Tendo City

Yep.

So uh, you got a link there or...

All I see is one big fuzzy image. Why on earth would Nintendo need a facebook site? They HAVE a web page.

Apparently, according to GAF, the game has shown up in Gamestop systems as coming to the US as a Gamestop and Nintendo.com exclusive. Huh. Release date on their system is April. Huh. Whatever, I'll buy it for sure... I am really surprised though, I thought there was no chance now that we'd get it, it's been so long!

I'll order it from Nintendo.com. I'm done with Gamestop.

In other news, any chance of finally translating Mother 3 and sticking it on the Nintendo shop on the 3DS?

Yes, this is a great step, and I applaud Nintendo for it, but let's not forget that Nintendo's odd choices on games they simply refuse to release in America are the result of a very outdated business model.

Here's a link to Nintendo's announcement.

http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/09L...uz4zsz63F4

Better than a broken and rather pointless facebook link.

The link wasn't broken, did you not see the giant letters that said to "Like" the page in order to see the image? It was pretty obvious, I thought.

No, I didn't. That's pretty manipulative, forcing a positive vote on an announcement you can't see yet.

At any rate, it just confirms how utterly stupid the concept of a billion dollar company like Nintendo making a facebook page is. Better to stick with their own web site, the one they actually have full control of, the one with a full preview video on it.

Dark Jaguar Wrote:No, I didn't. That's pretty manipulative, forcing a positive vote on an announcement you can't see yet.

At any rate, it just confirms how utterly stupid the concept of a billion dollar company like Nintendo making a facebook page is. Better to stick with their own web site, the one they actually have full control of, the one with a full preview video on it.

But every big company has a Facebook page you just can't buy data mining that good. Examples, include Sony, Nintendo, Walmart, Bestbuy, and McDonalds. I have integrated a couple of sites with Facebook, and I can tell you first hand, you add the little "like" button to your site and you know everything about your customer. Every nasty detail, it's practically criminal.

How's that exactly? From what I can see all this "like" button is saying is that the viewer wants to see what the blurred image is. What else could that binary 1/0 switch possibly convey?

Dark Jaguar Wrote:How's that exactly? From what I can see all this "like" button is saying is that the viewer wants to see what the blurred image is. What else could that binary 1/0 switch possibly convey?

Well I suppose I breaking some sort of developers code by telling you this, but properly programmed the like button gives me access every juicy detail in your Facebook profile as well as the ability to spam your linked Facebook email accounts, private messages, and your Facebook friends email accounts and private messages.

Wow... that's pretty underhanded, and possibly illegal. Any "code" that requires THAT sort of secret to be kept has already betrayed you. Screw it.

Dark Jaguar Wrote:Wow... that's pretty underhanded, and possibly illegal. Any "code" that requires THAT sort of secret to be kept has already betrayed you. Screw it.

Always read you EULA, cause I've seen some shit that will make you crap a brick. Trust me, if you ever take the Security+ exam you'll see some shit that will scare the living crap out of you.

Dark Jaguar Wrote:Wow... that's pretty underhanded, and possibly illegal. Any "code" that requires THAT sort of secret to be kept has already betrayed you. Screw it.

BTW, I should point out, that if you "unlike" a company most of that damage is undone. For example that company can't send you email anymore or look at pics of your wild night in Vegas last week. The only thing is you have to find the original like button in order to unclick it and re cage all the Facebook daemons.

You can't put the genie back in the bottle. You and I both know that, if this is true, they're constantly storing this data themselves, so all they lose is future data.

Oh man, now Nintendo's going to find out that I linked to a New York Times article about the collapse of the housing market!

And, for the record, you could view the announcement on Facebook without liking Nintendo's page. Just mouse over to the sidebar and click "Wall". Ta-dah! There's your Xenoblade.

And there's no point in figuring out the peculiarities of Facebook's sight layout when Nintendo HAS A PAGE DEDICATED TO IT that provides a lot more information.

I gave Facebook a chance. I never got into it. Into the trash it goes.

All this arguing about Facebook when the real issue here is fuck Xenoblade.

How DARE they use the prefix "Xeno"! Square-Enix OWNS it because that's a word that never existed before Xenogears!

Best Xeno prefixed JRPG since Xenogears!

etoven Wrote:BTW, I should point out, that if you "unlike" a company most of that damage is undone. For example that company can't send you email anymore or look at pics of your wild night in Vegas last week. The only thing is you have to find the original like button in order to unclick it and re cage all the Facebook daemons.

This is purely anecdotal, but there are dozens of "liked" pages on my profile. Most if not all were imported in when facebook updated itself, and parsed out all of the in users' interests (which were originally typed in manually) and assigned them to liked pages. If you had Tom Waits or Terminator listed on your favorite music or movies sections, that text was cleared and you'd just get an icon that showed that interest.

Anyway, the only hassle created by these are that once every month or so, you might get one or two messages from these various pages promoting something. Mostly they're filtered out of your personal inbox, and I've never received an actual e-mail from facebook that was written / sent by a "liked" page. I see friends that like pages all the time and have never gotten anything from their pages. The most my own do is show up my news feed, but I can easily unsubscribe or unlike them.

I don't doubt that data mining is occuring though, but just don't put up anything you care about people knowing. Common sense.

"Oh man, guys, I just totally robbed this bank! Got about $500,000! "Like" this update if you're a fellow felon!"

Dark Jaguar Wrote:How DARE they use the prefix "Xeno"! Square-Enix OWNS it because that's a word that never existed before Xenogears!

YES THAT IS TOTALLY THE SOURCE OF MY IRE YOU SURE NAILED IT

Given the game has gotten mostly very high review scores your complaint probably isn't about quality, so what else could it be about other than that?

Yeah, it's really good, fun combat system and lots of gorgeous vistas to drool over. Story's okay, nothing really amazing, but at least it doesn't have characters that are just totally painful to watch [Star Ocean 4]. I'm glad it's finally getting released here.

He doesn't like that it's called Xenoblade without it being involved with the plot of Xenogears. Weltall, do you have a similar gripe with the Final Fantasy series? Those don't even share the same director, much less have anything to do with one another plotwise.

No. Xenogears was originally one in a series of six games. Instead of the other five, we get four Xenonothingtodowithgears. Final Fantasy was never intended to have continuity, so I never expected it to.

Since there seems to be so much confusion, how would you like if Nintendo made games that had nothing at all to do with the Zelda universe, characters, or concepts, yet insisted on putting "Zelda" in the titles because they're banking on name recognition to sell you something entirely different, while refusing to ever return to what Zelda originally was?

I bet you guys wouldn't like that very much. I bet that might irritate you guys somewhat.

So eat me.

That's not exactly a fair comparison. "Zelda" is a name of a major character that is unusual enough that it wouldn't pop up elsewhere unless as an intentional nod.

Xeno is a prefix meaning "other, outside, foreign". It has PLENTY of context to fit in with all manner of stories, and Xenoblade happens to have a very major overarching theme of outsiders mucking around with humanity, from what I understand.

Your anger at failing to actually make the first 4 episodes of Xenogears? I share it, but it's misplaced here. Sometimes, an author just wants to move ON with their life. Besides, considering what happened when they attempted to make the previous episodes, Xenosaga, it's probably a blessing. Xenogears is, fortunately, a self contained story who's only fault is a really short ending of everyone saying "yay!".

Xenogears is dead a buried, Weltall, it's never coming back. You gotta get over it, man!

Guy was planning to do five more fucking games?? God damn. That's a whole lot of room to give yourself before considering a project complete.

And I thought people who sought out to write a trilogy for the sake of it were stupid. ;)

Xenogears was episode 5 in a supposed series of 6.

Xenosaga started out as a project to make the other 5 chapters of the story, but that got abandoned early on when they realized it was a bad idea. Instead it morphed into a re-imagining of the first few chapters of the story but them mostly doing their own thing and not trying to worry about continuity or overtly connecting the games to Xenogears.

Oh, that makes a little more sense then.

That reminds me of Ogre Battle, they made like four parts out of a series that was supposed to have ten or twelve or something, and the games were all various numbers scattered around the series, not the first four... but that series doesn't have anything related to it still ongoing, really, unfortunately, and hasn't in a long time now.