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After watching this, I'm now convinced.  The metaverse can't work.  Not only can it not work under capitalism (what a dystopian nightmare it would be when "jumping" has to be paid for), but we can't like... actually live there.  In a very real sense, it's impossible to "live" in the metaverse, or anywhere online.  We do things online.  Those things are real, but we're still out here in the really real world where physics and biology and toilets are.  Short of full brain uploading, it isn't happening.

(And, as an aside, full brain uploading very much seems impossible, not just under current technology but in all future conceivable technologies, from what I've learned talking to biologists who know a thing or two about it.  Our brains are very fragile and any means of fully "reading" it would necessarily be completely and utterly destructive down beyond the cellular level.  There is no "jack input" that would just feed the whole state of the brain through one point.  Further, attempts to read one half of the brain would render the other half useless as far as data reading is concerned.  Hoping for brain uploading seems about as silly a notion as hoping for faster than light travel... perhaps even more so.  If we want a future of invincible immortal robots, our best bet is to think of them as a successor species, post-human, and just wish them the best of luck without us.)
I don't like to comment without finishing the whole video, but that's an hour forty-nine, and I feel like running my mouth now.

Spending time in VR is a pointless, ridiculous gimmick, and it's one of the few things I'm confident enough to say without my normal reservations of "stfu old man, you just don't get younger generations". There is absolutely no substitute whatsoever for being in physical surroundings. Imagine just the act of talking to another person: friend, lover, boss, whatever. Their presence has too great of an impact on your senses to just shunt aside. Hearing their voice, looking into their eyes... there's just something crucial there that's lost when it's a simulation. I feel a little frustrated that I can't describe it more precisely than something crystal-woo like "energy" or "vibes".

That's why younger generations are maladjusted from spending less time interacting in the real world, with friends, and more time having their attention robbed with electronics. (Okay, this one elicits a "maybe you're just too old to understand a changing world, fuck your cane bitch" voice somewhere upstairs).

If we were able to stuff people into the matrix and perfectly replicate all human senses to different experiences, it'd be interesting to have an application that simulates climbing a mountain, or going to any number of famous tourist traps. If we could make it completely indistinguishable from the real thing, more people would have access to those experiences.

Subsequently, it would no longer be impressive to tell people "I visited the great wall of china" or "I scuba-dived with some sharks", unless you can also say "but I like, actually did it, man!" That'd be like a status symbol, having the wealth and resources to do actually pull oneself outside of the capitalist meat-grinder and actually DO the shit. What's actually substantive about those experiences would be totally equivalent, and even if it feels superficial, there'd still be some meaning behind "but no dude I was actually there, a shark swam at my face and it wasn't programmed to not bite me, so that was a close shave".
(27th September 2023, 3:34 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: [ -> ]

After watching this, I'm now convinced.  The metaverse can't work.  Not only can it not work under capitalism (what a dystopian nightmare it would be when "jumping" has to be paid for), but we can't like... actually live there.  In a very real sense, it's impossible to "live" in the metaverse, or anywhere online.  We do things online.  Those things are real, but we're still out here in the really real world where physics and biology and toilets are.  Short of full brain uploading, it isn't happening.

(And, as an aside, full brain uploading very much seems impossible, not just under current technology but in all future conceivable technologies, from what I've learned talking to biologists who know a thing or two about it.  Our brains are very fragile and any means of fully "reading" it would necessarily be completely and utterly destructive down beyond the cellular level.  There is no "jack input" that would just feed the whole state of the brain through one point.  Further, attempts to read one half of the brain would render the other half useless as far as data reading is concerned.  Hoping for brain uploading seems about as silly a notion as hoping for faster than light travel... perhaps even more so.  If we want a future of invincible immortal robots, our best bet is to think of them as a successor species, post-human, and just wish them the best of luck without us.)

There's a AI app for that already.. If the headset didn't bother so much after a 2 hour game I might actually like it better.
Honestly it's only distopican if your wasted on your money on a dumbass quest instead of a htc headset. 

You can still hang out with friends, and take being the loud asshole who ruins the movie to awesome and strange new places.
Also allot of sporting venues like the NFL has tickets literally on the field now with cameras rolling that shoot in VR.

I've seen a football game like that. Banged 30 cat girls like that.. Seen a wrestling match. Watched a NBA game.. Movies are great.
Movies are great!  I watch them on my TV.
Wow, I think graphic fidelity on the quest is actually getting worse not better.
I mean comparative it was already garbage. But somehow it's still getting worse.

Like remember the NES.. Mario 1 and then we got more and more creative and Mario 3 happened. We got innovative. Learned the tricks. Pushed the hardware to new place. 
Meta.. Nope Pushed the hardware. Shat on a turtle. Done forever.