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Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 13th October 2003
From the dojo:
Quote:According to various EB retailers across the globe who've reportedly been tipped off by the Big N, Nintendo is poised to make a major announcment in February regarding a major product they plan to launch in time for Christmas of 2004. Word on the street is that this new item will either be their next Game Boy, to go head to head with Sony's PSP, or something else altogether (NOT the N5). (wj)
Source: Electronics Boutique
Hopefully it'll be their next Gameboy and not just some multiplayer version of Space Invaders or something like that.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Great Rumbler - 13th October 2003
Quote:tEH meGAton RETURNS!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 13th October 2003
They were telling the truth about Megaton... we just all thought that they meant LAST year! :D
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Dark Jaguar - 13th October 2003
Let's just totally ignore it this time. Not only will that mean we won't be acting like idiots, but if it actually exists and is totally amazing, it'll be like a bomb going off in our emotional systems!
Anyway, Space Invaders IS multiplayer. Well, alternating anyway.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 13th October 2003
Never! We've got to make a huge countdown and get all hyped up and then have it be the announcement that its an add-on for that pokemon box thing that adds ... uhh, who knows... a new background color and stickers you can print with a Game Boy Printer? :D
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 13th October 2003
You know what? I wouldn't even be a tiny bit surprised if that was Nintendo's big surprise that Iwata spoke of.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - The Former DMiller - 13th October 2003
We already knew Nintendo had a big announcement brewing for early next year, and everyone is assuming it's the next Game Boy. And mentioning the M-word on any Nintendo forum should be considered treasonous.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 13th October 2003
Oh we THINK we know... but this is Nintendo, remember. We don't know anything. :)
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Laser Link - 13th October 2003
Hahahaha. I think "Megaton" is one of my favorite words ever. It just makes me laugh.
And I will cry all night long if they do unveil a new GameBoy and it is 3D.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 13th October 2003
Yeah, it'll be sad if 2D gaming dies off with the next Nintendo handheld.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - The Former DMiller - 13th October 2003
I think we all know that the next Game Boy will be designed for 3D graphics. Nintendo wouldn't stand a chance against the PSP if they didn't do that. It will really be sad to see 2D gaming pretty much die, but we all knew it would come eventually. Maybe Nintendo can throw us a bone every once in a while and release some cool 2D games for their new handheld.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 13th October 2003
Well Intelligent Systems seems to love their 2D games so hopefully they'll stick to that for a while, although I would love to see a 3D Fire Emblem or Advance Wars from them.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Weltall - 14th October 2003
ANOTHER Game Boy? You WANT that? I just spent a hundred bucks on the SP! I don't want to have to buy ANOTHER one!
Seriously, Nintendo should just start numbering them like damn sports games already.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Dark Jaguar - 14th October 2003
It would only be the 4th generation. The SP is just a remodel, not a new system completely.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
Nintendo needs a new handheld to compete with the PSP.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - The Former DMiller - 14th October 2003
Quote:Originally posted by Weltall
ANOTHER Game Boy? You WANT that? I just spent a hundred bucks on the SP! I don't want to have to buy ANOTHER one!
Seriously, Nintendo should just start numbering them like damn sports games already.
I got my SP for free from Nintendo so it doesn't bother me. :p
Anyway, Nintendo has to release a new handheld by Christmas 2004 when the PSP will probably be released. They cannot give Sony much of a headstart otherwise we might have a PSX vs. N64 situation.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003
Oh, early '05 would be just fine... the GBA should have more than enough momentum and not everyone will jump for the PSP right off the bat. Not with its drawbacks, especially price... Nintendo has plenty of time.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
Quote:Oh, early '05 would be just fine... the GBA should have more than enough momentum and not everyone will jump for the PSP right off the bat. Not with its drawbacks, especially price... Nintendo has plenty of time.
Yeah, especially price! Now what was that number that Sony gave us for the PSP again? .... Oh that's right, they haven't announced a price yet.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003
There's no way in the world it'll be under $300...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
Probably not, but if the next Gameboy is $200 and the PSP is $300, most people will look at the fact that the PSP can play movies and music and will think of the extra $100 as a pretty good deal. It worked with the PS2 and X-Box... although that of course depends on how they're going to handle movies for the system. It won't play regular DVDs and the discs won't be recordable, so it'll be interesting to see what Sony does.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003
Exactly, its not a popular format like the DVD is so that somewhat negates that plus... not completely, but somewhat. Having to buy movies AGAIN will not go over well. And MP3s? If you can't record to the cartridge, not many people will care.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Great Rumbler - 14th October 2003
Quote:It won't play regular DVDs and the discs won't be recordable, so it'll be interesting to see what Sony does.
I don't think many people will buy it because of that feature. Buying movies on again and only being able to play them on the PSP and with a small screen isn't going to turn people on to it.
Quote:And MP3s?
They'll probably do that either the same as the N-Gage where you can transfer MP3s off your computer and onto a memory card, but that will me buying extra memory cards just for your music. Again, not something that will turn people onto it, I think.
Quote:but if the next Gameboy is $200
I'm going to go out on a limb here and with no basis at all say that the next GBA will be $150 or less. But, we shall see.
Quote:There's no way in the world it'll be under $300...
It MIGHT go as low as $200, but I think $300 is a much closer estimate.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
Quote:Exactly, its not a popular format like the DVD is so that somewhat negates that plus... not completely, but somewhat. Having to buy movies AGAIN will not go over well. And MP3s? If you can't record to the cartridge, not many people will care.
Well so far we know very little about how it's all going to work, so let's wait until we do before we continue this discussion.
Quote:I don't think many people will buy it because of that feature. Buying movies on again and only being able to play them on the PSP and with a small screen isn't going to turn people on to it.
The screen size won't be an issue. If you can play complex 3D games on a screen that size then you can certainly watch movies on it. But like I said above, let's wait until we find out more about how watching movies on the PSP is going to work before we continue this.
Quote:They'll probably do that either the same as the N-Gage where you can transfer MP3s off your computer and onto a memory card, but that will me buying extra memory cards just for your music. Again, not something that will turn people onto it, I think.
Not if Sony uses their widely-used memory sticks. People already use them for digital cameras and mp3 players, so it wouldn't be like having to buy a brand-new type of memory stick that will only work with one device. The lower-memory sticks are also pretty cheap.
Quote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and with no basis at all say that the next GBA will be $150 or less. But, we shall see.
I sincerely hope you're wrong, because that would most likely mean that Nintendo would be sticking to cheap parts (i.e. carts) and it wouldn't be as powerful as the PSP.
Quote:It MIGHT go as low as $200, but I think $300 is a much closer estimate.
Probably.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003
Quote:Well so far we know very little about how it's all going to work, so let's wait until we do before we continue this discussion.
Good idea, but I think I'll be right. :D
Quote:I sincerely hope you're wrong, because that would most likely mean that Nintendo would be sticking to cheap parts (i.e. carts) and it wouldn't be as powerful as the PSP.
They want it cheaper, but not so much less powerful that it won't compete...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
Quote:Good idea, but I think I'll be right.
You wouldn't be ABF if you didn't think crazy things.
Quote:They want it cheaper, but not so much less powerful that it won't compete...
We'll see...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003
Has anyone used those portable LCD screens like the have for GameCube. I've seen them in action a few times, and I thought it was way too hard to see anything. I wonder if that will be an issue with these handhelds. I say we stick with 2D. :)
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 14th October 2003
I heard that the official Nintendo one was excellent.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003
Quote:You wouldn't be ABF if you didn't think crazy things.
We will see, we will see... :)
And what would be the sense in making a console that is way behind technologically and has no hope of success? That'd be stupid... Nintendo wouldn't do that.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
*cough*carts*cough*1.5GBdiscs*cough*
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
That is not a major technological disadvantage, I'd say.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - Great Rumbler - 15th October 2003
Yeah, it's not a particularly major dissadvantage, but they still should use full-sized DVDs or some kind of high-density small DVDs that have a similar amount of space with their next console.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
Carts weren't a major technological advantage, you say?? I know a few Squaresoft employees that might disagree with you there, bubba.
The GC discs aren't nearly as much of a setback as the N64 carts, but it did result in crappier third-party ports.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
Quote:Originally posted by OB1
Carts weren't a major technological advantage, you say?? I know a few Squaresoft employees that might disagree with you there, bubba.
The GC discs aren't nearly as much of a setback as the N64 carts, but it did result in crappier third-party ports.
There is more than a little bit of difference between a 8-64MB N64 cart vs a CD that can hold up to 700MB and a GC disc that holds 1.5GB vs others that hold 4.5...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
Gee wiz, genius, perhaps that's why I added "The GC discs aren't nearly as much of a setback as the N64 carts". Guess that just flew right past you, huh?
And it's 1.5 GB vs. 9 GB, actually. All X-Box discs are DVD-9's and some PS2 discs are as well.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
I somehow doubt that many are actually 9gb games, though... and still, that's just 2-6x larger vs 10+x for the N64...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
It has greatly affected the FMV and sound quality of many third-party ports for the 'cube.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
Nothing I would have noticed, though... :)
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
How many third-party games did you get? Try playing all three versions of SSX Tricky and you'll see a huge difference in sound and FMV quality between the GC version and the other two.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
Like half of my games are third-party... lets see... I have 14 games and the demodisc.
1st/2nd/Exclusive- Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Wave Race, Eternal Darkness, F-Zero, Rogue Leader, SSB:M.
3rd-Sonic Adventure 2, Skies of Arcadia, Capcom Vs SNK 2, Extreme-G 3, Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, Burnout, and the demodisc.
Oh, and with just the sound coming from the TV, and not speakers, would you notice a sound difference?
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
None of those games had any of those problems. And no, you wouldn't notice a major difference with regular tv speakers. You would notice the different in FMV quality, though.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
None of them are very FMV-heavy... BG:DA has a few, but that's about it.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
Well, it's still unfortunate that Nintendo never quite keeps up with the competition when it comes to storage medium.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
Nah, I have no problem with the GC's format. N64, yes, that was too much smaller than the competition... though I fully understand why Nintendo went with carts. CDs weren't fully proven yet, after all... and load times back then were awful...
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 15th October 2003
And that great decision made them fall far behind Sony.
The GC discs are much much better, but several third-party ports are lesser because of space issues.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003
So? Who cares about mediocre multiplatform games, anyway?
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 16th October 2003
Nintendo should, that's who. They almost always get the worst third-party ports, and that's not a good thing.
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 16th October 2003
Sure, but that's minor stuff... not very important IMO. And I like GC discs... :)
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 16th October 2003
Oh sure, it's extremely minor. So minor that PS2 and X-Box versions of multiplatform games almost always outsell their Gamecube counterparts because the GC has such a bad reputation with multiplatform games, and it's one of the many reasons why Nintendo is #3. Yup, that's minor alright!
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - A Black Falcon - 16th October 2003
Soul Calibur 2. :)
Just when you thought you were safe from its terror... tEH MeGAton RETURNS!!!! - OB1 - 16th October 2003
The one multiplatform game that has sold better on the GC. Yipee.