Tendo City

:FuckYou:

Was it all just a dream?

Even better!

It's been over an hour and I'm still kinda reeling from the catharsis. An expertly done finale, and a historic piece of television. Amazing.

It was horrible, especially the last fifteen minutes. It's hard to come up with a worse ending, other than perhaps two and half hours of just a blank screen.

Great Rumbler Wrote:It was horrible, especially the last fifteen minutes. It's hard to come up with a worse ending, other than perhaps two and half hours of just a blank screen.

Are you mad? What's wrong with you? Or is you trollin'?

I'm giving straight truth. Most of the episode was merely okay, setting aside the fact that the much-hyped "All your questions will be answered" and "War is coming" ending up being bold-faced lies, but the final fifteen minutes was just so mind-blowingly stupid. You could actually feel the writers willing you to feel extreme sadness.

Quote:Are you mad?

Yes.

Great Rumbler Wrote:I'm giving straight truth. Most of the episode was merely okay, setting aside the fact that the much-hyped "All your questions will be answered" and "War is coming" ending up being bold-faced lies, but the final fifteen minutes was just so mind-blowingly stupid. You could actually feel the writers willing you to feel extreme sadness.

I'm not sure what kind of a "war" you expected with a cast of about 10-15 people, but the clash between good and evil was fairly obvious.

As for questions, I got some answers. I don't think they ever intended to answer everything, and really, would you want them to? Mystery has always been the shows hallmark and it wouldn't be right if it didn't leave some behind in it's wake, some for the audience to come to their own conclusions about.

And the ending was quite good. It tied it all up, and it all ended perfectly full circle.

How would you have done it?

Yeah, mystery is nice and part of what has made the show so interesting over the years. But now that mystery feels more like the writers just made stuff up as they went and then tossed them in the end because they were never going to fit with everything else.

The ending was just so gooey and saccharine. On top of making no real sense at all. Just another one of those "Welp, you'll just have to accept this, guys, because we don't know how it works either!" kind of situations that's basically become the rule on the show.

Quote:How would you have done it?

I've heard a few good ideas for tweaking the ending to make it a lot better, but anything I would have done with the show would've required a complete rewrite of the entire final season. Tossing the psuedo-science in the last episodes for full-on battling gods was something that I never liked. It also gave them an excuse for leaving so many things unexplained.

Why only certain people though, why not everyone? Why did important characters get left out and only semi-important characters get prominence? How did this purgatory even come into being in the first place?

More than anything else though, I want to forget all about this finale and watch some MST3K. It's one show that I know will never let me down.

Great Rumbler Wrote:Why only certain people though, why not everyone? Why did important characters get left out and only semi-important characters get prominence? How did this purgatory even come into being in the first place?

More than anything else though, I want to forget all about this finale and watch some MST3K. It's one show that I know will never let me down.

That was the point, though. This place was meant for them and only them because they were all important to one another in life. They needed each other then, and they need each other now.

MST has had some stinkers too in it's history, and you know it :p

But the finale was no such thing. From what I've read online, you're in quite the minority my friend ;)

Finale stank, stank, stank. They could've done great things, but they settled for a goopy, saccharine-filled, love-fest of stupidly horrible proportions. And that's it. I'm done talking about this show.

Great Rumbler Wrote:Finale stank, stank, stank. They could've done great things, but they settled for a goopy, saccharine-filled, love-fest of stupidly horrible proportions. And that's it. I'm done talking about this show.

Fair enough. But the show has always been character driven, and it ended as such. Bravo to them, a virtuoso performance.

I don't even know how it began, because I never watched a single episode.

I watched one of the earlier seasons, I could never really follow it.

Holy shit I predicted that ending..... it becomes the island of lost souls, and it was so silent hill the way the first episode was crashing in a plane. Ryan do you remember bullshitting about the ending?

Jesus. HOWEVER I am much more interested in Flash Forward, V and the Mentalist!

Everything that happened on the island was real. The "side flashes" from Season 6 were purgatory where all the Losties went once they died.

So they weren't dead? I dont understand.

Does anyone here watch Flash Forward? That show kicks my ass. Also V and the Mentalist. V's writing is pretty good but the Mentalist has the best writing i've ever seen in a television show, even the dialogue is fluid and natural plus the acting is spot on. Good show is good.

Flash Forward is stunning, the last episode (SPOILERS IF YOU CONTINUE READING) had Mark drinking, it made me all teary eyed. And it's completely believable because it's motivated, not like other shows where it's like oh here's a hospital and CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN HERE, so it feels like the most eventful hospital in the world.

I dont get in to TV shows often, but I put Mentalist and Flash Forward up there with Quantum Leap and Star Trek: NG. V has some catching up to do, so far the original has been better especially considering it was TV's 'Star Wars'.

Quote:So they weren't dead? I dont understand.

Everything that happened to them on the island actually happened. It was a dream or a fantasy or purgatory or anything like that.

BUT, once they died, either on the island or much later after some of them managed to escape, they went to a purgatory where they relived their lives without Jacob's influence and where Oceanic 815 never crashed. Once they all met up again and realized where they were and what had happened to them, they left purgatory for heaven. Or whatever.