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The fact is, with so many books set AFTER the movies, it would severely limit their ability to write new movies. It was a necessary decision, and Arstechnica covers it pretty well.

Let's face it, most of it was garbage, must like most of the Star Trek books. However, look at it this way. For the good stuff like the books you mentioned (at least that's what I hear) you can still enjoy them and still enjoy them as one POSSIBLE sequel, it's own little world where those events happened. That's exactly how I intend to enjoy the Old Republic games anyway.

For what it's worth, if they took off the "episode" subtitles from the rest of the Star Wars movies, you could even pretend the prequels don't exist if you like. It wouldn't be the first time they renamed a movie, the original Star Wars was just called Star Wars, no episode number, no subtitle, until it's VHS release. If Disney does decide on something like that, I also hope they rename Frozen and Tangled to The Snow Queen and Rapunzel. Those were really dumb movie names and heck my niece just calls them what they actually are anyway.

Dark Jaguar Wrote:The fact is, with so many books set AFTER the movies, it would severely limit their ability to write new movies. It was a necessary decision, and Arstechnica covers it pretty well.

Yeah, that's true. It would limit them a lot, and with all the stupid in the EU... well, I'm sure JJ Abrams will come up with stuff just as stupid as a lot of that is, but he wants to make up his own new stupid stuff, clearly. :p

Quote:Let's face it, most of it was garbage, must like most of the Star Trek books. However, look at it this way. For the good stuff like the books you mentioned (at least that's what I hear) you can still enjoy them and still enjoy them as one POSSIBLE sequel, it's own little world where those events happened. That's exactly how I intend to enjoy the Old Republic games anyway.

In the '90s and '00s I liked Star Wars books more than Star Trek books for sure. The Star Trek books are okay, but I did like Star Wars books more... so I wouldn't call them quite equal. But yeah, there are plenty of bad books in both franchises, that is true. The same is true for games -- though once again, Star Wars is very much the better; there are a lot more great Star Wars games than Star Trek ones, certainly.

As for the games, it's hard to think of many Star Wars games which actually have good plots which are relevant to the franchise and are really worth saving... a few characters, Kyle Katarn and maybe Dash Rendar, but beyond that not much except for maybe the KotOR series, I think. But of course, they're games, and as with all games they focus more on gameplay than on story, and that's fine.

But like, stuff like Rebel Assault 2, or Jedi Knight 1, or The Force Unleashed... with all the stuff put into those games for purposes of making them better games, does it really fit well into the series as a whole? How many Siths were there in JK1? And RA2, really, those invisible TIE Fighters were only at that one factory? :p As for TFU... just everything. I know they tried, but... really, does that actually fit well in canon? But this is a common problem with games, of course -- you need a LOT of villains for a game, much more than is reasonable even for a movie or book universe, and that causes issues if you take it all as canon. Just look at how many enemies and bosses they ahyd to add in to the Super Star Wars games to make them work as games, for another great example of that. As far as canon goes, you probably have to just take the story in general and not the specifics.. if that; JK1's expansion, MotS, makes lots of Zahn-book connections of course, and if they cut all (or most) of that out of canon, MotS has to go with it. I mean, you play as Mara Jade for 75% of the game! And I don't know if stuff like Ysalamiris are being kept either.

Quote:For what it's worth, if they took off the "episode" subtitles from the rest of the Star Wars movies, you could even pretend the prequels don't exist if you like. It wouldn't be the first time they renamed a movie, the original Star Wars was just called Star Wars, no episode number, no subtitle, until it's VHS release. If Disney does decide on something like that, I also hope they rename Frozen and Tangled to The Snow Queen and Rapunzel. Those were really dumb movie names and heck my niece just calls them what they actually are anyway.

Bah, the prequels weren't THAT bad. Sure, the original trilogy is better of course, but the prequels are not bad movies. I've always said this, and I still really do think that they're fine movies, and that each one is better than the last.

The last time I made a ranking of the Star Wars movies, I believe it was 6 > 4 > 5 = 3 > 2 > 1.

As for Tangled and Frozen, those name changes are kind of silly, but they wanted to make them seem more modern, so they gave them "modern" names... eh, I don't really mind; the movies are just as good even without the name from the original story. Or at least, Tangled is. I haven't seen Frozen yet, but I'm sure I will, it sounds good.