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http://www.cnbc.com/

Article apparently isn't written yet, but it's in the headline there. I just saw this on the news. I hadn't realized just how bad his health was.
Very sad news, sure I dislike many of his products but he was one of the most important people in home computing history. It's pretty sad that he died at just 56. :(
Give it a week and he'll be doing press announcements for Apple's new product, the iRevive.
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Why are we revering the guy? He wasn't a visionary in anything but marketing, and marketing is run by satan. Also, he was a pretty awful human being and his company is trying hard to out-monopoly Microsoft.

I mean, sucks to die like he did, but he was just a highly-driven asshole with a personality cult, and his greatest achievement was being a corporate predator.
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?????????!!!!!!!! STEVE JOBS WAS A SAINT, A BETTER MAN THAN JESUS CHRIST HE EVEN CURED SUPER-AIDS AND SHOT FOODS FROM HIS HANDS TO FEED STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











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I'm hardly "revering" him. I agree that the lionizing goes too far with claims he "invented" the MP3 player or the mouse or the GUI. However, he is one of the big heavies who helped push computers to where they are now. He did contribute more than just marketing.
Weltall Wrote:Why are we revering the guy? He wasn't a visionary in anything but marketing, and marketing is run by satan. Also, he was a pretty awful human being and his company is trying hard to out-monopoly Microsoft.

I mean, sucks to die like he did, but he was just a highly-driven asshole with a personality cult, and his greatest achievement was being a corporate predator.
True, he may have been a angry asshole who once choked a guy for not working hard enough.. But more importantly, he was one of the greatest innovators this planet has ever seen, hands down. His product designs made computers easier to use for whole new generations. The software he helped design that ran iphones, and Macs led the way in Gooie innovations. Innovations like the application dock, keep our desktop clutter free, and Mac only things like extension and font suitcases, and the finder revolutionized the way computers can be configured.

Drag the extension to the extension suit case, and gain its power. How awesome is that.
Repackaging other people's inventions is innovative?
Steve Jobs (along with Wozniak) is one of the most important people in the history of personal computers, you know, thanks to the Apple II most notably... that was an incredibly important computer. They were some of the first people to sell computers that people could actually own and use without having to actually assemble it yourself. You have to respect the importance of that...

As for what he's done at Apple in the last fifteen years, I do disagree with some of his design decisions and products, certainly, but that doesn't mean he's done no good. Oh, and with how controlling Jobs was, he had a role in almost everything Apple released while he was running the company...

etoven Wrote:True, he may have been a angry asshole who once choked a guy for not working hard enough.. But more importantly, he was one of the greatest innovators this planet has ever seen, hands down. His product designs made computers easier to use for whole new generations. The software he helped design that ran iphones, and Macs led the way in Gooie innovations. Innovations like the application dock, keep our desktop clutter free, and Mac only things like extension and font suitcases, and the finder revolutionized the way computers can be configured.

Drag the extension to the extension suit case, and gain its power. How awesome is that.
Yeah, and stuff like that is important as well.
Weltall Wrote:Repackaging other people's inventions is innovative?
When Apple came out with the IPhone, it wasn't a repackaged invention, there was nothing like it on the market. It set a completely new standard for smart phones, and also there's the other innovations I talked about in the Mac operating system like the doc, extension folders (called suitcases on the mac), the finder, plus a hole slew of awesome things you can only get on a mac.. Steve Jobs may have stole the concept of a Gooie from xerox, but at the same time he completely reinvented the concept and made it his own. Apple took a xerox gooie that only ran on copiers, and completely re-imagined it into the modern gooie OS's we see today. Xerox may have come up with the idea, but we wouldn't have what we have today, with out Steve Jobs to flip it on its end, and make it usable.