Tendo City

I believe you can change your own title and avatar with vbulletin.

That is true, you can. But so can admins.

Uh yeah, I think we all know that. What I'm saying is that I wouldn't put this beneath Cartoon Devil.

And I'm saying that I really don't have a clue who did it...

Then stop shooting down my ideas, damnit!

*<strike>yet another 3-page trademark OB1-Black Falcon fight</strike> sodomy ensues*

Fine, fine. Then what about *name withheld*? No news?

Did someone say The Biggah Reborn? Must be a Wheel of Time fan behind all of this. Or probably it's just a coinkidink, but I'm on a bit of a WOT obsession right now since Rand used the Eye to out-draw Aginor, kill a bunch of Trollocs and Fades, and then beat up Ishy for the first of 3 times. GO RAND!

They "both" claim they're not the same person, ABF. But I don't know how else to explain them sharing four identical IPs. Does anyone have any theories?

And yeah, go Rand!

They claim not to be the same, huh... well with four or five identical IPs, I doubt them.

Uh, should we post it on TC yet?

Nah, not unless they come out and talk about it. Maybe we should ask LL and Weltall what they think.

Quote:Originally posted by OB1
They "both" claim they're not the same person, ABF. But I don't know how else to explain them sharing four identical IPs. Does anyone have any theories?

Yeah, I've got one theory. It's a weird, yet obviously possible, coincidence. I talked to *other name withheld* yesterday, we don't know how to prove to you that we're two seperate people. We both use AOL as a browser, so maybe that is part of it.

You just <i>need</i> to dig up useless confrontation, don't you? Must be part of your genetic makeup.

I won't deny I've made short-lived surnames, just like everyone here, but *other name withheld* is not one of them. Period.

Hmm... it MIGHT be possible that since you have the same provider you have the same IP sometimes... but that often? Maybe with a small provider, but this is AOL... :)

What an irritating circumstance. A thread starts to commemorate my birthday, and turns into my being accused of being a liar.

Nice, OB1.

Hey we're not accusing you of something bad or anything like that. If you both say you're not the same person then I believe you. But why do you share four of the same IPs? I love a good mystery. :D

OB1...

You are a true dumbass.....

I have a degree in computer networking, so don't call me a liar...


Arse logs onto AOL....

internet routers send him to router A some days, Router C othera, and Router D once in awhile. These routers connect to proxy servers that have databases of IP addresses that they hand out to users.

Eden logs onto AOL......

routers send him to router A, Router B and Router E. The proxy server database just happens to hand out the same IP to Eden as it does arse. This however, does not happen a the same time.

So answer me this OB1, what days and times did Eden and Arse have the same IPs?

This is interesting. Looking at the IPs.

EdenMaster has 17 unique IPs.

Nintendarse has 27 unique IPs.

EdenMaster has 6 IPs which say "AOL". He also has 9 that say "MarketScore" and one with no designator.

Nintendarse has 20 through "AOL", 5 with no designator, and two through other addresses.

Now. ALL of EdenMaster's 6 AOL IPs also show up among the 20 Nintendarse has. All six. If that's a cooincidence, its a pretty big one!

None of EM's MarketScore IPs or the one non designated one are shared between them.

Those are the facts.

Oh, EM, where do you live?

:bang:

I'M NOT NINTENDARSE!

I live in Northwest Pennsylvania. See that little area of land jutting up to touch Lake Erie there? That's where I live.

Well six of six is interesting. :)

How many times must we repeat the same things? I say I'm not Nintendarse, and you retort with how many IP's match. Over and over and over.

Can't you people accept coincidence as just that? Yes, I'll admit, it's unlikely, but not impossible. Can you let it go? I'm not Nintendarse.

If it were less, it would be less of an issue. But all six of your AOL addresses are shared by him!

Oh, here's a question. :)

Why all the marketscore addresses? You use that a lot, I gather?

If you were him too you'd have to close it and re log in or something most every time you post as him... and i'd think that some post might get through with that, but there are none, so that is something... but still, you have all 6... so I don't know.

Here's what I know.

I've known Nintendarse for almost 5 years, longer than I've known any of you. We both posted at Rarenet before TC existed. I didn't see him after I joined TC until Rarenet came back up last year, in March or whatever. When he saw me again and saw that I linked to TC, he asked if he could be hired because he was going to a DigiPen summer program and wanted to see if he could get any interviews or meetings with NOA as a journalist. That was when he joined.

Now, as you know, EM has been an active member at TC for much longer than that. It doesn't make any sense that EM, already being a staff member, would contact me under another alias and ask to become a staff member... again. And if somehow this person followed me or lazy or j-Man from Rarenet many years ago, why would he use the name EdenMaster instead of using the name his friends already knew and respected.

So it just doesn't make any sense, even with the IP matches. That must just be a wierd coincidence. I have decided for me, but I can't decide it for you. Sorry, I had to sneak a song quote in. :)

I'm convinced they are seperate people myself as well, it's a matter of faith sure but I'm totally positive this is the case. AOL likely does ditch out similar IP addresses very often. Assuming they live nearby, and logged in close to, but not at, the same time, then it's not too unlikely. Now, I'm not one to believe much in coincidence. If the odds are confirmed to really be astronomical, then I will be forced to agree that it's completely and totally improbable for them to not have at least been using the same computer. If they are decent enough odds, as I currently think, then it's as I think, they are seperate people (or at least, the evidence doesn't go against what I think, that wouldn't exactly proove it I suppose).

Also, ABF, did you check ALL the IP addresse they have used? You may wish to check further.

What do you mean check all the IPs? I checked all the ones listed in the lists in the admin control panel... so obviously this is only their IPs since the VBulletin was put in, not from before that...

Quote:Originally posted by Laser Link
Here's what I know.

I've known Nintendarse for almost 5 years, longer than I've known any of you. We both posted at Rarenet before TC existed. I didn't see him after I joined TC until Rarenet came back up last year, in March or whatever. When he saw me again and saw that I linked to TC, he asked if he could be hired because he was going to a DigiPen summer program and wanted to see if he could get any interviews or meetings with NOA as a journalist. That was when he joined.

Now, as you know, EM has been an active member at TC for much longer than that. It doesn't make any sense that EM, already being a staff member, would contact me under another alias and ask to become a staff member... again. And if somehow this person followed me or lazy or j-Man from Rarenet many years ago, why would he use the name EdenMaster instead of using the name his friends already knew and respected.

So it just doesn't make any sense, even with the IP matches. That must just be a wierd coincidence. I have decided for me, but I can't decide it for you. Sorry, I had to sneak a song quote in. :)

Well, there you go. LL here has known Nintendarse for five years, Weltall has known me for four, both can vouch for the other persons existence.

Quote:Originally posted by Nick Burns
OB1...

You are a true dumbass.....

I have a degree in computer networking, so don't call me a liar...


Arse logs onto AOL....

internet routers send him to router A some days, Router C othera, and Router D once in awhile. These routers connect to proxy servers that have databases of IP addresses that they hand out to users.

Eden logs onto AOL......

routers send him to router A, Router B and Router E. The proxy server database just happens to hand out the same IP to Eden as it does arse. This however, does not happen a the same time.

So answer me this OB1, what days and times did Eden and Arse have the same IPs?

That's why I asked for other opinions, bitch. Both ABF and myself know nothing about this sort of thing.

Quote:Originally posted by EdenMaster
Well, there you go. LL here has known Nintendarse for five years, Weltall has known me for four, both can vouch for the other persons existence.

Indeed. LL can vouch for Arse's existence, and I can vouch for EdenMaster's existence. In fact, in a strange twist of fate, I knew a person in high school who had previously went to school with EM, so there is no doubt in my mind that they are seperate persons and that this coincidence is nothing more than just that.

I can't vouch for Nintendarse's existence, but LL can, and I've not no reason at all to think he's lying.

That's good to know.

Now all we need to figure out is who this recent Biggah is. I checked his IP and it doesn't match with anyone else's.

I've been away for a few days, did we find out who was fucking around with their powers yet?

It's always fun to have a good old imposter crisis. Makes things interesting again. That was a lot easier to do when you just typed in your username and anyone could use the same thing and pretend to be you. Things would get insane then! Hahahaha!

~Laser Link

Quote:Originally posted by OB1
That's why I asked for other opinions, bitch. Both ABF and myself know nothing about this sort of thing.

Then don't accuse someone of something unless you know about the subject at hand....

We still don't know who messed with CD. OB1 thinks he did it to himself, but I'm not so sure...

We also don't know who this latest fake Biggah is.

And we don't know with absolute certainty that Nintendarse exists. He probably does, sure... but no one has proof. :)

Quote:Then don't accuse someone of something unless you know about the subject at hand....

Even ABF was baffled by this. That is why I asked for the opinions of LL and Weltall. It's actually not that difficult a concept to understand.

Its possible that AOL has such a huge lack of addresses...

One thing would make this clearer -- a easy way to see when EM and Nintendarse posted with the IPs in question! But I don't know if you can do that... :(

Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Its possible that AOL has such a huge lack of addresses...

One thing would make this clearer -- a easy way to see when EM and Nintendarse posted with the IPs in question! But I don't know if you can do that... :(

Let it go ABF. It's a coincidence, even OB1 is accepting it, just let it go.

I say it's just a coincidence, but even if it isn't, so what?

Why have you dragged up so many old topics?

I've been out of touch for a week, gimme a break!