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Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 5th October 2003

They are competent some of the time... its just not enough. They don't blow up every game... but they will with unpleasant regularity. :(

Oh, and Cubs-Red Sox would be strange... I don't know what I'd do if we actually won... its kind of hard to imagine...


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 6th October 2003

THe A's got robbed in Game 3 with those interference calls, and the Bronocs lost because of 2 clips the refs missed on Dante Hall's 97 yard punt return. And that was right after Deltha Oneal returned a punt for a Bronco touchdown- but it was called back for holding. And these weren't clips 20 yards away from the play- they both were right at the goal line and enable Hall to reverse direction and go back up the left sideline.

Thus ends my weekly ref/ump rant. I know it can't change anything and it's just part of the game, but it makes me feel better.

And the Chargers are now the only 0-5 team in the NFL!!!


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 6th October 2003

Wow, and there were some horrible calls in the MNF game tonight as well. First a phantom "Running into the punter" that gave Tampa another chance in OT, and then a leaping penalty that gave the Colts a second chance aafter Vandejagt missed the game winning kick. And he almost missed on the second try, but it went in off the post. I've seen them call a guy for pushing off his teamates or jumping over the line on a field goal, but the Buc player went straight up and down.

It's too bad such an amazing game had to be won and lost by the zebras.

And the BoSox won. One step closer to that fabled Cubs-Red Sox series. That would be amazing, but also horrible. One of the teams would have to lose, and the rest of us would NEVER hear the end of the whining. ;)


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 6th October 2003

The Colts were pretty lucky with that final field goal as well. If you looked closely a Buc tipped the ball back towards the goal post. If the ball wasn't touched it would have been way right. There were some horrible calls in that game, but still the Bucs have too good a defense to let that kind of comeback happen. I was shocked.

Anyway, the Cubs/Red Sox series would mean the end of human existence. Armageddon isn't far now my friends so you'd better go to confession.


Wohoo!!!! - alien space marine - 7th October 2003

Red soxs rule!

Whoops wrong thread!


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 7th October 2003

YES!!! I watched the game yesterday on Fox... must they keep doing this to us? One more game like that and everyone in New England will be nervous wrecks... four of the five games in this series have had dramatic stuff happening in the last inning! Four close games, two of them extra innings... I'm thrilled that we won, but they've got to stop doing this! Its really bad on the health... :)

Oh yeah, and the A's weren't robbed by those calls that let the Sox win that extra-innings 3-1 victory. The A's were just really stupid... four errors? Two major baserunning mistakes? :)


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 7th October 2003

I called the Sosa shot, but I was hoping the guy before him would get on base too so they would win and not just tie it up. See what happens when you go to extras? :(


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 7th October 2003

Stupid Marlins...

But since it wasn't the Red Sox I wasn't in the same state as last night... or that whole stupid series... :)


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 8th October 2003

I'm not too worried for two reasons: Prior and Wood. They will be pitching 4 games in this series. :D


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 8th October 2003

True, that should give the Cubs a good chance. Still, blowing game 1 at home is never good...


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 8th October 2003

Cubs and Red Sox win! Not surprisingly Mark Prior dominated the Marlins. Surprinsingly the Cubs had another big offensive game. Sammy Sosa hit one of the longest homeruns I've seen hit at Wrigley. I had never seen a ball hit over the camera well in center field before. Anyway, Kerry Wood is up for Game 3 on Friday. Go Cubs and go Sox!


Wohoo!!!! - Fittisize - 8th October 2003

I can't believe the Cubs. Yesterday they hit their most important homerun in franchise HISTORY and they still manage to lose the game. And today they stomp all over the Marlins by 9 runs. Yeesh. It's gonna be an interesting finish.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 8th October 2003

Darn Red Sox! They're making me believe again...


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 8th October 2003

Hooray for knuckleballers! I've always had an obsession with knuckeballs, and I can throw a decent one myself. Well decent might be too much. It doesn't spin, which is good, but it doesn't move at all. It just sorta floats there screaming "HIT ME!"


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 9th October 2003

Yeah, that knuckleball you have sounds more like a homerun ball, LL. :)


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 9th October 2003

Yes, his knuckleball was working great tonight... sometimes it doesn't and he gets hit hard, but usually its good. Yesterday it was. :)


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 10th October 2003

Cubs win! Cubs win! Tonight's game was incredible. Even better than Game 1 because this time the Cubs won. Doug Glanville drove in the game-winning run with a triple in the 11th, but he wouldn't have had the chance if Randall Simon hadn't given the Cubs the lead in the 8th. There were so many tough spots in this game that the Cubs squeaked out of, and it ended on a weird play with Luis Castillo getting caught in a rundown. Whew! What a game!


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 11th October 2003

I watched part of the game and yeah... another great game. Close, exciting, extra innings... this really has been an amazing postseason...


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 11th October 2003

Cubs win again in a game that was much more relaxing after yesterday's nail-biter. If the Cubs win tomorrow they'll clinch, but I'm not banking on that especially considering how Carlos Zambrano has pitched recently. If they don't win tomorrow, though, Prior should wrap things up on Tuesday.

Anyway, I also watched most of the Sox/Yankees game before and that was getting pretty ugly. I kind of felt sorry for Zimmer when Pedro slammed him to the ground, but he was kind of asking for it running at Pedro like that. I'm still wondering what happened with that situation in the Yankee's pen. Last I heard it was a Sox groundskeeper who instigated the Yankee players. Too bad the Sox lost, but it was an interesting game.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 11th October 2003

Zimmer had yelled at Pedro before because of what Pedro did, then in the brawl went straight to him and threw a punch. He deserved it.

And I bet the Yankees win... :(

Though, the Cubs look like they well might make it in. 3-1 is a pretty solid lead... amazing...


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 13th October 2003

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2003/columns/story?columnist=caple_jim&id=1636859 :D

And even better... http://espn.go.com/page2/s/murphy/031013.html

Stupid lying Yankee bullpen pitchers might get arrested... :)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2003/news/story?id=1636928

Quite a game, game 3...


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 13th October 2003

Yeah, that opening line by Jim Caple is great! He's very funny. I didn't see any of the game cause I was out of town this weekend, but it sounds like it was quite entertaining. The good news is that Tim Wakefield was the man again and it's all tied up! Knuckleballers rule!!!


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 13th October 2003

Time Wakefield is really getting it done for the Sox. I got a little worried when Rivera hit that homerun in the 9th, but luckily it didn't lead to a run by the Yankees. I would be sorely disappointed if this series went any less than 7 games because we've seen some great games so far.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003

Wakefield has pitched great in the ALCS. He's usually either good or bad -- not much in between. He's a knuckleball pitcher, so when its not on he doesn't do well... we've been lucky that he's been on for both games in the ALCS. :) He's been with the Sox for a long time (longest on the team... '95 I think?) and has never been better. :)


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 14th October 2003

Anyone who watched the Cubs game tonight has now seen the Cubs Curse in full affect. The Cubs don't just lose, they lose in the most dramatic, fall-apart-at-the-seams way possible. I can't really blame that fan who tried to catch the foul ball. He was just a tool of the evil billy goat that has haunted Wrigley Field since 1945. I am very worried about tomorrow's game. Kerry Wood has been clutch lately, but Mark Prior had been too until tonight's debacle.

In other news, the Yankees won again. Mad


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003

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Wohoo!!!! - Fittisize - 14th October 2003

The Yankees won today 'cause they are the best team in Major League Baseball. Not that I like it, but that's just the way it is.

Hah, Moises looked pretty mad when the fan got the ball. :) Yeesh, what I find dumb is that the Chicago FANS were booing Moises, a clutch player and a CUB. Fans like that don't deserve a baseball team.

............j/k. Chuckle

Yankees will likely win the series. Again. Oh well, it's all up to the Expos next year. Hopefully they have a relatively injury free season (last season, maybe? I dunno, they keep saying they are gonna move).


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 14th October 2003

I don't totally blame that fan. He was just a tool of the billy goat. He's lucky security escorted him out at the end of the game, though.


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 14th October 2003

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Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003

I have a feeling the fans were booing the other fan who touched the ball, not Alou. I sure was. I know he got caught up in the moment, and there is the goat to be considered, but you gotta know what is happening during that play and understand that your team needs this out more than you need the ball. Of course ithe loss is not totally his fault, and Gonzalez sure didn't help, but even with the Gonzalez error only 2 runs would have scored that inning if Alou had made the catch. Only 1 would have scored on Lee's double, making it 3-2, and the next hit was a sac fly that would have been the 3rd out.

Somebody needs to call the Ghostbusters and get rid of this bitter goat and his owner.


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003

Hahaha. That's hilarious Derek. In a sick and twisted sort of way. And it really is a good thing for him that security escorted him out, because I'm sure enough people saw his face on the big screen that he would be in a lot of trouble if he was alone.


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 14th October 2003

Seeing as there is no big screen at Wrigley I doubt many people knew what he looked like. I'd just be worried about the people around him who saw what happened up close.


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003

Really, Wrigley doesn't have a big screen? I know Wrigley is old and even the lights are still a relatively new thing, but I figured every stadium did by now. My bad.


Wohoo!!!! - Laser Link - 14th October 2003

Hopefully this flash movie will make you laugh and ease the pain. But how do they make these things so quick? And here's another.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 14th October 2003

No big screen? Really? Wow... even Fenway has a big screen! Sure, you can't see it from all the seats, but you can from most of them...

Oh, and the Cubs' curse is somewhat different from the Red Sox. The Sox are cursed to blow it at the last, worst possible, moment... like losing four straight World Series game 7's ('46, '67, '75, '86)... the Cubs are usually just bad. :)

Oh yeah, the Yankees win. It'll be near-impossible to take two straight in Yankee Stadium...

And how about game 6? Andy Pettite vs. John Burkett is a ... interesting ... matchup...


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 15th October 2003

The Cubs curse is different because it doesn't allow the Cubs to even get to the World Series. The Sox are allowed to get there, but they just can't win it. People in Chicago are already referring to yesterday's incident as the Inning. Hopefully we won't have to refer to it like that anymore if the Cubs win today.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003

Yeah, the Cubs usually don't get this far... I hope they win, though. I really don't want to see Yankees-Marlins...


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 15th October 2003

They had a pretty good Page 2 story about the situation at ESPN's Page 2. I suggest you all check it out. Anyway, back to the Red Sox/Yankees game. Former Cub Felix Heredia just walked in the go-ahead run for the Sox.


Wohoo!!!! - Great Rumbler - 15th October 2003

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:D


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 15th October 2003

Steve Bartman, 26
Northbrook, IL


Wohoo!!!! - Fittisize - 15th October 2003

Ha ha ha ha....

:D

Now now, don't do something that an angry soccer fan might do....


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003

Why is that picture funny?

Poor Cubs... they can't catch a break. Blowing a 3-1 lead, losing twice at home with two of the best pitchers in the league... now THAT'S choking. :(

But on the bright side, the Sox won! Yeah! Game 7 tomorrow. Pedro vs Clemens, round two... I can't wait. :D


Wohoo!!!! - Great Rumbler - 15th October 2003

Quote:Why is that picture funny?

Because the guy that the arrow is pointing to single-handedly caused his team to lose game #6 of the playoffs. Well, maybe not, but that's the way people will remember him.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 15th October 2003

I'd call that a lot more tragic than funny.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 17th October 2003

All I will say is that that stunk. Really, really badly. Nothing else I'm thinking is something I'd say out loud...

Okay, I can think of one thing that I can say. Fire Grady Little. NOW. That idiot lost us the game, blew our chance to beat the Yankees... he lost the biggest Red Sox game since the '86 series and there is NO WAY he should have his option picked up. Kick him out the door now. Idiot...

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/simmons/031017.html


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 17th October 2003

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No, I haven't really calmed down yet. I hate the Yankees SO MUCH!!!


Wohoo!!!! - Great Rumbler - 17th October 2003

I hope the Marlins win.


Wohoo!!!! - A Black Falcon - 17th October 2003

I hate them both. Stupid Marlins have stupid Jeffery Loria, the guy who destroyed the Expos... I GUESS I have to root for them, but I hate that team...


Wohoo!!!! - Great Rumbler - 18th October 2003

The Marlins have Ivan Rodriguez, though, that's why I hope they win. Texas made a very stupid move by getting rid of him.


Wohoo!!!! - The Former DMiller - 18th October 2003

There's a good article at the Chicago Tribune about how kids are taking their first Cubs' disappointment. I know most of you won't sign up for the free username so here is the article:

Quote:On the morning after, Garrett Mintz exhaled deeply and spoke about one of the worst things that had ever happened in his 11 years.

"The Marlins didn't win it; we lost it," he said tersely. "It was just too painful ... it got to the point that I just stopped watching."

This week, the Flossmoor boy got a little lesson about life: The best don't always win. There is no such thing as a lock. And when the going gets tough, the tough hit the remote.

All across the metropolitan area, baseball's youngest fans grappled with lessons learned from this improbable Chicago Cubs season. As a group, they are the fans most capable of throwing themselves headlong into a season like this.

Homework assignments will finally get completed and bedtimes will return to normal, but not until a new generation fully processes this latest heartache.

Despite the disappointing outcome, being immersed in a historic run for the pennant "offers the lesson of life," said Dr. Karen Pierce, a child psychiatrist at Children's Memorial Hospital, "that things don't always go your way, and, at the end of the day, you move on. It says, `Enjoy the ride ... but recognize that all rides end.'"

And no one is immune.

"I have an 11-year-old son who had probably his biggest disappointment in life thus far last night," said U.S. Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Ill.), in Washington. "He was crying when he went to bed, and I guess that's what it means to grow up a Cubs fan."

Mike Royko, the late Tribune columnist, once observed: "I always believed that being a Cubs fan built strong character. It taught a person that if you try hard enough and long enough, you'll still lose. And that's the story of life."

Eric Samuels, 12, had been warned of this. His father and others had taken the Wilmette lad aside, explaining the facts of Cubs fan life circa 1969, 1984, 1989 and 1998.

"They told me, `It can be really bad, but you'll get over it.' But it was so much worse ... because of the way it happened," he said.

Blair Fischer of Chicago found herself "spacing out" during math class Thursday. "I kept thinking about ways they could have won," said Blair, 11, who first went to Wrigley Field in utero and was on hand for the season-ending game Wednesday night.

Teachers and parents acknowledged that, at least in junior high hallways, a melancholy air was pervasive Thursday.

But they also say that they expect the blues to be short-lived.

"Sure, it hurts today, but in no time at all, they'll be on to the next thing," said Linda Cosby, a mother of two die-hard fans, ages 12 and 16. "By tomorrow, they'll be talking about, `Who should the Cubs keep? Who should they trade? When does spring training start?'"

Even without a World Series berth, the postseason offers a smorgasbord of teachable moments, from enforcing the concept of good sportsmanship to recovering from an error.

"It really doesn't matter how it ends," Pierce said. She recalled Cubs players making errors, but not letting that get them down.

"[They] just make the next play. You can't believe how unbelievably helpful it is for kids to see that. That's the kind of lesson that lasts longer than just one season," she said.

Garrett Mintz, Eric Samuels and their contemporaries are at a critical juncture of fandom--old enough to appreciate the complexities of the game, but not yet jaded by labor disputes, salary demands and off-the-field exploits of star athletes.

Win or lose, being a pre-teen and surrendering your heart carries implications that will undoubtedly shape them in ways they don't even know.

"When you go through a series like this--with all its highs and lows--you become even more attached to the team, because you've had such an emotional experience with them," said David Gottlieb, a south suburban child psychologist. "You'll think about this particular ball club for years to come."

And even though the long-woebegone Cubs didn't win the pennant, they were still one of only four teams to make it that far in the playoffs--a powerful transformation to kids struggling with self-image.

"We all have ways of conceptualizing ourselves," said Dr. Tom Owley, a child psychiatrist at the University of Chicago. "If the Cubs can shed the `Lovable Losers' label, that can tell kids out there that they can too ... and change the way they think of themselves."

Owley, 49, understands the power of heroes. As a boy growing up in Aurora, he worshiped the 1969 Cubs. "Everything seems very sharp and clear ... because kids have less day-to-day worries," said the doctor, proudly adding that he can still recite lineups and statistics from 34 years ago.

Undoubtedly, Dusty Baker and company will leave that kind of indelible mark on a generation that had supposedly rejected the languid pace of America's pastime in favor of skateboards and computer games.

At the Mintz household, Cubs games were family affairs, with Garrett playing the optimist to his father's role of realist--a role the elder perfected over four decades of misery.

In Game 5, Garrett was unperturbed by Marlins pitcher Josh Beckett's shutout, while his father muttered, "I've invested way too much emotion in this team."

In Game 6, during the infamous 8th-inning meltdown, Dad left the den, going upstairs to watch "Nip/Tuck." It wasn't until the 7th inning of Game 7 that youth yielded to destiny.

"I just left. Why didn't [Cubs pitching coach] Larry Rothschild go out and talk with the pitchers? Why did Dusty leave Wood in so long? I couldn't take it."

But even from defeat, there is wisdom to be plucked.

Perspective is one of the best souvenirs of sports, said Gottlieb. "You still have your friends; you still have your family. Life doesn't always go your way, but it doesn't fall apart, either."

Eric Samuels reinforced that principle:

"I don't want to say `wait til next year,' because I don't feel like that yet," said the 7th grader.

"But, you know, the heart of the team is still there ..."

See, he's learning.