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GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

No, I don't know what to believe... so I'll wait for further information. :) Well I do think that Metroid Prime 2 does exist, but don't know if it's for Cube or N5... Cube is probably the more likely of the two, though.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 16th January 2004

I think it's cube. It's so far in development that it'd be dumb to do it all over again for the N5. And it's not like the GC is dying right now like the N64 was when Dinosaur Planet was moved.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 16th January 2004

I think it'll probably come out on the Cube.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

Depends how long it takes them to finish... if they're timely it should be Cube.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 16th January 2004

I don't think Metroid Prime got delayed once, and that was the first game from a brand-new studio that had tons of problems early on. The engine is done, so two years should be plenty of time to make a sequel.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

Yeah, it wasn't delayed, I think, but to get that they cancelled like four games, had layoffs and hirings, etc... it wasn't pretty...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 16th January 2004

I just checked and I was right, Prime never got delayed.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

That's ignoring all the other things that happened during development, though...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 16th January 2004

Things which aren't likely to happen again I should think.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

Easily possible, which is why I'm not sure of the status of Raven Blade and MP2...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Dark Jaguar - 16th January 2004

I wasn't aware this rumor came about. Being one to ignore both these news sources, I'll think what I thought beforehand. By sheer coincidence, that'll be more in line with what Spong is "reporting".


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 16th January 2004

A Black Falcon Wrote:Easily possible, which is why I'm not sure of the status of Raven Blade and MP2...

I made a slight typo in my post. Read it again.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 16th January 2004

I don't get where the rumors about MP2 came from, but the game is almost certainly going to be for GameCube, and will probably be released by the end of the year. The Raven Blade rumors are interesting, though, but seeing the source of those rumors I don't lend them much credence.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

Nintendojo reported it too... oh wait I don't think too much of them either...

Quote:I made a slight typo in my post. Read it again.

Well I agreed with the way it was before, not how it is now. :)


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 16th January 2004

This is why we don't report on rumors at N-Philes. Sometimes you get lucky and they are right, but most of the time they are way off and it just makes you look stupid. Unless we have an insider source on a rumor we never report on them.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 16th January 2004

And now the retraction.
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=6001


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 17th January 2004

A Black Falcon Wrote:That's ignoring all the other things that happened during development, though...

That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about, which is Metroid Prime delays or if Retro can finish up MP2 in time. They're not having problems anymore, obviously.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 17th January 2004

The reason I don't think those problems will come up again is because the management before Nintendo bought them out was wasting money on parties and that was probably the main cause of people not wanting to try very hard [that and pressure from Nintendo], but MP proved that the could produce a very good game if they set their minds to it [a fact which no doubt raised moral a lot].


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 17th January 2004

True, the extremely high quality of Prime should help... but can they get Prime 2 out on time? I don't know, it still seems like a big task...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 17th January 2004

If they can build MP from scratch in about 3 years, they should be able to make MP2 in about 2 years.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 17th January 2004

Management before Nintendo bought them out? Didn't Nintendo start Retro from the ground up in 1998?


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 17th January 2004

Yes...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 17th January 2004

No, Nintendo bought them out fully around 2000, I think. Before then their CEO was spending a bunch of money throwing private parties at his house. Nintendo, it seems, didn't like that very much, so the bought up the rest of the stock and gave that guy the boot.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 17th January 2004

That might be right, but I know the company was founded based on a huge amount of money from Nintendo.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 18th January 2004

Quote:but I know the company was founded based on a huge amount of money from Nintendo.

That's probably true.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 18th January 2004

Yeah. It might have had its own CEO but it was never a independant company because Nintendo put up the money to start it, and has controlled it all the way...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - N_A - 18th January 2004

Ehhh.. the next Zelda game better be on the level of quality and difficult as Majora's Mask. WW was a totally dumbed down game.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 18th January 2004

Yes. I know I've complained a lot about MM, but if the alternative is WW...

I'll take MM. That game was annoying in its 'hurry hurry' style and challenge that came from that and the save situation, but when the alternative is a pathetically easy game like TWW, it makes MM look good...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 20th January 2004

WW was very easy, but I'd take it over MM any day of the week.

And why do you think it'll be so difficult for Retro to make another Metroid game using the Prime engine in two years? That's plenty of time.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

WW is too easy. And too tedious in parts. MM might be frusterating but tedious? Not really. At least a lot less than WW. :)

And okay maybe they can, but it's a Nintendo subsidiary so I won't expect on-time products. :)


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - Great Rumbler - 20th January 2004

Quote:but it's a Nintendo subsidiary so I won't expect on-time products.

Metroid Prime was on time.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 20th January 2004

The tiny bit of map searching at the end and the constant need to use the wand was a bit annoying, but definitely nowhere near as much as the tediousocity (I made that word up) of MM.

And Prime was on time. Which I already stated.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

Tiny bit? You spend hours looking for those idiotic triforce pieces and more getting enough money to pay off that idiot Tingle...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 20th January 2004

Wind Waker was easy, but I didn't find it too tedious. It reminded me a lot of Link to the Past because of the exploration aspects. I'd definitely pick it over Majora's Mask.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

It's funny, but it seems that with time MM seems better in my mind, but back when I was playing it it was so frusterating with the time limits and stuff... but when I think back I think on how it did have so many great parts... if only the time limit was longer it could have been the best Zelda game, I think...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 20th January 2004

"Hours"?? I spent no longer than half an hour at the end of the game searching for those maps and shards. It was nothing.

Derek knows what he's talking about. :D


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

Half an hour? But it takes way more time than that to just sail to the eight places where you have to find the eight map pieces that you have to find to be able to go to Tingle, much less figure out how to GET said pieces...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 20th January 2004

It was super easy...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

Some of them. But I got a couple and quit in annoyance so I'm not sure how long it takes overall...


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 20th January 2004

*tsk tsk tsk*


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 20th January 2004

Tedious and annoying (and unsure of how to get them) made me quit. And I'm not sorry. :D


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - The Former DMiller - 21st January 2004

You didn't finish the game?! You didn't get to see the best final boss battle ever in a Zelda game?! I have lost all respect for you!


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 21st January 2004

It was boring and tedious! It took me months to just force myself to finish the second Temple... then the next task is this. Argh.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 21st January 2004

Man, are you serious? Wow. You suck.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 21st January 2004

Not months as in "I was stuck for months", but as in "I got stuck, gave up for a while, and it took me quite some time to get myself to play again because it wasn't particularly fun"...

Oh, the only time I've died so far in the game is once in the boss of that temple (the sand worm thing), when I accidentally wasted my faerie (I have only one bottle) and didn't know what to do... the second time, though, I killed it.


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - OB1 - 21st January 2004

Hahaha.

*laughs at ABF's suckitude*


GC sales in Japan are way up, Xbox tied for last with PSX - A Black Falcon - 21st January 2004

That is just not true.