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From IGN:

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July 22, 2003 - Nintendo of America today announced new official release dates for several anticipated GameCube projects. Many of the games have been pushed back later into the year and at least one major project won't come out until next February, according to the company.
The new release dates:

Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour -- July 28
Mario Party 5 -- November 11
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! -- November 17
1080: Avalanche -- December 1
Pokemon Channel -- December 1 (with a retail price of $39.95)
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- February 9, 2004
The confirmation of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles' delay into next year is sure to come as a blow to Nintendo fans eagerly awaiting the role-playing game.

Nintendo also stated that a number of compelling third-party efforts would ship for GameCube before the end of the year, including: Soul Calibur II from Namco, WWE WrestleMania XIX from THQ; P.N. 03 and Viewtiful Joe from Capcom; Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg from Sega; Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike from LucasArts; and Hideo Kojima's entry to Nintendo GameCube, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes from Konami, among others.

More as it becomes available.

Well that sucks. Are there any big RPGs coming out this holiday season for any of the three systems? And I don't care about FF X-2.

Well X-2 does have a different battle system than X... I'll say that for it...

Anyway, not a surprise really. Square is also kinda infamous for delaying games, though Nintendo is Sovern over that title.

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well, at least Rogue Squadron 3 and Twin Snakes are coming out this year.

Rogue Squadron III and Mario Kart GC is all the happiness I need for one year... well, that and RE4... and Cossacks II: Napoleonic Wars.

That stinks... that's a long wait for FF:CC. :(

Oh, and I wonder how many of those other games for this year won't make it by the time we get to november and december... several, I'd expect.

Well the only big Nintendo games coming out this holiday season are Double Dash and Pikmin 2, and I doubt they'll be delayed. It's a damn shame that we're getting so few first-party Nintendo GC games this year. And if the final version of Mario Kart is anything like the E3 version, we're in for a huge dissapointment.

I'm sure double dahs with have a speed increase. No need to worry.

We've got F-Zero and 1080 so who cares... :)

F-Zero sure, but 1080? Even if it's still slow, DD will certainly be better than 1080 2.

Neither one is the crazy Mario style sports game though! Neither has the awesome power of trap items you launch and such. Those are the entire focus of Mario Kart!

In fact, I'm just a tad dissappointed (having never played Mario Golf before) that in the demo I played anyway, there are no weird items you can use mid turn to really do some hilarious and fun stuff during a golf game.

I know, Mario Kart. Fun series, but I've never liked kart racing as much as futuristic racing... as for 1080 it also looks more interesting than Mario Kart. To me anyway... though I do want Mario Kart too.

Yeah well you're a fan of those horrid Cruisin' games o what do you know. ;) :p

And Mario Golf for the N64 had some cool, typical Mario items that you could use during a match. I just hope that they fix the terrible camera in the Gamecube version.

Mario Kart is probably better than Cruis'n Exotica. :)

Probably??

Ugh.

They are very different games so its tough to compare them... but Mario Kart is better than Cruis'n. Its not better than 1080, Rush, or F-Zero though for sure.

The multiplayer in Mario Kart is super fun and better than the multiplayer in F-Zero, but I think F-Zero might have Mario Kart beat in singleplayer. So, I'd say they're both about equal.

Futuristic racing games are the best. Kart racers are okay but by no means do they match the futuristic ones.

Which is why F-Zero, Rush, and Wipeout are all, IMO, better than any Mario Kart game.

It is true, though, that Mario Kart is better in multiplay. As I've said many times F-Zero X's multiplayer is not that good.

You sir, are crazy. Only F-Zero is better than Mario Kart. Those other racing games are crap compared to Nintendo's mighty racing games. And Wave Race 64 is better than 1080. It's got a much more frantic pace to it.

No, you're the crazy one for liking Mario Kart 64, a good but not great racing game, over the three best racing games on the N64... three of my favorite racing games ever, actually... F-Zero X, San Francisco Rush 2049, and Wipeout 64.

And as I said before, if I was to rate my N64 games not by which I liked most but by which I have played most overall, its not a close competition.

I'm sure that Rush 2049 wins by a double digit number of hours. I'm over 20 hours in stunt mode alone, and I've spent hours in standard race mode for each hour in stunt...

Oh, I finally reached 2000 logged hours in standard race/practice/championship mode, and unlocked the final engine... the 8 liter V10. With Extreme handling (all I've been using for a long time now) the Rocket ZX, Pro Manual, and Pro Slicks you MAX OUT THE TOP SPEED BAR in the car selection screen. :D

I do wish that that huge number of hours of reset matches counted to the stats (because every time you reset a race or quit it before finishing all stats are lost... it doesn't save those many hours of gameplay. Which stinks because there were many times I'd spend hours just to complete one four minuite race well enough... but the four minuites and ten miles counts, not the hours and huge number of miles of reset games...), but oh well. It would make getting those top engines significantly easier, but I wish they'd put those stats somewhere else where it doesn't count... and I also wish there was a Power Time meter, like in SSB:M. :)

Oh, and can anyone explain how Rush 2049 saves the huge amount of data it does in 9 blocks while other games save a fraction of that amount in saves many times larger (such as ... Rush 2, with its 29 block save and FAR smaller amount of saved data...)? Its nice though...

However, I do agree with you that Wave Race is better than 1080. Both are great games, but Wave Race is a bit better. On N64, anyway. We can't judge the Cube version yet, obviously...

Dude, you like the Cruisin' games! Those are the Army Men of the racing genre! Shame on you!

*sigh*

I hope that was a joke. Because I don't mention Cruis'n once in that post.

Look. Take Cruis'n for what it is.

It isn't a deep, complex simulation.
It isn't a game with great, diverse tracks with multiple routes.
Its not the best pure arcade racing game ever.
It doesn't exactly have the best graphics.
It also has very ... simple ... gameplay.

However... for what it does it is good.

It is a good pure arcade racer. Its about as pure as you get -- go fast. Forwards. Turn on corners.

Yes, its simplistic. But that isn't always bad. Sometimes simplistic is fun. And for Cruis'n, simplistic arcade racing works well.

Would I give a Cruis'n game a 9? No. But they do deserve decent scores. Not truly great scores, but decent ones.

That said... Cruis'n Exotica isn't a match for any Rush game, F-Zero X, either Extreme-G game on N64, Mario Kart or DKR, 1080, Wave Race 64, Hydro Thunder, or Wipeout... I never said it was. But in the next tier down its near the top.

Noooooooooo! The Cruisin' series is awful! I can't believe you actually like them.

So you hate all SNES behind-the-car psuedo 3d racers? Because all Cruis'n really is is that genre, done better.

Yeah that's right, because Cruisin' is a behind-the-car racer, all racing games are like that. Just like all RPGs are identical to Final Fantasy because they look similar to it.

Great logic, ABF. That's got to be one of your better arguments.*



*The saddest part of that statement is that it's true.

I clearly state a specific subgenre of racing games -- Outrun-style behind the car psuedo 3d racers.

Does "Outrun-style" mean more to you?

Because I'd certainly say that Cruis'n USA is a game in that subgenre, wouldn't you?

You drive forward on a railed path in a 3d viewpoint. You cannot leave the road or turn around. It is a very arcadish style of controlling cars.

Can you honestly say that if you play a bunch of those games for the SNES they don't all blend together both in gameplay and in graphics?

Cruis'n has newer graphics but the gameplay is clearly inspired by (and an improvement on) those older games.

Just because it belongs to that genre doesn't mean that it is as good or bad as those other games. All of the Cruisin' games are very, very bad.

Outrun is fun; the Cruisin' games are most certainly not.

Well we just disagree about the quality of the game. I like it. Classic example of simple and fun.

Bleh.

Edit by DJ: This one's named "Repeat". There, now it's funnier!

That's about the way I feel about it...

*waits for ABF to come in and comment on how unfunny he thinks the strip is*

Its certainly in bad taste... and is a little funny but it isn't so much funny as it is saying how delays are irritating...

Well, the person posting the comic forgot the name of hte comic, which is a lot of the humor. IT's named "Repeat". Notice the wall is already bloody? That means he's done it before! That wall is the "FFCC was delayed again!" wall!

Ah, the comic name Repeat does make it more funny...

At least it's not coming out on the same day as X-2 was supposed to come out, I don't think I would be able to handle to FF games coming out on the same day

X-2, it's hard to say whether I'd really enjoy that game or not. On the plus side, instead of reusing FFX's ability system, it came up with yet another system, which pretty much means that not a single FF game has used the same system. On the minus side, I am still afraid it may suffer the same linearity problems. Also, where's FFIV-2?!

CC on the other hand so far is an instant need of mine.

I don't know if I'll like X-2 either, but ti's better than no FF game

I still want an FFVII-2

Remember that I said 20 hours of stunt mode?

I just checked. 1740 minuites, or about 29 hours. Yup.

Oh, and I have played Rush 2049 for about 5 hours total in the last 3 days... :)

I'm very close to getting more hidden cars! I just need 4 silver stunt coins to get all of those, 5 silver race coins to get all of those, and 14 and 16 golds respectively... though I'll get a car in just 4 more gold coins in each of stunt and race... there're 7 cars to unlock, I have 2, and I am close to getting 3 or 4 more. :)

Quote:Oh, and I have played Rush 2049 for about 5 hours total in the last 3 days...

I played KOTOR for 25 hours in 7 days.

I could play the stunt mode in Rush 2049 (multiplayer) for hours on end. It's certainly not one of the best racing games ever made (IMO), but the stunt mode is very addictive.

Some of that ~30 hours is multiplayer... but not most of it. I play some stunt mode multi when I can but usually its single... and IMO anyway its fun in single too. Not quite as much fun, but still fun... unlike battle mode, obviously. That's why despite my very high stats in other things (3.6 million stunt points, beat all circuits, many coins, etc) I just have 201 battle points. :)

So who do you play with?

No one, usually. That was my point.

Yeah but sometimes you do play with other people, so who are they?

My cousins several times a year (when we see them on vacations or something), and a few people when I'm at college.

Okay.