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E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 From psp.ign.com: Quote: ![]() ![]() ![]() Alright, here's what I think of the system so far. On a technical level it's amazing. 10 hour battery life for games, an amazingly huge (for a handheld) 16x9 screen, a nice button layout (including what I think is an analog... nipple or stick or something), the design of the system is very sleek (much better-looking than the DS IMO), and the games announced so far sound really great. I'm just not quite as exited about it right now as I am for the DS since we haven't gotten a good look at any of the big games, which is what matters. All I know is that as long as the price is right, Sony could very well dominate the portable gaming market, or at least take a huge chunk out of it. I can't wait until it comes out next spring. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 11th May 2004 I wonder how much of a factor size will be? E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 11th May 2004 Two shoulder buttons -- any ports will have to change to adapt for four (from my best count, anyway...) fewer buttons. :) Oh, and I wonder if that is an analog ... something .... It could be, you're right, but I really don't know. It could just as easily be something else, I'd need more info and probably a better picture... As for the PSP, I'm sure it'll do well. Price is the one thing that might restrict its success. I'm sure the hardware will be normal Sony (not so great) quality, and the games will be ports and heavy on the not that good games, but it'll have more than enough to do well. If that 10 hour battery life is true then that'd be a huge plus for the thing, having battery life close to as long as the DS... it'd cut down that possible advantage, certainly. And Sony's advertising and current popularity will bring it success. It'll just be limited by what it costs... Now, DS vs PSP will be interesting. One much more powerful, the other much less, and one has a 1.8GB disk vs a 120MB card, but otherwise... both appear to have 8 buttons, though. And a D-Pad, with no obvious analog controls in either. But the PSP has ... whatever that thing is... and a bigger screen, while the DS has its touchscreen and microphone. Very different machines will make for an interesting competition. The biggest question right now is how much less the DS's $150 will be than the PSP. E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 You still haven't said anything about you being so totally wrong about the battery life and me being so totally right and so much better of a person than you are. :) E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 11th May 2004 See, I was more interested in analyzing the current situation... but I did mention it. Read my last post again, please. So I was wrong. So? I always thought the PSP would do well, if by Sony's marketing power and name alone... Sony may have issues, but they aren't totally stupid. That is also evidenced by the final design of the PSP -- that prototype was, IMO, really ugly and it appeared to have horrible ergonomics, while the final one is nice looking and seems fine... I thought they'd improve it, and they did. So the battery life is better. It means that the PSP drops one of its two biggest hurdles to success... and if Sony's willing to take a big hit, like they might, the price might even end up $200-250. At that point the DS would have serious competition... though because it's unique it'd certainly also have a place. But we will see. E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 You thought the battery life would be 3 hours, and I said no. Let me just have my moment of glory. I love proving you wrong. :) E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 11th May 2004 I wish I could say the same, but every time I do you refuse to admit it... E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 That's because they're always in your mind. This is objective fact. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 11th May 2004 We said a battery life of three [which was the PSP's reported battery life] would be a bad thing, you said a three hour battery life wouldn't be that bad. But, the battery life is 10 hours which is pretty good. E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 I said three would never happen, but that perhaps five could work but still doubted that was the real battery life. You guys = pwned :p E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 11th May 2004 :p I said that three hours would be bad, and it would be. You = Pwned E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 11th May 2004 Quote:That's because they're always in your mind. This is objective fact. It's this kind of extreme egotism that makes "arguing" with you so insufferable... okay, so that second part looks like an attempt at humor. But it's not funny when you act out exactly that in fact. Oh, and you must admit that those 3-hour things were based on rumors we'd heard. Which, as I recall saying many times, were all we had to go on... there'd been nothing to suggest the number would be any higher. If it were different, I wouldn't have taken the position I did, obviously... E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 I told you over and over that those were just rumors but you refused to listen to me. You said that it was probably true, and now that I've proven you wrong you can't admit how wrong and dumb you were. HOW TYPICAL. So sad... BTW that is an analog stick under the PSP dpad. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 11th May 2004 I don't know if 'stick' is correct... it doesn't look much like one... :) ... but it's some kind of analog device? I did expect one, really. It'd be pretty odd to make a system that powerful these days without one. E3: PSP - OB1 - 11th May 2004 It's confirmed to be an analogue joystick thingy. E3: PSP - geoboy - 12th May 2004 I've heard that the PSP will only last up to 10 hours when you use it as an MP3 player. When watching movies or playing games, it only lasts for 2.5 hours. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 I watched the conference and the guy stated that it's 10 hours for gameplay and music and 2.5 hours for movies. Some sites weren't sure what he said, but you can check it out yourself. E3: PSP - alien space marine - 12th May 2004 WOW! I want it! E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 Ahh... here's the exact facts. OB1, you were close... but not quite right. The final word? We still don't know. http://psp.ign.com/articles/513/513734p1.html Quote:E3 2004: Still No Battery Life Answers Given how for years everything I'd heard said 'like other similar portable entertainment devices', which meant 2-6 hours, 10 seemed higher than I expected for sure... this makes a lot more sense. It makes a lot of sense, actually. I believed the 10 because that's what you said they said, but this is much more in line with what I thought is possible... However, it will have 32MB of RAM in addition to the 4MB of DRAM. Fixing the one big hole in the thing, tech-wise... http://psp.ign.com/articles/513/513544p1.html E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 I seriously doubt it'll be 2-6 hours. We'll see. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 ... um, did you read that article? Do so. 3-6 hours was the estimate from last year's rumors. But this article is more specific -- anywhere between 2 1/2 and 10 1/2 hours. Great. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 The article is still just speculation as the guys at the press conference made their words sound a bit confusing. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 More than a bit, OB1... but yes, it is speculation... but it's informed speculation. They are basing it on facts. They know how long modern batteries last... and today nothing pushing power (and using that power) like the PSP could last 10 hours, I think, with the kind of battery it has. As they say, it might well get 8-10 for MP3s, but for games? That is very doubtful, since they'll be pushing the thing and draining its power... E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 12th May 2004 Quote:"So, what is the battery life going to be on PlayStation Portable? It will be on par with traditional handheld systems, or approximately 10 hours. It is comparable to an ATC [ATRAC] portable music player, or approximately 8 hours. Or, it will be comparable to portable DVD players, which, in many cases, is about 2 and a half hours. That doesn't fill me with a lot of hope. Seems like he's saying "It COULD be as much as high as 10 hours, but...*cough*It'sreallymorelike2andahalf*cough*. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 ABF, again you are making speculation sound like fact. The most power will be drained from UMDs spinning constantly, which is what UMD music discs and movies will do. Most games don't work that way. Like I said, wait and see. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 So you're saying that you know how the PSP's battery life will work out better than IGN PSP does? As for that, as the article says, many games these days stream. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 No, I'm saying that none of us know yet. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 You're only saying that because all of the evidence goes towards you being wrong. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 There's not a shred of evidence, only speculation. That is obviously something you cannot differentiate between. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 12th May 2004 So, it looks like waiting for E3 didn't do much to answer that particular question. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 Oh, it shed light on it all right. Not definite proof, but light. But OB1 is too stubborn to admit it. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 12th May 2004 That guy's statement didn't make any sense. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 12th May 2004 That's for sure... but I'd think that if it was definitely high he'd say so. Their analysis seems to make sense to me. E3: PSP - OB1 - 12th May 2004 No, because we still don't have all of the facts. There's a reason they were misleading with the battery life, perhaps because they're still working on that aspect. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 13th May 2004 Still, you gotta agree that the way he said was bizarre. E3: PSP - alien space marine - 13th May 2004 I use the Koran as Toilet paper, I rip off pages and start wiping. Doing my part to fight terrorism. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2004 GR, it wasn't bizarre, it was dodging the issue... :) E3: PSP - OB1 - 13th May 2004 Or misleading people so that they don't ask one thing until they've finalized all of the details. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2004 Um, OB1, it seemed to be DESIGNED to mislead, in one way or another... E3: PSP - OB1 - 13th May 2004 That's what I said... ![]() E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 13th May 2004 Quote:IGN: What's the battery life for DS? http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/515/515145p1.html Other interesting parts. Quote:IGN: What happened to Silicon Knights? Quote:IGN: What happened to Mario 128? Quote:IGN: Are you aware of the Reggie-lution? Quote:IGN: The codename Revolution implies a new way to play games. Can we safely assume that this will be the case? E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 14th May 2004 Quote:Perrin Kaplan: Very similar to the SP and I think very different from the PSP. I'm not quite sure why Sony said "Two to 10 hours" [for PSP's battery life]. That must mean that it's two hours. Hahaha! :D E3: PSP - OB1 - 14th May 2004 She knows as much about the battery life as we do, and it's her job to slam the competition. You shouldn't be at all surprised by that comment. E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 14th May 2004 Of course, I just think it's funny because I was thinking the same thing. If the battery life of the PSP is 2 hours they're in trouble, although I doubt very much that it will be. E3: PSP - alien space marine - 14th May 2004 2 hours is evil! E3: PSP - Great Rumbler - 14th May 2004 Yes, 2 hours IS evil. E3: PSP - alien space marine - 14th May 2004 They should offer a preperal , That is a cord that hook up to a power outlet like they have for Gameboy, So you dont have to use batteries 24/7,They could also have a hook up for the cigerette lighter things in cars like some cd players can hook up to it. E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 14th May 2004 ASM, it likely will have such a thing because it's a rechargable battery... they would be stupid to have to have it off while recharging. And if the battery life is closer to 2 hours than 10, it'd be a welcome feature... :) E3: PSP - Smoke - 14th May 2004 Glad to hear about the analog stick. That's one thing I think the Nintendo DS is sorely missing. D-pad is just no good for 3D games. But don't take my word for it. From PlanetGameCube: Quote:[size=2]The D-pad is slightly loose and much taller than the one on GBA SP, and it’s lacking the characteristic depression in the center of the cross. Playing a free-roaming game like Super Mario 64x4 feels stodgy with a digital D-pad, and it makes me wish Nintendo had included a small analog joystick in addition to the digital controls.He also went on to say how assy the shoulder buttons feel. Not good Nintendo. But I'm very sad to hear about the PSP's battery life. This is however not unexpected. The way Kaz phrased that leads me to believe he's covering something up as apposed to them just not knowing. [/size] E3: PSP - A Black Falcon - 14th May 2004 Yeah. Only someone as determined to not admit he was wrong as OB1 would say that it's anything other than Sony not wanting to admit the truth... okay, so maybe they're also hoping to improve it. But that isn't the whole story. But the analog stick... yes, a definite mistake on Nintendo's part. I don't know what they were thinking. |