever...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

~128 MB.

Yes it's larger than a N64 cart, but remember how standards keep on changing, Brian? Hell, the N64 carts were behind the times as soon as they were released.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

True... but still, with compression it seems like you could fit a decent amount onto it. And with graphics of that detail (as in with lower quality graphics less space is needed for that part of the game) the only real need for lots of space is either lots of voice or FMV, after all...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Well developers are complaining for a reason.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

Because they want FMV?

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Or voice, since that's one of the DS' big features.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

True. But they are cards and big cards cost a lot, you know.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Yeah I know, but it'll hurt them.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

But it's better than using moving media and killing your battery life...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Nintendo invented tiny little DVDs. They should have used them.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

Absolutely not! Battery life!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Great Rumbler - 2nd September 2004

I'm still not convinced that the PSP's moving media's going to be very durable and then there's battery life...

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

We'll see. Eventually Nintendo is going to have to switch to discs for their handhelds.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 2nd September 2004

Durability, that's also a pretty good point actually... carts are durable. CDs aren't.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

And VHS tapes are more durable than DVDs.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - geoboy - 2nd September 2004

And shoes are more durable than bacon.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Exactly!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Sacred Jellybean - 2nd September 2004

Quote:And VHS tapes are more durable than DVDs.

But you don't carry around DVD/VCR players. Unless you're stupid. The portable DVD players I've seen, anyway, are put down on a flat surface and watched, rather than held in the hands. And when disc players aren't used on flat surfaces, there's potential to scratch the discs, isn't there? Doesn't the PS2 have some problems scratching the disks when played vertically?

<i>Exactly.</i>

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

Portable DVD players are usually watched on a person's lap because of their size. But you can hold them and the good ones won't fuck up on you. The PS2 does have problems being played vertically (even though it was meant to be played that way), but that's because of Sony's cheap, shitty PS2 hardware. Most players aren't like that. There is little difference between the durability of that and a good Walkman CD player. You guys are living in the stone ages.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Great Rumbler - 2nd September 2004

Quote:but that's because of Sony's cheap, shitty PS2 hardware.

And we should have confidence in the PSP because...?

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 2nd September 2004

... well, their portable hardware has always been durable.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Private Hudson - 2nd September 2004

Scratched DVD's when played vertical? Cheap shitty hardware?

The machine was MADE to play in a vertical position. It does NOT scratch the disc when it's vertical. It MIGHT, however, scratch the disc if you are playing the game while the machine is horizontal, and while the machine is reading from the disc, you decide to change it into vertical.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 3rd September 2004

I got a bunch of scratched PS2 discs when I had the system stand on its side, and my local game stores have notices warning people about playing their PS2s vertically. It really does fuck up your discs. And my PS2 reads my discs only half the time nowadays, even though I keep it dust-free and in perfect condition all of the time.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 3rd September 2004

Quote:... well, their portable hardware has always been durable.

Keep telling yourself that about the PSP, but I doubt it'll make it true... :)

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 3rd September 2004

That's it, you've forced my hand...

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Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Great Rumbler - 3rd September 2004

Hahaha! I can't help but laugh everytime I see that pic! :D

My PS2 is getting where it only reads discs half the time too. Most of the time it won't read discs sitting in a horizontal position so I turn it on its side for a minute until it starts going.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 3rd September 2004

Yeah what a crappy piece of hardware.

I love that pic as well. I think it's due for an update though. :D

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 3rd September 2004

and then maybe my face could end up on it, so i don't feel like such an outsider like i do every time i come here and no one likes me...

haha!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 3rd September 2004

Yeah, ok. But you know, maybe you should get a different avatar. That's kinda small.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 4th September 2004

oh, so now my head's too small?

geez

...new avatar, eh? hmmm..........................i'll get back to you on that one!!!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 4th September 2004

DONE AND DONE!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 5th September 2004

... I mean something that could work as a head on a body.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Private Hudson - 5th September 2004

Have you tried opening up your PS2 and cleaning it?

I know you think it's being kept dust free, but you'd be surprised. Every time mine stops playing I just clean it and it's good as new.

Also, perhaps you Americans have dud hardware, everyone who I know doens't have a problem with their PS2's in vertical position unless they move it. Then there's trouble.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - bountyhunter - 7th September 2004

I play it on it's belly where it deserves to be, the PS2 was kind of a let down because half the stuff on it was just a redone version of whatever was on the PSX and the other half was either multi-consol or just a sequal to the first half of crap.. so.. yeah..

While carts and memory sticks might seem kinda crapy because of thier size keep in mind that they use a shit load less energy and you can write and read at the same time, not only that but you can read from multiple items on the cart/stick which will save on load times, and as we all know the thing that most annoyed us about the PSX was load times well, atleast it was with me. I imagine the PSP will have rather noticable load times because one of sony's smartest moves in saving power would be to use a less powerfull motor to spin the mini dvd's.

In any case I am willing to bet no matter what sony does the psp will have games come out for it that will use more and more power then the unit was first designed to use, by this I mean the psp wasn't meant to be played off a disk while all the while listening to mp3's and using the wifi card all at the same time, I can imagine this being too much strain on it's power supply, on that note nintendo's decision to use cart/memory stick isn't as stupid as you might think, the Snes had a number of upgrades in the form of addon chips for the carts, most notable are the mode7 chips (it was also a programing technique made by nintendo also attempted by sega once or twice) and some other chip I can't be bothered remembering, my friend was telling me about it the other day, mode7 I remember though because of the games were made with it.

The camera, shaking pinball thing, the light game about vampires, wireless pokemon and a bunch of other stupid things all do-able because of the use of carts, though I think sony has a plan for using memory sticks in it's psp as well or atleast an expansion slot.

If not I'm sure thier USB 2 port will be able to support some form of upgrade, most of all this is speculation but I can guarentee you that the DS will have the longest battery life and will for sure have the most interesting games, maybe not the most media intensive but for sure the most fun...... wait, armored core is coming to psp? I'm a little split now..

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 7th September 2004

oh yeah, like DJ's avatar really looks like a face

BLAH!

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - Sacred Jellybean - 7th September 2004

Quote:oh yeah, like DJ's avatar really looks like a face

He's got you there.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - A Black Falcon - 8th September 2004

It's kinda... squarish... kinda like a head... uh... yeah, that's it! :)

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 8th September 2004

DJ's avatar isn't really anything so it can pass as a face. But a picture of a bird holding a glass of beer on its beak with a town in the background would definitely not work as a head.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 8th September 2004

the bird has a face

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - OB1 - 9th September 2004

Yeah but the image is so small that it'd look really bad cropped and blown up.

Thanks Sony, now all you need to do is give up. - big guy - 9th September 2004

if you just don't care to put my face on the 90210 thing i'd understand. i mean, i'm a big guy, i can handle disappointment. but it seems to me that you're just making up excuses to not do it. BAD EXCUSES!!!

and if you really do feel the need to have a reason other than "i don't want to" you could just say something like "there aren't enough characters in the picture to include everyone!!"

to which i'd say "ok"

but you just keep saying my avatar's not good enough. which makes me sad. :(