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Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - lazyfatbum - 29th March 2004
ULTRA MARIO MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont really have anything to add to that. Just hi.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Great Rumbler - 29th March 2004
The grass of the field is ever greener today, I think.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 30th March 2004
:returner:
For that matter, I forgot. Super Mario Sunshine had a nice amount of voice acting. All the cinema scenes were fully voice acted I believe.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 30th March 2004
And they were terrible. The cinemas and voices that accompanied them were an absolute disgrace and really showed how incompetant Nintendo is when it comes to that sort of stuff.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - lazyfatbum - 30th March 2004
It's a style of anime for children. Music is too loud and dialogue is garbled but the camera angles and body movements are perfect. Remember the cut scenes in Sonic games? Same thing.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
The CG was terrible, it actually looked worse than the in-game stuff. And the animation was first-generation PSX bad, something you'd expect from Midway in 1997.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 31st March 2004
I thought it was just cinema scenes, not actual FMVs. Eh, anyway it did the job just fine. I didn't have a problem with it. Eh, it was good, not great, but... good enough.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
It was FMV, believe it or not. When you have games like PoP and BG&E with really fantastic cinemas you expect a lot more from Nintendo. Compare to the cinemas seen in Sony's platformers (R&C, Jak II, Sly Cooper), the Mario Sunshine stuff is terribly amateurish. It's not an extremely important part of a Mario game, but it's better to just completely drop the cinemas if they're going to put such a half-assed effort into them.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Great Rumbler - 31st March 2004
The graphics in Mario Sunshine were good enough to were they could have to just used them for all the cinemas [with maybe a little tweeking].
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
I know, but for some odd reason they used crappy FMV. Ubisoft did the same thing with Splinter Cell, where the FMV looked worse than the game itself.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 31st March 2004
I was fine with the FMVs anyway. I'd certainly rather have them than nothing there at all. It was okay, heck it was more than okay, it was adequatly satisfactory.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
It was hack work. I'd rather have no cinemas than really awful ones, especially since you can't skip them. They were just so bad. Horrible animation, dialog, and voice acting. And the FMV plays in stores like Best Buy and Game Stop! It really doesn't help Nintendo's image.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 31st March 2004
Why do you want me to hate it? I'm happy being fine with it!
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
It was a joke to ABF, though.
Just no one else.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
Dark Jaguar Wrote:Why do you want me to hate it? I'm happy being fine with it!
You should expect more from Nintendo.
beanjo Wrote:It was a joke to ABF, though.
Just no one else.
What?
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
What I meant is, ABF intended it to be a joke, but no one else saw it as such, because it isn't funny.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
He intended what to be a joke?
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
Nevermind.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
What is it? You can't just come into a thread, say something really confusing, and then leave without telling us!
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
Sure I can, if I want to be a pain in the ass. ;)
Actually, I was replying to this:
Quote:That joke is only apparent when it's explained. As you said, explaining it removes it being funny. Thus, I submit that wasn't a joke at all.
It was the last post on the first page, so I posted without realizing that there were more posts. I simply used quickpost to reply to it, thinking a quote would be unnecessary.
THERE, are you HAPPY?!?!?!?!?!? :(
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 31st March 2004
Haha....
no
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - lazyfatbum - 31st March 2004
hahaha :D
Sacred Jellybean is unt crazy in da head, ja
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
Quote:Haha....
no
Man, nothing I ever do pleases you. :(
lazy - Well, at least I'm consisent.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 31st March 2004
OB1 isn't pleased by anyone. He has higher standards than GOD. Didn't you read his biography? Yes, it wasn't actually MENTIONED, per say, but it was obvious from the pictures.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Sacred Jellybean - 31st March 2004
Yeah, even GOD enjoys ribbed condoms and fine wine. OB1 does not. He sleeps on a pile of cement blocks and has a sex drive that's equivalent to my grandmother's after she's taken a couple valium.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - A Black Falcon - 31st March 2004
... well I thought it was funny. So there.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Great Rumbler - 31st March 2004
I didn't think it was funny.
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So THERE!
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - big guy - 1st April 2004
oh man, grammies on vallium...talk about a wild night!
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 1st April 2004
Well I'm sorry that my standards aren't so ridiculously low (like DJ's) that I expect FMV from Nintendo better than Pandemonium's FMV, even though they are the biggest fucking game developer in the UNIVERSE. Yeah, I'm just totally retarded for expecting something that doesn't make my eyes bleed from them, something that was most likely created by a drunken EAD team on New Year's eve. So, so stupid.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 1st April 2004
Yeesh, that was harsh. Why are you SO insistant that I hate those FMVs? I'm HAPPY being adequatly satisfied by them! I don't WANT to hate something I really have no desire to! Calm down, will ya? Why not find something ELSE about Nintendo to complain about? Here, have a "bad advertising campaign in America".
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 1st April 2004
Hey you brought it up. EAD has shown that they can make high-quality cinemas with Wind Waker, so there's no reason why Sunshine's FMV should have been so incredibly awful. Nintendo is struggling with their image enough as it is, and stuff like this only makes things worse for them.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - Dark Jaguar - 1st April 2004
Brought it up? Yeesh, all I did was mention they had voice acting. But, no, I won't continue this thing. Just don't try to force other people to hate the things that you hate.
Anyway, moving on, I just realized something. Star Fox 64, which I THINK is made by EAD, had FULL voice acting from start to finish (except the training level computer). It was pretty good too. Ya know, Super Smash Bros. Melee also had voice acting, and a good chunk of it, throughout that game. That was a HAL game though, so eh. Still, my point is Nintendo really doesn't seem to have a problem with voice acting. If it wasn't for that quote OB1 listed, I would have simply assumed a Zelda game with full voice acting was only a matter of time.
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - OB1 - 2nd April 2004
I wouldn't call Star Fox 64's voice acting good, but they have shown in the past that they can have decent voicework for their games, and decent cinemas. They just totally dropped the ball with Mario Sunshine. I can't believe you actually liked that FMV...
Nintendo to show Metroid Prime 2 and Wind Waker 2 at pre-E3 conference - A Black Falcon - 3rd April 2004
The question is is that voice acting Japanese or English in the Japanese version...