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The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 25th November 2003

We all hate them. Express why, or just make stupid childish jokes that we can all laugh at, or post pictures of penguins. It's up to you. I'll start.

Did you know that if you play a Microsoft cd backwards it has satanic sound clips? But that's nothing- if you play it forwards it installs Windows!


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 26th November 2003

This was my wallpaper for a while.

<a href="http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~karlb/tux/quake-tux.jpg"><img src= "http://hosted.tribalwar.com/linuxtribes/sm-tux-sit.jpg" alt="Click to blow me up!" /></a>


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Sacred Jellybean - 26th November 2003

My friends and I ordered that Penguin racing game recently.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Dark Jaguar - 26th November 2003

Microsoft ate my baby!

Microsoft once punched Miyamoto in the mouth!

Microsoft thinks guns make good children's toys!

How's that?


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 26th November 2003

Microsoft killed my wife and raped my daughter.

Besides that they took Bungie away from Mac development.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 26th November 2003

Hmm, guess nobody is just burning with hatred for them here. That's probably good, cause your clothes might catch on fire if you were. Har har har.

Anybody read User Friendly? It's a techy comic strip, and I'm reading all the really old ones from late 97. It's all full of Windows 95 jokes, which is cool.

General Protection Fault!!!


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - alien space marine - 27th November 2003

I wish they would split microsoft in half and make a new independant software OS corp to bring more compition.

I wish more game companies and software developers would support mac os and linux.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 27th November 2003

Well, the software isn't bugging me much anymore since because of OS X's BSD Unix base we are getting a lot more companies supporting the Mac. Games still aren't on par with Windows, though. I wonder what it would be like if Apple had become the monopoly and not Microsoft. I think it would be pretty much the same, but I don't think Microsoft would've survived like Apple has.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 27th November 2003

I don't like MS, but I have to live with it... *kicks stupid idiotic constantly messed up computer mentally off a cliff*

As for MS's apps, I think Internet Explorer stinks and is vastly inferior to Netscape, that Word is very hard to use and confusing and user-unintuitive and is vastly inferior to WordPerfect (finally I have a modern version, WordPerfect 10! Its great... but 6.1 is still solid and better than any version of Word. :)), and that I'd rather use TabWorks than the stupid Start Menu.

Oh yeah, and AIM is better than MSN Messenger. while MS has a decent game development group, its beaten by others in every category... Blizz and others in RTS, Totally Games in flight action/sim, Nintendo in platformers and stuff, many others in racing games, etc...

However, because of the fact that it runs so many more games and emulators than any other platform, its the best OS. I might wish I had WinXP instead of ME (though what I REALLY want is a dual-boot with '98 and XP so that I can still play those DOS games... I do play them sometimes and really appreciate how so many work flawlessly after I hear XP horror stories...), but still, I'll take ME over any non-MS OS.

As for Mac, I haven't used one since an early iMac, but nothing I've seen changes my opinion on them. :)


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 28th November 2003

Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
As for Mac, I haven't used one since an early iMac, but nothing I've seen changes my opinion on them. :)


Yeah, having a stable OS sure sucks. ;)


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 28th November 2003

MacOS has an annoying interface (in all the versions I used, anyway) where it's even harder to find things than it is in Windows and its got no software.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 28th November 2003

If by no software then you mean no games, then you're right. Otherwise, Macs have just as much good software as Windows.

As for the interface, I'm not sure if you've used OS X, but the great thing is how customizable the interface is. You can customize the Dock to do pretty much whatever you want, and from what I've heard 10.3 which was just released has much improved Finder browsing. Of course, if you are used to Windows OS X will take some getting used to, but I don't think it's any harder to use than Windows.

I'm not trying to convert you to Macs. I know you're a big PC gamer and there is no reason for you to switch to Macs if you want a really broad selection of games, but I just want to kind of shatter of few of the myths.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 28th November 2003

I haven't used X. I haven't used a Mac in several years... what I can remember included stuff like how the menus would only stay down if you held down your mouse button, idiotic one-button mice, no effective way to find programs (sure, I think the Start Menu stinks and isn't a very good way of finding programs, but at least its THERE...)...

The only OS that I've used at all recently other than Windows is Linux, which is an okay OS... if I didn't play games I might well use it. It's plain, but works well...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Dark Jaguar - 28th November 2003

ABF, you completely miss what the startmenu's listing of programs actually is. That's nothing more than a list of shortcuts. Further more, Windows itself is NOT creating those shortcuts. The programs themselves are. The shortcuts are nothing. That is to say, the program has nothing at all to do with the shortcut. The shortcut accesses the program, but not the other way around. To say the start menu is not a very effective way to find programs is truth enough, because that's not what it is for. The start menu, and this is very important, is only there to list stuff YOU put in there (whether you are aware of it or not) so you have a convenient box of stuff you want to have quick access to. You can shortcut to non-programs as well, though you probably know this. I myself have a shortcut to a folder on my desktop. Indeed, desktop shortcuts and start menu shorcuts are exactly the same with not a single difference in the history of the cosmos. Sorry for the extreme wording there, but I had to really punch it through to ya. It's merely a list of shortcuts to programs that you or a program itself puts there. It's not a directory windows itself updates or ever actually adds to. (There are exceptions to this, but let's say that this is an absolute, just like when teaching kids about math you have to start with false statements to work up to the big truths, like saying "0 is not a number".)


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 28th November 2003

Heh... guess I need to explain myself better. You seem to have no clue about what my issues with the Start Menu are.

Okay. Our first comp had DOS5/Win3.0 on it, so I started on Program Manager. It's a simple windows manager... has a screen, with folders (no folders-in-folders allowed). Then, after getting Win3.1, we got TabWorks, a program that at the time was published by Xerox. I've been using it as my main windows manager ever since, which means since probably 1995. When we got Win95 in '97 I just installed the Win95 version from the floppies for that version. :) I have gotten very used to it and wouldn't trade it for anything.

So... why do I like it? Good question. And why do I dislike the Start Menu?

Yes, yes, I know the Start Menu is just a bunch of links... but I have one fundamental complaint. I prefer a windows manager that stays open. The Start Menu closes when you use it. Also, its got very small icons... I prefer ones the size of standard Windows filesystem icons. I do organize my Start Menu periodically, just so that it doesn't get all bloated and unusable (so that no page has a list that goes over the edge of the screen like my Games and Demos sections would if I didn't divide them into categories...), but I don't actually use it... I vastly prefer TabWorks. Its got 'tabs' for various categories, and you can have any number of pages (full of links to files) in each tab. Now, I know -- I could just double-click on the Program Files link and run stuff through the windows filesystem. But darnit, I don't LIKE Internet Explorer... :D

I TabWorks into 12 tabs. They vary from 2 to 6 pages (note pages can scroll down any length (also note that one of the few features I wish Tabworks had was support for the mouse wheel))

Games Tab, page 1 Windows Games, page 2 DOS Shareware, page 3 DOS Full Games, page 4 Abandonware, page 5 Setup Files, page 6 Readmes and Uninstallers... :)

I just like to be able to look at a nice window that has the images for programs I could run... the Start Menu has those miniature icons and stuff, and closes if you click on anything! That is just something I inherently dislike.

Oh... there are effects of this. The biggest one is that I almost never look at my desktop... pretty much the only time I ever do is when my computer is either booting up or turning off or when something isn't working right and I've hit the 'Show Desktop' taskbar button. :) Also, I have to move around the files every time I install something, or click and drag (thankfully Tabworks supports dragging files from any open Windows folder into the app, upon which point it'll automatically plop a shortcut for the file into that page) I have to put them where I put stuff in that category, but I don't mind, and I'd have to do something like that anyway if I used the Start Menu...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 28th November 2003

Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
I haven't used X. I haven't used a Mac in several years... what I can remember included stuff like how the menus would only stay down if you held down your mouse button, idiotic one-button mice, no effective way to find programs (sure, I think the Start Menu stinks and isn't a very good way of finding programs, but at least its THERE...)...


This is what everyone says. I hate Macs, but I haven't used them in years. Do you think OS X is exactly like what you used on Macs years ago? And just because Macs come with one-button mice doesn't mean you're confined to them. Does everybody keep the mouse that comes with their computer? I currently have a 6-button Kensignton mouse with a scroll wheel. I installed it by plugging it into the USB port on my keyboard and it worked. I can right-click just like on a PC.

As for no effective way of finding programs, that is what I'm talking about with customization. I put my Applications folder in the Dock so I always have instant access to all of my applications. Same with my documents. I've included a picture of this setup since you haven't seen how the Dock works before. It's a pdf file zipped up since taking screenshots results in pdfs on my computer and I don't have Photoshop on this one to make it a jpeg.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 28th November 2003

Quote:This is what everyone says. I hate Macs, but I haven't used them in years. Do you think OS X is exactly like what you used on Macs years ago? And just because Macs come with one-button mice doesn't mean you're confined to them. Does everybody keep the mouse that comes with their computer? I currently have a 6-button Kensignton mouse with a scroll wheel. I installed it by plugging it into the USB port on my keyboard and it worked. I can right-click just like on a PC.

As for no effective way of finding programs, that is what I'm talking about with customization. I put my Applications folder in the Dock so I always have instant access to all of my applications. Same with my documents. I've included a picture of this setup since you haven't seen how the Dock works before. It's a pdf file zipped up since taking screenshots results in pdfs on my computer and I don't have Photoshop on this one to make it a jpeg.


On the surface that looks very similar to older MacOS, just with that sidebar on the left... and the list of applications there just looks like a alphabetized list. But I'm someone who likes to organize stuff into many different folders by category. And I like all the things of one type together... that list of yours there looks just like I think of a MacOS "windows manager" -- a list. Though it looks like you could do folders if you wanted... uh, I guess its acutally a folder on the HDD that you can manage or something like the Start Menu?

Oh, here's another TabWorks image.


... or do I just organize this stuff more than most people? :)

I do it with my Internet Bookmarks too...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Dark Jaguar - 28th November 2003

Ugh... pdf... how I hate them...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 28th November 2003

See, that's what I'm talking about. If I want it more organized I can. I've included a pic of what my Applications folder looks like organized. Yes, it is just a folder in the Finder, as you can see in my other pic, but that's how it is so customizable.

And if you had a chance to try out OS X you would see it is far from similar to previous Mac OSes. The big difference is it is based off of Unix which, if you're a big computer geek, means you can do a heck of a lot more with it. Everything a programmer could want is included including gcc, perl, java, tcl, php, python, and ruby. I could actually run my entire computer from the terminal if I wanted to. I like GUIs, though. :)


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

Done that way in the sidebar it looks just like the Start Menu... or you can open it as a folder, also like the Programs folder (though that doesn't have nearly as much in it as a Programs folder in Windows... do programs not auto-install stuff into it like they do in Windows? :))

Oh, so OSX has both a top bar (though since its a Mac the topbar changes into the program's menubar) and a side icons bar? Why? Needs more buttons? (and the idea of a bar anywhere but on the bottom of the screen is strange... I've seen people with their Windows taskbar on top of the screen and its odd...) Oh, one other thing I do is have autohide on. I think having to look at the taskbar all the time would be really annoying... and takes up valuable space on the screen...

Okay, so Mac has a somewhat improved way of dealing with that. That's good. It still doesn't look quite as good as even the Start Menu though.

... and I've never really liked Mac's style of those 'menubars with horizontal lines through them' thing. ... of course I think that XP's more 'fluid' style looks funny too. :D


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Dark Jaguar - 29th November 2003

I tend not to wanna waste too much resources on a fancy style, but that comes from me trying to get XP running smoothly on my slow machine. I'm sure there'd be no real slowdown issues now, but still I don't like being inefficient!


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

The only way I could get my comp to run decently would be to reformat the hard drive... but that's something that I just won't do given how much stuff I have installed on my comp. Re-installing everything (given that I find another harddrive to copy all the files on to so I don't lose anything, otherwise I'd never do it) would be such a huge pain...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 29th November 2003

Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
[B]Done that way in the sidebar it looks just like the Start Menu... or you can open it as a folder, also like the Programs folder (though that doesn't have nearly as much in it as a Programs folder in Windows... do programs not auto-install stuff into it like they do in Windows? :))

Most programs only install the program itself and that's it. Programs that install more usually install it in places where you don't have to worry about it.

Quote:Oh, so OSX has both a top bar (though since its a Mac the topbar changes into the program's menubar) and a side icons bar? Why? Needs more buttons? (and the idea of a bar anywhere but on the bottom of the screen is strange... I've seen people with their Windows taskbar on top of the screen and its odd...) Oh, one other thing I do is have autohide on. I think having to look at the taskbar all the time would be really annoying... and takes up valuable space on the screen...

The top bar does different things than the Dock. As you know, it changes depending on the program, but a lot of the stuff in it remains the same throughout many programs so it is easy to find commonly used things such as Copy and Save. And the Dock is by default at the bottom of the screen, but I like it better on the left. It does autohide so you don't have to worry about it taking up screen real estate.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

So if macs are so easy to use why does Apple make it so hard to actually find and organize a list of what programs you have on your system? Its really odd... I mean, do they think that people should have to go through their harddrive to find programs, or be forced to create the whole folder themselves? That is really stupid... unless I'm missing something... do programs you install even have a list of useful files (you know, like a Start Menu group) somewhere?

And none of that changes the fact that just like in Windows the default is a dissapearing menu on a bar... I just don't like that very much!


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 29th November 2003

The Applications folder is a built-in folder. All of the applications you install, by default, are installed to that folder. And navigating the harddrive is very easy. Everything you need is extremely accessible. Things aren't just thrown around like they were pre-OS X.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

Wow, Macs really don't have a real windows manager... just like DOS! :)

And Windows programs always want to install to the Program Files folder, but that doesn't help you find anything (if you're dumb and actually install everything to that folder especially) since it gets REALLY huge... I myself prefer the system I use, which involves installing most things to specific folders for that thing -- I have a directory for demos, DOS games, emulation, movies, etc... installing everything to Program Files would make for impossible confusion. I prefer to put things together, as opposed to all jumbled together. :)

And with a full-screen thing for choosing what you want, not a menu like Start.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 29th November 2003

Again, if I wanted to keep things better organized I could. Having everything installed in the Applications folder is easy for me. I know what program I want and since it's in alphabetical order I just scroll down to what I need. It is not as horribly disorganized as Windows program files folder. I think we just prefer accessing programs in different ways. I want something that takes up little screen real estate and will disappear when I don't need it. You want something that organizes things by specific categories and takes up the whole screen. Just different opinions I guess.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Weltall - 29th November 2003

Windows ME is garbage. Pure garbage. I'm glad I'm finally rid of it.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

I think that until I think how I can still play Quest for Glory or Duke Nukem with sound, something you just can't do in WinXP with sound... and as for dual-boot, it'd require making a small partition for the older one (Win98 maybe?). I'd need a bigger hard drive. So WinME may be the worst version of windows ever, but in my situation as it is I can't do anything about it...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 29th November 2003

It sounds like you really like your TabWorks program, but that is not part of Windows, it's just an app. You have to compare apples to apples.

ABF, the issue is control. With Windows, everything is done for you. Which is nice if you don't want to mess with it. But I want to know where stuff is. I want to have complete control over everything, and that is not something you get with Windows. It is, however, what you get with Linux, and since it's based on Unix, I would guess OS X would be the same.

I have heard nothing but fantastic things about OS X. I have fallen in love with Linux over the last year or so, so that is what I really want to learn and become proficcient with. But if that wasn't the case, I would much rather have a Mac than run Windows. XP is pretty darn good (stability-wise), but it still limits you sooo much in control.

You say Linux's X-Window system is blah, but I have seen desktops with a calendar, weather forecast, and mp3 player built in. I don't mean they are programs that sit on top of the desktop, they are embedded into your wallpaper. Think you can do that in Windows? And that's just a cute, little change. Everything in an OS like that is completely customizable. You just have to learn how.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 29th November 2003

Oh, and EVERYBODY should use <a href="http://openoffice.org">OpenOffice</a>. It's a completely free office package that replaces Word, Excel, and Powerpoint (and can of course read all those extensions), and it works great. So save a heck of a lot of money and make Bill Gates mad! :D


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

Quote: It sounds like you really like your TabWorks program, but that is not part of Windows, it's just an app. You have to compare apples to apples.

ABF, the issue is control. With Windows, everything is done for you. Which is nice if you don't want to mess with it. But I want to know where stuff is. I want to have complete control over everything, and that is not something you get with Windows. It is, however, what you get with Linux, and since it's based on Unix, I would guess OS X would be the same.

I have heard nothing but fantastic things about OS X. I have fallen in love with Linux over the last year or so, so that is what I really want to learn and become proficcient with. But if that wasn't the case, I would much rather have a Mac than run Windows. XP is pretty darn good (stability-wise), but it still limits you sooo much in control.

You say Linux's X-Window system is blah, but I have seen desktops with a calendar, weather forecast, and mp3 player built in. I don't mean they are programs that sit on top of the desktop, they are embedded into your wallpaper. Think you can do that in Windows? And that's just a cute, little change. Everything in an OS like that is completely customizable. You just have to learn how.


I know that I can't compare Tabworks to Mac... that's why I said that I dislike (or at least don't prefer) the Start Menu. :)

And as for customizability... where programs go of course is completely up to you, I've already said I have a system that definitely isn't the standard one. Same with the Start Menu... the way I have it organized is very different from the way it is by default. Yes, Windows doesn't have nearly as much customizability with the desktop and the contents of the taskbar and stuff, that is true... I've used Linux and yes, you can do all kinds of stuff to the desktop and taskbar. And eventually you well might get used to them and need them.

I did finally get used to the four quickstart buttons (between the system tray and the programs running section of the bar), though. I know I could get rid of it, but by the time I thought of that I was used to using them... (NS, Show Desktop, RealOne, and Winamp...). :)

Though, I don't think I completely understand what you mean by control... what do you mean 'I want to know where stuff is'? I assume you don't mean programs themselves, because obviously if you want to in Windows you can. Do you mean like the registry keys and files some programs put in various folders in the windows directory that programs often fail to delete when you uninstall them? Yes, that is a pain, and not one you can do much about...

'everything is done for you' in windows? Well yes, if you let it... but you can disable most of the things you don't like...


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Weltall - 29th November 2003

Most people LIKE that Windows does everything for you. Most people aren't going to care how they get their desktop weather forecast. What you always have to keep in mind is that the wants of the common, simple masses will always rule, and simple always rules them. Therefore, while Linux is infinitely customizable and far more efficient than Windows, there are really a small percentage of computer users who are willing to learn how to use it. Until, and unless Linux can couple it's customization with a system that even a dummy can master, Windows will always rule the roost, and that's not even taking into account how few Windows users even bother customizing what they can to begin with.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 29th November 2003

Windows has so many "features" that are completely useless at best and harmful at worst... Windows does all kinds of idiotic stuff that I don't like and find hard to turn off. I'm sure that once I learned it I'd probably like Linux better interface-wise... the applications part of course is where the problem is. :)


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 29th November 2003

Quote:Originally posted by Weltall
Most people LIKE that Windows does everything for you. Most people aren't going to care how they get their desktop weather forecast. What you always have to keep in mind is that the wants of the common, simple masses will always rule, and simple always rules them. Therefore, while Linux is infinitely customizable and far more efficient than Windows, there are really a small percentage of computer users who are willing to learn how to use it. Until, and unless Linux can couple it's customization with a system that even a dummy can master, Windows will always rule the roost, and that's not even taking into account how few Windows users even bother customizing what they can to begin with.


Yes, and that is, unfortunately Linux's main problem. I think, however, OS X is the best of both worlds. If you want it to do everything for you then you can let it, but if you want to mess with the guts and customize everything you can do that to.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 29th November 2003

I deleted my last post because I didn't make any point.

Yeah, Linux has a higher learning curve than Windows. But it's no more difficult than the what you've learned to get this far. It's just that this is as far as Microsoft lets you go, so most people call it "good enough". I want to go farther and learn more. I understand if other people don't. My parents just want a way to check their email and surf the internet. But the thing is, they could do that with Linux or with OS X, and do it just as easily.

The reason I talked about a desktop that has all that stuff built into it is because ABF said Linux was blah. You can do and change anything in the Linux GUI (called X Window) system. You can't do that in XP. You have to choose from one of 3 color schemes: Blue, Silver, or Olive Green (unless you buy an app like <a href="http://www.tgtsoft.com/download.php">Style XP</a>). That is boring.

Right now Linux is not the choice for people who can't do anything with computers. But all of you guys are far past that point. Linux is barely 12 years old, and growing like crazy. Currently the focus is to catch up to Microsoft in terms of apps, and they aren't focusing much on making it easier. But that will come soon, and then things might begin to change. I say "might" because I don't know if there will be a strong push to simplify Linux. That could be considered, among most of the hackers who have made Linux what it is, dumbing down and selling out. It's not a commercial product anyway, and anyone who tries to make money off it is usually looked down upon. But it is so nice to see something that is not just about money.

I'm not trying to say that nobody should use Windows. I use Windows at home and at school. Even my friends who wear Linux t-shirts and have been programming since they were 7 use Windows. I'm not trying to say that Windows is horrible. And I'm not trying to say that you are stupid if you use Windows. I am, however, trying to make it clear that Windows is not a quality product and you shouldn't complain about other operating systems like OS X or Linux just because you are unfamiliar with them. They are far superior products, and it's unfortunate that nobody seems to understand that.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 30th November 2003

Uhh... LL, I don't think anyone in this thread has anything substantive bad to say about Linux... I don't know what you're reading, but it sounds like you think that I dislike Linux or something, which is obviously wrong when you read what I said... its kind of confusing...

As for the GUI, I've used several things in Red Hat... KDE mostly I think. Its just bland compared to Windows, the way it's set up on my dad's computer at least... Windows adds all kinds of graphical touches that aren't in Linux. And I know I'd rather a smaller and less cluttered taskbar, but I'm sure that is customizable. :)

As for Linux for the masses... I'm not so sure. As you say, that would be completely against what the movement was for... though, it does seem to be moving that way on some front with stuff like Lindows. We'll see how far that gets... or if Linux starts to get many software ports.

And you know what? Windows does drive me nuts, and is definitely poor software, but it is the only way to do what I want to do with my computer. You cannot deny that. There is no alternative. So I'm stuck with it. As is anyone who plays games. So I've got to just make it work well enough for me to survive... at least long enough for me to get a big new harddrive and install a new copy of (some other version of) windows on it. Because man is the amount that this piece of junk messes up annoying... I have to tolerate the very high frusteration because I have no choice, but I really wish I could wipe the stupid thing and start in XP (with a bigger disk and a partition with 98 on it). I'm sure it would run a lot better... having to reinstall everything and mold XP to be the way I like it (like probably making it look like older versions of Windows and trying to get rid of all their stupid "helpful" stuff that does nothing...)

Hey, take System Restore. It is on by default in ME. I tried to use it twice... couldn't get the stupid thing to work, either saving a restore point or restoring one. And it kept taking up dozens of megs of HDD space, over 100 sometimes... so I tried to disable it but helpful Windows keeps turning it back on. At this point I just have it set so it can't exceed 5mb, which effectively has killed it... useless thing doesn't work when I need it so why let it waste my HDD space, but I can't turn it all the way off. Thanks, Microsoft!

Sure, I'd have to reinstall everything (though I would have copied all the files onto another hdd so I wouldn't lose anything), but that would be worth getting rid of the constant crashes and memory leakage and harddrive space that "isn't there" when I know it is and messing up programs and all the rest that it does so much...

But none of that is likely soon. :(


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Weltall - 30th November 2003

You complain about clutter when you have 800x600 resolution?

Unless you happen to be stuck with the world's worst video card, I don't feel sorry for you.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - A Black Falcon - 30th November 2003

Confused

Uhh, what does that have to do with anything I've said here? I don't know what you are talking about there, but on that topic (resolution) I happen to like 800x600. In 1024x768 everything is just too small...

Screen clutter? Huh? Okay, so half the taskbar is taken up by systray icons and the four quicklink buttons and the thing only holds three full-sized running program buttons before they start shrinking. Oh well, I don't mind. Other than that I can't think of any problems... well, except for how I did have to break up several folders in the Start Menu because they had more than two full columns and some of the folders weren't displayed on the screen. :)

Anyway, that has nothing to do with this thread, and I don't know where you got that from.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Weltall - 30th November 2003

...

Actually, come to think of it, I don't know where I'm coming from either. Such a disorienting thing this is Mad

I think it just stems from me having this uncontrollable urge to make fun of 800x600 users since I have to compromise my artistic vision for the likes of them when I make designs for the forums.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Great Rumbler - 30th November 2003

1024x768 rulz joor boxorz.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - Laser Link - 30th November 2003

The reason Linux or OS X are far superior to WIndows: Because you can write a shell script with this in it.

Dang Windows doesn't even know what a shell script is.

I would have guessed this code would be on a Linux site, but in fact I found it on an OS X forum. So a thumbs up to Mac geeks for that.


The Anti-Microsoft Thread - The Former DMiller - 30th November 2003

OS X Hints is full of useful stuff. I check it just about everyday to see if there is something I can use or want to fool around with. That's the kind of stuff that the normal user would never bother with, but I love that it's there.