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http://top100.ign.com/

100 - Pitfall
99 - Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
98 - Master of Orion
97 - Phantasy Star II
96 - Golden Axe
95 - Adventure
94 - Wolfenstein 3-D
93 - SimCity
92 - Aces of the Pacific
91 - F-Zero
90 - Sonic the Hedgehog
89 - Virtua Tennis
88 - Warcraft II
87 - Wing Commander II: Vengeance of the Kilrathi
86 - Tomb Raider
85 - Final Fantasy X
84 - Kid Icarus
83 - Half-Life: Counter-Strike
82 - Battlezone
81 - Discs of Tron
80 - Excitebike
79 - Homeworld
78 - Secret of Mana
77 - Baseball Stars
76 - Rayman 2: The Great Escape
75 - Saturn Bomberman
74 - Pilotwings
73 - Galaga
72 - Pokemon Red/Blue Versions
71 - NCAA Football 2003
70 - System Shock 2
69 - Ghosts 'n Goblins
68 - Virtua Fighter 2
67 - Sam & Max Hit the Road
66 - Master of Magic
65 - Crimson Skies
64 - Shining Force II
63 - Baldur's Gate
62 - Herzog Zwei
61 - Tobal 2
60. MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat
59. Advance Wars
58. Resident Evil 2
57. Star Fox
56. Return Fire
55. Bionic Commando
54. Gunstar Heroes
53. Star Control II
52. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
51. Contra
50. Archon
49. Track & Field
48. Command & Conquer: Red Alert
47. SimCity 2000
46. Conker's Bad Fur Day
45. Alone in the Dark
44. DOOM
43. Final Fantasy III
42. NBA Jam
41. Battlefield 1942
40. Deus Ex
39. Halo: Combat Evolved
38. Soul Calibur
37. Madden '96
36. Super Smash Bros. Melee
35. Thief II: The Metal Age
34. Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty
33. Wave Race 64
32. Half-Life
31. Gauntlet
30. Metal Gear Solid
29. Star Wars
28. Super Mario World
27. Pirates!
26. Tecmo Bowl
25. Prince of Persia
24. Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2
23. Metroid Prime
22. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!s
21. Gran Turismo 3: A-spec
20. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
19. GoldenEye 007
18. Grand Theft Auto III
17. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
16. NHL '94
15. Civilization 2
14. Super Mario Kart
13. Ms. Pac-Man
12. Chrono Trigger
11. Star Wars: TIE Fighter
10. Street Fighter II
9. Final Fantasy II
8. X-COM: UFO Defense
7. Starcraft
6. Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
5. Super Mario 64
4. Tetris
3. Super Metroid
2. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
1. Super Mario Bros.



Where is Warcraft III? Its just as good as SC! Idiots... though I must admit, when I play SC then War3 I find myself saying "War3 is better in every technical way, has more gameplay features, has more variety of maps, and a better map editor... but SC is just, somehow, a bit better'... but WC3 SHOULD BE THERE! High on the list!

But seeing TIE Fighter so high is really great... that game definitely deserves it... and given this is a all-console list its amazing that they put it at #11. Cool, though... its certainly in my top 10.

Civ 2 being that high is also great to see. SC, TIE Fighter, and Civ 2 are 3 of my 5 favorite PC games... the others being WC3 and Planescape: Torment (the best RPG ever, IMO).

Mentioning Torment, where is that game? Though that's more excusable -- its a phenominal game for some but I can see how a lot of people could hate it... its a unique game in some ways and if you dislike the style it'd be easy to see not liking it at all. But still... its brilliant...

This is even worse than Game Informer's Top 100 List. No Mario 3, the best 2D Mario game? No Zelda 1? What the hell is the matter with them? It's sloppy, inconsistent, and completely nonsensical. Oh and WW isn't there because of a dealine or something like that. It came out before the list was made.

We should make our own list.

Its a solid list. Missing some great games sure, but there are so many great games that making a list is really hard. And their list is quite comprehensive... nice variety of old and new, PC, console, and arcade... sure I could come up with a lot of games that should be there. But it'd require taking off some games that I wouldn't want to remove... so overall I'd say its a decent list. Not satisfying everyone, but doing a decent enough job. Its not like they do absurd things or anything...

And did I mention that putting TIE Fighter that high gives it instant credibility? :)

Their list is crap. F-Zero gets put on their list but FZ-X doesn't??

Never said I agreed with all of it. Just that it's a decent list.

I've seen better.

Quote:85 - Final Fantasy X

85?

<b>85??? That's as high as they rated FFX?</b>

Disgusting. Utter blasphemy. This list is crap.

I was scared to death they would pull some stunt like putting FFVII at number 1. It was a little scattered, but I don't think it was as bad as you say OB1. They really tried to combine the best and most influential games ever, which is hard to do. Mario 3 was a better game than Mario 1 in just about every way, but there's no denying that Mario 1 meant a lot more to video games than Mario 3 did. So it's a tough balance.

This list is utter shit. Where's Xenogears? Where's Silent Hill? FF7? FF IV rated above FF VI!?

I seriously feel like hitting somebody.

Yes Mario 1 was much more influential than Mario 3, but Zelda 1 was also more influential than Oot or ALttP yet it's absent from the list. The list is crap, LL. Just admit it.

That list is just plain appalling---Sim City & Wolf at #93 & #94!? Doom is #44 ! I lost a lot of faith in IGN when they switched to pay, but not...christ.

Huh. I think its a good list... Starcraft, TIE Fighter, and Civ 2 in the top 20... OoT above LttP...

Sure I have complaints. No Warcraft III. No Torment. SMB above SMB3...

Plenty of other games there I wouldn't put on the list, but there are enough that I like (and the ones I don't are mostly pretty popular) that I think its a solid list.

The perfect list should satisfy no one but not make them think its completely worthless. I'd say it succeeds...

No it doesn't! What kind of screwed up logic is that? Because the list is so terrible and nonsensical it's good?

Oh, I completely agree that they were not consistent. I was thinking of the very same example you gave OB1. I think part of the problem is throwing 10-15 editors into the mix, you simply can't get any consistency. All that really matters to me is the Top 10 or so, and that I agree with a lot.

Yes, it makes no sense whatsoever. At least when EGM did their top 100 lists they decided on choosing 100 games that all of them would play for the rest of their lives if they were all stranded on a deserted island. Games that have near infinite replay value, ones that have only gotten better with age. The first time they made the list Tetris got the no.1 spot, but the second time they did it Super Metroid won. They followed one rule and one rule only. Personally, if I had to choose one game to play for the rest of my life it would probably be tetris. Even though I like several games more than Tetris, it is the most simple and replayable game ever made.

I just think that its not so awfully inconsistent. Sure its strange in some places but when you have that many people... it'll NEVER be perfect!

EGM has just as large of a staff yet they managed to get it right twice.

You had no disagreements with their list?

Oh, and IGN has a harder task. It has PC too.

True that it'll never be perect, but it can get a lot closer than that.

If they had followed their own guidlines for what gets on the list I'd be fine with it. But they didn't.

Musta read it too fast...where the hell is Chrono Cross????? Oh, Trigger was on there, that's nice, but Cross was soooooo much better!

They left out a whole crapload of great RPGs.

Because only so many of them can fit on a list that includes all genres.

Xenogears is better than FF X. So is CC.

At a certain level it gets hard to filter out one's personal opinions instead of actual quality...that list is unfiltered.