Since IGN's list is so shitty I thought it would be nice and fun for us to come up with our own best video game list.
But let's keep PC games seperate from video games since I don't want to have to deal with these Blizzard fanboys saying how WC3 is the best game ever. :D We'll make a seperate Top 100 PC Games list in the MCD forum. ABF, you can do the honors.
The first thing we should do is list out every game we all think deserves to be on the list, and then we'll iron things out and eventually vote on it all.
What should the list be for, though? I say that we list out which 100 games we'd choose to have to play for the rest of our lives. You know, that whole "if you were stranded on a desert island" sort of thing.
I guess I'll start by listing the games I think deserve to be on the list. I'm sure I'll forget some, but that's what you guys are for.
-Metroid Prime
-Super Metroid
-Metroid Fusion
-Metroid
-The Legend of Zelda
-The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awaikening
-The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
-The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
-Super Mario Bros.
-Super Mario Bros. 2
-Super Mario Bros. 3
-Super Mario World
-Yoshi's Island
-Mario 64
-Mario Sunshine
-Mario Kart 64
-Mario Tennis (N64)
-Mario Golf (N64)
-F-Zero X
-Tetris
-Puyo Puyo
-Contra
-Contra 3
-Ghosts 'n Goblins
-Castlevania 2
-Super Castlevania IV
-Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
-Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
-Mega Man 3
-Mega Man X
-Mega Man X2
-Mega Man X5
-Final Fantasy VI
-Final Fantasy V
-Final Fantasy VII
-Final Fantasy X
-Chrono Trigger
-Chrono Cross
-Xenogears
-ICO
-The Mark of Kri
-Grand Theft Auto III
-Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
-Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
-Eternal Darkness
-Super Smash Bros. Melee
-Wave Race 64
-Wave Race: Blue Storm
-Super Monkey Ball 2
-Shenmue
-Shenmue II
-Splinter Cell
-Metal Gear Solid
-Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
-Perfect Dark
-Banjo-Kazooie
-Banjo-Tooie
-Conker's Bad Fur Day
-Diddy Kong Racing
-Jet Force Gemini
-Pilotwings 64
-Wipeout Fusion
-Wipeout XL
-Panzer Dragoon Saga
-NiGHTS
-Advance Wars
-Starfox 64
-Pacman
And uh... I'm sure I left out a ton more. I'll have to go back and edit my list.
Starcraft 64! :D
Uhh... the problem is EVERYONE would have a different list... I'd say that IGN's is good because it covers most of the angles pretty well. We wouldn't get one so dramatically better, I'd think...
Oh yes we would. Their list is embarrasingly bad.
Anf of course each list will be different. That's why we're gonna vote on everything.
Hmm... consoles only... that's hard. I haven't played so many consoles much at all...
but from what I can list, let's see. This is a beginning for my list, anyway. :)
NES
-Super Mario Bros.
-Super Mario Bros. 2
-Super Mario Bros. 3
-The Legend of Zelda
-Mega Man 2
-Mega Man 4
-Bionic Commando
-Gradius
SNES
-Super Mario World
-Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi's Island
-The Legend of Zelda - Link to the Past
-F-Zero
-Mega Man X
-Mega Man X2
-Mega Man X3
-Secret of Mana
-Seiken Densetsu 3
-Chrono Trigger
-Super Street Fighter 2
N64
-Super Mario 64
-The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time
-F-Zero X
-San Francisco Rush 2049
-Wipeout 64
-Excitebike 64
-Wave Race 64
-Star Fox 64
-Rush 2 - Extreme Racing USA
-Jet Force Gemini
-Perfect Dark
GB/C
-The Legend of Zelda - Link's Awakening
-The Legend of Zelda - Oracle of Ages & Seasons
-Final Fantasy Adventure
-Kirby's Dream Land 2
-Bionic Commando: Elite Forces
-Wario Land
-Mega Man 4
-Mega Man 5
PSX
-Mega Man X4
-Mega Man X5
-Mega Man X6
-Legend of Mana
-Wipeout XL
-Rollcage Stage II
PS2
-Wipeout Fusion
-Grand Theft Auto III
-Metal Gear Solid 2
NGC
-Metroid Prime
-Skies of Arcadia
-Super Mario Sunshine
-Eternal Darkness
A full list would take a long time. And have way over 100 games.
We only really need around 70 games per person.
WellI guess I'll just prattle them off as I can think of them...
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Eternal Darkness
Zelda: OoT
Zelda: WW
Zelda: LttP
Resident Evil
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Mega Man 4
Mega Man 7
Mega Man X
Final Fantasy X
Grand Theft Auto III
Animal Crossing
Mario Kart 64
Vigilante 8
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario World
Starfox 64
Kirby Super Star
Game & Watch Gallery 4
*Latest Additions*
Final Fantasy II (or IV for all you freakin' Japanese nitpickers)
SimCity
Super Mario Bros.
Donkey Kong Jr.
Super Mario RPG: Search for the Seven Stars
That's all I can think of for now.
Where the hell is Metroid in that list??
Proudly absent. Prime was good, as is the series, but not amongst my favorites.
This coming from the person with a dancing meatball as his avatar.
...
Who am I kidding, I love Meatwad!
I thought IGN's wasn't too bad. You are just mad because Prime was in the 20's. I think 1 and 2 should have been swapped, but I almost had the Top 5 exactly. I would have guessed Mario 3 instead of Mario 1, but I see their point. And even in the anti-Nintendo confines of IGN they still had to admit that 5 of the 6 best games ever are all Nintendo's, with Tetris being the only exception.
I don't think I've even played 70 games in my life, and I don't think you would want me to mention games like Lego Racers or All Star Baseball or Quarterback Club (or anything else Acclaim) in a Greatest Games list. But I will just list off a bunch ins some sort of order until I get bored or run out of ideas.
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Skies of Arcadia
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Tecmo Bowl
Super Mario World
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Mario RPG
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Super Mario 1
Super Mario 3
Pokémon RBY
Baseball Stars
Banjo Kazooie
Diddy Kong Racing
Super Mario Kart
Earthbound
Ducktales
Pirates (I have a NES version, and the game rocks)
Paper Mario
SSBM
No I don't care about Metroid Prime not being in the top 10. There are just too many great, influential games missing from the list, and certain games were terribly ranked. The list doesn't even follow their own rules. ALttP gets on the list but the original game doesn't? Sure ALttP is better, but Zelda 1 is definitely the more influential and innovative game, in the same way that Mario Bros. is more influential and innovative than Mario Bros. 3 while Mario 3 is the better game. It's like they only applied their guidlines to a select few games. It's a very poor list.
I'm glad OB1---cuz Metroid Prime shouldn't even be in the top 50. :)
In no order, the best/most important games (as many as I can think of right now):
-Ocarina of Time
-Perfect Dark
-GoldenEye 007
-Sim City
-Doom (all Doom)
-Return to Castle Wolfenstein
-Wolfenstein 3D
-Maniac Mansion
-Space Quest III: The Pirates of Pistulon
-Space Quest V
-Wing Commander I
-Star Trek 30th Anniversary NES
-Spear of Destiny
-Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold
-Cossacks: European Wars (+add-ons)
-REMake
-Zelda: Majora's Mask
-Zelda: Wind Waker
-Rogue Leader
-King's Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella
-Age of Empires (+add-on)
-Age of Empires II (+add-on)
-Chrono Trigger
-Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
-Super Mario 64
-Super Mario Bros.
-Legacy of the Wizard
-Sim Tower
-Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade
-Dark Forces
-Jedi Knight
-Jedi Outcast
-Quest64
-Breath of Fire III
-GTA: Vice City
-Mario Kart64
-Duke Nukem64
Uhh.... Darunia, this one's CONSOLE ONLY. :)
*shh!*
that's alright! he's a slow learner. give him a few days and he might catch on to it.
'Tis easily made good upon. Here it is again sans compy titles:
-Ocarina of Time
-Perfect Dark
-GoldenEye 007
-Star Trek 30th Anniversary NES
-REMake
-Zelda: Majora's Mask
-Zelda: Wind Waker
-Rogue Leader
-Chrono Trigger
-Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
-Super Mario 64
-Super Mario Bros.
-Legacy of the Wizard
-Quest64
-Breath of Fire III
-Mario Kart64
-Duke Nukem64
Quest 64 is on that list but Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, ALttP, and Tetris aren't?
:eek2:
Hm...let's see.
-Chrono Cross
-Chrono Trigger
-Eternal Darkness
-Paper Mario
-Star Wars: Rogue Leader
-Star Fox 64
-Metroid Prime
Top favourite games of mine (and the only games I have beaten...I only put the time in to beat games I really like)
And for mulitplayer:
Advance Wars
Mario Party 1-3
Starcraft 64 (ain't never played them PC versions)
That's right OB1. Quest was short and overly simplified, but fun...more so than I found Metroid Prime to be. You know that. Don't make this into an incident.
Quote:Starcraft 64 (ain't never played them PC versions)
PC version is ten thousand times better. Why? Dramatically better quality graphics (not small and blurry), VOICES (all mission briefings are fully in voice, and all in-level cutscenes (where the characters talk to eachother) are in voice, and there are more voices for the units (on clicking they say more things, I believe), the 40 or 50 minuites of CG cutscenes, level editor, and, most importantly, INTERNET PLAY.
SC64 is as good as it could be expected on consoles. That's just not very good.
Hahaha....
Darunia is kidding, right?
Please tell me that he's kidding. Quest 64 is sooo bad.
ABF, you went into detail on the minor differences and then just sorta glazed over the MAJOR differences between the versions of Starcraft? What's with ya lad?
As ABF said, but I'd like to reiterate, there were two specific changes that are VERY important. The first? On N64, the only multiplayer is split screen. Do you have any idea how much an RTS game SUCKS in split screen? If you considered a game where you know exactly what the enemy is up to fun, try one where you don't. There really isn't any real possibility for any strategy when you each know what the other is doing, but there is when you don't. This isn't quite an FPS, where split screen also opens some strategis, this is RTS!
Second, superior controls on the PC. Mouse is far superior to stick when it comes to RTS. This is very important since when you finally get into REAL multiplayer matches, you will in fact want some SPEED. You will want to be able to build up to and unleash a massive wave of endless forces in roughly 10 to 15 minutes.
Darunia: To each their own, but I will say I found Quest 64 to be an extreme bore, whereas Metroid Prime was pure gaming goodness the whole way.
Top 100 lists are almost completely arbitary anyway. I can name maybe a top 20 maximum before I just start listing things in random order.
1. Xenogears
2. Silent Hill 2
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
5. Star Ocean: The Second Story
6. Zelda: OOT
7. Silent Hill
8. Final Fantasy VII
9. Super Mario 64
10. Xenosaga
11. Final Fantasy VI
12. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
13. Kid Chameleon
14. Maniac Mansion
15. Final Fantasy IV
16. Tales of Destiny
17. AD&D: Treasure of Tarmin
18. Zelda: LTTP
19. Super Bomberman
20. Sonic and Knuckles
21. Metal Gear Solid
22. Resident Evil 2
23. ActRaiser
24. Super Mario Bros. 3
25. Blaster Master
26. Ducktales
27. Faceball 2000
28. Super Mario Bros. 2
29. Discworld
30. Breath of Fire III
31. Resident Evil (PSX)
32. ICO
33. Legend of Zelda
34. Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
35. Toejam & Earl
36. Lemmings
37. QuackShot
38. Crazy Taxi
39. Kirby's Dream Land
40. Resident Evil 3
41. Shenmue
42. Mega Man 3
43. Night Stalker
44. Dr. Mario
45. Zelda: LA
46. Final Fantasy IX
47. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
48. Columns
49. Loco-Motion
50. NFL 2K3
51. Contra
52. Holyfield's "Real Deal" Boxing
53. Grandia II
54. Gauntlet
55. Marble Madness
56. Super Castlevania IV
57. LUNAR: SSSC
58. Final Fantasy VIII
59. Chrono Cross
60. Grand Theft Auto 2
61. Super Mario Bros.
62. Castlevania
63. AstroSmash
64. Streets of Rage 2
65. Super Mario Sunshine
66. Tetris
67. Earthworm Jim 2
68. Jet Grind Radio
69. Pacman
70. NFL Gameday 98
71. Dragon Warrior
72. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
73. Gran Turismo
74. Grand Theft Auto III
75. Auto Racing
76. Balloon Fight
77. Final Fantasy
78. Resident Evil: Code Veronica
79. Batman: Return of the Joker
80. Sonic the Hedgehog
81. Mega Man 4
82. Syphon Filter
83. Virtua Cop
84. Kirby's Dream Course
85. Street Fighter 2
86. Super Mario Kart
87. Tales of Eternia
88. Secret of Evermore
89. Resident Evil: REMake
90. Ninja Gaiden
91. Bionic Commando
92. Mega Man X
93. Kung Fu
94. Dragon Warrior IV
95. Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
96. Adventures of Lolo
97. BurgerTime
98. Ecco the Dolphin
99. Play Action Football
100. Sonic Adventure
Perhaps we should nominate a bunch of games and make a poll to go on for a week or so, then list the top 100 games as according to the poll.
Or not... I'll just list some of my favorites...
Final Fantasy IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X
Chrono Trigger
Kirby's Dream Land 1-3
Kirby Super Star
Kirby's Adventure/Nightmare in Dreamland
Donkey Kong Country 1-3
Super Mario World 1 and 2
Zelda: ALttP, Link's Awakening, OoT, and MM
Grant Theft Auto III and Vice City
Kingdom Hearts
I don't have much time since I'm in school, so I'll cut the list short and end it there.
Oh, right, mouse vs gamepad... forgot about that one. :)
But I'd say that by far the biggest problem is no netplay. I playedf SC single player for a few months, then again for a month or so when the expansion came out, then on and off trying to complete that expansion campaign for a few years, but not too often.
I still play SC on B.Net. I played several games last week.
Oh, other games that should be on the list... hmm.
Arcade
T.M.N.T.
R-Type
Pac-Man
Jaguar
Tempest 2000
PSX
Lunar 2 - Eternal Blue (well I have the Sega CD version... and the PSX one doesn't have random battles so it's got to be even better...)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
NES
Kirby's Adventure
Maniac Mansion
Mega Man 3
Ninja Gaiden
Lemmings
PS2
Escape from Monkey Island
GTA: Vice City
N64
Rogue Squadron
Gauntlet Legends
Hydro Thunder
GoldenEye 007
NGC
Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Ikaruga
Genesis
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (lockon)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic the Hedgehog
SNES
NBA Jam TE
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Game Boy
Faceball 2000
Kirby's Pinball Land
Dreamcast
Crazy Taxi
Okay, this is unusable. I can't use TC when the only way to see if there is a new post in a thread is actually to open that thread.
Is anyone actually going to compile all of our results here and make a top 100 list for us...? I think that'd be a good, fun thing...community program the likes of which we've not had since the Great Shiggy Contest.
Well, if MoronBoy is the one who tallys the votes, I'm sure mine won't be included, because that is the kind of person he seems to be.
What is the criteria that we are selecting these games by again? What's the best today? Most nostalgia? Biggest influence on the games following it?
<B>Nintendo 64</B>
Blast Corps
GoldenEye 007
Perfect Dark
Jet Force Gemini
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
ExciteBike 64
1080 Snowboarding
WaveRace 64
Body Harvest
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Pokemon Puzzle League
<B>SNES</B>
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Super Mario Kart
<B>NES</B>
Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Brothers
Mike Tyson Punchout
River City Ransom
Metroid
Zelda 2: Adventures of Link
<B>GameCube</B>
TimeSplitters 2
WaveRace: Blue Storm
Metroid Prime
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II - Rogue Leader
<B>XBox</B>
Halo
Max Payne
<B>GameBoy</B>
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening <B>(NOT THE DX VERSION)</B>
Tetris
Elevator Action
Pokemon Red/Blue
Who's MoronBoy? That's quite a clever name. Must have taken a while to come up with it.
And Geno, I was thinking the same thing about making polls for each game in the top whatever list. Maybe we can do that in the abandoned Emulation forum.
Everyone's vote counts except for PoopyHead here (see? I can come up with the clever names as well!).
I forgot NBA JAM for the SNES.
Top 100 ? Boy thats toooo long. I'll just say top 10 now and later when I'm not lazy :D
These are my preferences.
1 - Shenmue 2 (Cant believe 3 is cancelled! *insert cursing emoticon*)
2 - LOZ : Ocarina of Time
3 - Goldeneye.
4 - Half Life 2
5 - Halo : Combat Evolved
6 - Silent Hill 2.
7 - MGS 2
8 - Silent Hill 3.
9 - Gran Turismo
10 - Resident Evil 4.
Well...<i>UNNECESSARY BUMP!!!</I>
This thread is two and a half years old!!
I've bumped two-year-old posts before... but yeah, it is kind of unnecessary. :)
Holy shit, Xenosaga is in my top 10.
I had hoped that history forgot that blantantly poor judgement on my part.
Ryan Wrote:Holy shit, Xenosaga is in my top 10.
I had hoped that history forgot that blantantly poor judgement on my part.
One mustn't judge a game by its first four letters :D
My list's pretty good, for the most part... though Megaman X6 was a bad choice, and I don't know if Rush 2 really belongs there... maybe, but 2049 is just so much better... Mario Kart 64 definitely should, though. ... I need to stop, I like N64 a lot, so I'd list too many titles... :D ... I could list just a few ... dozen... more... :)
If you're going to revive this thread, I can post my votes, since I seem to have missed round one...(can't imagine why ;) )
-TheBiggah-
Holy shit! I thought this was a new thread or something. Didn't notice the date. 2 years ?! Damn..
How do you find a thread on like the last page of the forum and not notice that it's old? Just wondering...
Parhaps he found it in the Who's Here area. Sometimes the "guests" are on just any random page. I've gone there before and seen them in threads this old, so maybe he just assumed it was a new thread from there, not realizing it was old?
Looking at my list...I think it looks pretty good, even now. I'd probably add Soul Calibur II, Metal Gear Solid, GTA San Andreas, and Paper Mario TTYD, and remove G&W Gallery 4 (what was I thinking?), and there you'd have a fairly current list.
We should explain the situation then. Many of the "guests" you may see visiting those ancient threads seem to likely be just google search "bots". Google has this spidery method of finding web pages to catalog in their massive shockingly fast database (relative to databases I've had the unfortunate "pleasure" of dealing with, no one ever listens to the guy suggesting they go "dynamic", though I do understand the frustration of making an old database "random access" if it is terribly confusing).
Don't worry too much about it though, we don't mind as much as some forums might, if you couldn't tell that already... :)
Yeah, if nothing else, it's something to do.
I have, on occasion, visited that page on slow days solely to see where the Google Bots are and go to one of the random pages they're on :D
It's like looking back at a random page in your yearbook. You never know what you'll find, but it might just bring back memories!