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Its a pretty sad story , Ive said some nasty thing about arabs myself after 9/11 but I absolutely regret it. One of my chess partners in a tournament am playing in is A Arab named Ali who I call Al.He is the top player in the league and a very soft spoken polite person.
Personally I dont understand why these white supremacist groups or any other racist groups are permited to exist.
There are skin heads in every single town across north american including mine , I hope the goverment will realize their existence must be put to an end , Some are racist because of someone mother language or the color of their skin.
My father and his freinds were beaten up by skin heads when they were kids so was my brother , Just because were french.
These nazi , KKK groups should be rounded up and face captital punnishment for promoting hate crimes and terrorism.Like Timothy Mc veigh.
It all spawns from ignorance. Ignorance is the reason why most people think that Islam is an evil religion just because of those fundamentalists who distort everything in the Quran (it's just like the Crusades with Christianity), and why people make fun of those with "towel-heads" because they think that only terrorists dress like that.
The Turban is really a regional custom, The only group that it has more meaning too is the Sikes and Hindo's.
I hate white suprmacist they are the type of thugs that are school bullies, To me it should be punnishable by death.
Well, while American freedoms are usually a great thing, they also give organizations like the KKK the right to exist. And the KKK is rarely active anymore anyway. I think a lot of these incidents are caused by individual stupidity.
But I gotta disagree with Islam being peaceful. Many Muslim nations are ruled by fundamentalist theocracies, and is there any other religion that Islamic fundamentalists AREN'T trying to eliminate?
I'm sorry, but when the Muslim world is the epicenter for most of the world's violence, I can't call it peaceable.
I see Weltall's point there. It doesn't seem right now that their religion is a peaceful one, but obviously the individual isn't being judged here. There's plenty who aren't a member of these radical groups. I'm sure there are also some peaceful sects of this religion. It's just that unfortunatly the cultish versions outnumber the peaceful sects.
Yes, incidents like these stem from pure idiocy. However, our nation gives people the right to be morons. The KKK is the biggest group of morons one has ever heard of, and yet at the same time they have the rights to think what they will and peacebly assemble. Of course, their idea of a peaceful assembly is one where they try as hard as possible to goat "minorities" (I hate that term) into attacking them so they can "proove" something.
Yeah, Islam isn't necessarially a violent religion any more than Christianity... both have nuts on the wings who do think that God wants them to kill people, but they aren't the majority. Its very sad to see the majority persecuted for the minority's crimes...
Oh, and the KKK and similar groups are permitted to exist for very good reasons. I hate them as much as anyone, but would NEVER say that they should be disbanded (unless they commit violence, obviously) for just speaking their opinions. That is called "free speech". And views you dislike are protected too... as long as they don't involve violence.
Quote: I'm sorry, but when the Muslim world is the epicenter for most of the world's violence, I can't call it peaceable.
Diddo...thats sad, and I have nothing against most arabs I suppose; but come on now.
The key word being fundamentalism here, Weltall. It's the very same thing that started the Crusades and other such atrocities done in the name of religion.
Prejudice, violence, racism, sexism, homophobic... ness, heterophobicness (it probably exists, though I've never heard of it)... those are some of the things that make this world corrupt. As a lot of you have already said, it all comes down to ignorance. I've never shown racism towards Arabs and never do I intend to. And though there are a lot of terrible people out there who call themselves Muslims, not all Muslims are bad people. I see people who wear turbans at my school quite frequently, and they're among the better behaved students in the school.
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The key word being [b]fundamentalism here, Weltall. It's the very same thing that started the Crusades and other such atrocities done in the name of religion. [/B]
But fundamentalism is very very strong in the Muslim world. Most Islamic individuals I don't think are bloodthirsty, but the Muslim world is a large source of the world's strife. I believe that has more to do with Islamic culture being so pathetic and backwards than the religion itself, but you can't deny the fact that the Fundamentalists control Islam for the most part, and those fundamentalists are very dangerous.
That is very true, but that's not what I was talking about. Most people assume that all of Islam is what we see from the fundamentalists, which couldn't be further from the truth. Bill O'Reilly even compared the Quran to Mein Kampf when that one University (I forgot which one) made it mandatory for students to read parts of the Quran to better understand the religion. And while I don't agree with forcing students to read the Quran, O'Reilly's remarks show just how ignorant most of America is when it comes to non-Christian religions. And he's supposed to be the smart and reasonable one.
WHOA WHOA FUCKING WHOA! skinheads are NOT racists...i repeat NOT RACISTS.
i'll admit that it's terrible that racism occurs, and white supremecists are pieces of shit, but skinheads are not racists. allow me to give a brief history of the skinhead.
it all started in england in the 50's with a group of kids called the mods. these kids were working class, but tried to look rich by buying expensive italian suits. in the 60's a bunch of these kids got together and said "you know what, we're proud to be working class." and they shaved their heads to look like the boys on the docks, who to them were the epitomy of working class. being a skin was about being working class, and it still is. it didn't matter if you were black, white, asian, anything. if you were a skin, you were a brother.
then, in the early 70's the British National Front, a neo nazi organization decided to target skins to join their group. this was effective because there were a lot of immigrants at the time "stealing" their jobs and pissing them off as well as the rastafarian movement in england which turned a lot of black skins into black supremecists. so many a skinhead converted to the nazi party.
when the skinhead craze hit the US in the 70's and 80's it was the nazi skin that appeared, and it wasn't until the mid 80's that "trad skin" (traditional skinhead) culture came over as well as the "SHARP" skins (skinheads against racial prejudice), who are extremely opposed to racism (as their name suggests).
in fact, skins were the forefathers of the punks, who are rather known to be non-racist.
my point here is this: neo nazi skins aren't skins at all, their just stupid bigots. skinheads are a greatly misunderstood group of people, especially here in the states and i find that to be a shame, and so i'm spreading the word.
i've met quite a few skinheads in my day who were really great guys and certainly not nazi's, or racists, or anything of that sort...in fact, i've met a few skins who were beaten up by skinheads for being suspected of being nazi's...that's how touchy these guys are to the prejudice that surrounds THEM.
like i said, white supremecy is ridiculous, and white supremecists should be taken care of, but don't use skinhead as a term to label someone as racist, it isn't fair.
Ahah, so there's this whole other culture I've never heard of with people shaving their heads to be in it eh? Weird... They seem to be "the forefathers of the punks". I consider punks to be a boil on society's collective arse, so even if they aren't racist, I still don't see why I should like the rest of them.
Now's the time for you to explain that there is actually a group called "the punks" which are nothing like the average punk that's just a total jerk, and then tell us to stop calling people punks because of that.
Quote:But fundamentalism is very very strong in the Muslim world. Most Islamic individuals I don't think are bloodthirsty, but the Muslim world is a large source of the world's strife. I believe that has more to do with Islamic culture being so pathetic and backwards than the religion itself, but you can't deny the fact that the Fundamentalists control Islam for the most part, and those fundamentalists are very dangerous.
Ahahaha... you actually seem to believe that Chrisitian fundamentalists aren't as bad... uh, NO.
Yes, there is lots of unrest in Arab nations. No, there is NOT unrest and terror from all Islamic nations. The true hatred and terror sponsorship is mostly from Arab nations. Other ethnic groups that are Islamic aren't the same... while some sponsor terrorism, its not to the extent or with nearly as much state support as it has in some Arab states. Does Iran support terrorism? Sure... but their terrorism is not popularly supported by the majority, I think, as the overwhelmingly Reformist parliament shows... its mostly the radicals. Of which every nation has many, but in that nation happen to have control.
It'd be like if Pat Robertson's violent twin had control of the US Government... or Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, or the like...
Pakistan? Popular support for hard Islamism, sure. Some support for terrorists in Kashmir? Yeah. But that's a history and pride issue, not religion... and there isn't other government terrorism sponsorship...
And how about Malaysia and Indonesia? Both have HUGE Islamic populations -- Indonesia has the most Moslems of any nation on the planet -- and they are peaceful.
So why is this happening in Arab states? Well, violent fundamentalist leaders are one problem, true. And those people get the people angry and get them to become terrorist bombers, or get leaders to give money to terror. I don't know all the reasons, but some pretty good guesses would come from 1) Israel/Palestine; and 2) Its the Islam's holy land. Both seem to have incited people such as Bin Laden to try to destroy us... and really, Israel is the core of the problem.
Does anyone think that if the problem with the Palestinians was sorted out and solved that there'd still be a big, permanant, and worsening problem with this? I sure hope not... though with THIS president, anything's possible. After people who think like him leave, anyway.
i never argued that punks weren't jerks, many of them are...to non-punks. and i never argued that the non-racist skins weren't a bunch of trouble makers, as they do their share of making trouble. all i was saying was that punks are non-racist, and have been in favor of unity since their inception, and that they are a spin-off culture of the trad skins, and that originally, skinheads weren't racist, and that there's a good deal of non-racist skins out there (maybe even more than there are racist skins).
the problem is that the racist skin in america came first, and so people like to associate skinheads with being racist...which isn't rad.
and just because you've never heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist, as they do. to annyone who deosn't believe me i suggest checking your local library for "Spirit of '69" if you can find it there, or the novel "american skin". both are great books about skinhead culture that go a great deal into dispelling the myth about skinheads as nazis.
if you can't find the above books at you local library, or don't care enough to check, amazon.com i believe, has book reviews for spirit of '69, among the reviewers are black and asian skinheads. it shouldn't eat up too much of your time to at least glance at those.
finally, i can't see why you wouldn't believe me as it seems like an aweful lot for me to just make up for fun.
and further feul for my fire... i'll bring myself into this. i have never in my life been a white supremecist as i don't dig supremecty as a whole...every race should be equal and the people within each race should be judged on individual merits. but for a period of my life i considered myself a skinhead and had a shaved head. then i decided that i agreed more with the punk philosophy and dropped the skinhead thing...but i still have a shirt that says "skinhead" on it, and wear it proudly as a punk. i do this because i hope for the day when someone sees the shirt and asks me why it says skinhead and i can tell them that skinheads aren't racists.
this is sort of a mission that i'm on at this point in my life...and i'm glad that i got the chance to bring it up here. because like i said, the skins that i've met have been really great guys, and i hate the negative image that they've aquired here in the states.
Punk "philosophy"? What might that be? Don't take no (double negative by the way, stop saying that) karp from nobody? Beat up little kids that annoy you? Start fights because you are "defending your views" without even thinking if your views are actually being threatened? Go to jail and be all like "yeah I do my time, but ya know, I'd do it again, ya gotta stand up for what you believe ya know?" even though someone just disagreed with you once casually and you burned down their house? Punks have the worst "philosophy" on the whole frickin' planet, no offense. Maybe you act differently and just CALL yourself a punk. If you happen to be nice, you aren't a punk. Wait a sec, aren't you the guy who told me once you see NO problem on going on a killing spree if you know for a fact you are going to die that day because the only thing that makes stuff wrong is the consequences? Oh no...
Don't worry. Though it sounded like it, I wasn't really doubting the existance of them. It's just funnier if I say it that way.
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Ahahaha... you actually seem to believe that Chrisitian fundamentalists aren't as bad... uh, NO.
Yes, there is lots of unrest in Arab nations. No, there is NOT unrest and terror from all Islamic nations. The true hatred and terror sponsorship is mostly from Arab nations. Other ethnic groups that are Islamic aren't the same... while some sponsor terrorism, its not to the extent or with nearly as much state support as it has in some Arab states. Does Iran support terrorism? Sure... but their terrorism is not popularly supported by the majority, I think, as the overwhelmingly Reformist parliament shows... its mostly the radicals. Of which every nation has many, but in that nation happen to have control.
It'd be like if Pat Robertson's violent twin had control of the US Government... or Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, or the like...
Pakistan? Popular support for hard Islamism, sure. Some support for terrorists in Kashmir? Yeah. But that's a history and pride issue, not religion... and there isn't other government terrorism sponsorship...
And how about Malaysia and Indonesia? Both have HUGE Islamic populations -- Indonesia has the most Moslems of any nation on the planet -- and they are peaceful.
So why is this happening in Arab states? Well, violent fundamentalist leaders are one problem, true. And those people get the people angry and get them to become terrorist bombers, or get leaders to give money to terror. I don't know all the reasons, but some pretty good guesses would come from 1) Israel/Palestine; and 2) Its the Islam's holy land. Both seem to have incited people such as Bin Laden to try to destroy us... and really, Israel is the core of the problem.
Does anyone think that if the problem with the Palestinians was sorted out and solved that there'd still be a big, permanant, and worsening problem with this? I sure hope not... though with THIS president, anything's possible. After people who think like him leave, anyway.
Fundamentalists of any stripe are just as bad, but Christian fundamentalists have no power. They are the guys who shoot their mouths off and make asses of themselves, but they are in little position to actually cause trouble. The days of popular Christian fundamentalism are dead many long years.
But a small correction: Israel is the Jewish holy land. Mecca and Medina are the Muslim holy lands. And the Jews have the first claim to Israel. And Israel was willing to share some of the parts more important to Araby. They refused, as they wanted the whole thing.
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Fundamentalists of any stripe are just as bad, but Christian fundamentalists have no power. They are the guys who shoot their mouths off and make asses of themselves, but they are in little position to actually cause trouble. The days of popular Christian fundamentalism are dead many long years.
But a small correction: Israel is the Jewish holy land. Mecca and Medina are the Muslim holy lands. And the Jews have the first claim to Israel. And Israel was willing to share some of the parts more important to Araby. They refused, as they wanted the whole thing.
The jews had no claim to isreal in 1949, They lost their homeland when they romans destroyed Jerusalem and displaced the jews throuhout the world.
What happen in Isreal in modern times was the same as what the european settlers did to the natives in forced resettlement in the new world.
But the palestianians were forced to give up their homes to jewish settlers who could not prove ownership of that land.
Once britain left the Arabs tried to take back the land but failed miserably to Isreali armed forces, As a result lost even more land to the jews.
If you ever looked at a map of isreal and palestine you would notice the jews control 80% of the land which waisnt part of the orginal arrangement that britian and the U.S created, Palestinian terroritories are isolated and scatterd witthin Jewish ones.
Though I agree the terrorist attacks on Isreal are barbaric and alot of these islamic fundementalist groups are to hateful to ever accept peace.
I think we should listen to each side first before making a clear decision.
First, the Dome of the Rock is Islam's third most holy site after Mecca and Medina. Remember, its got a connection to Mohammed... I don't remember what, though.
Quote:Fundamentalists of any stripe are just as bad, but Christian fundamentalists have no power. They are the guys who shoot their mouths off and make asses of themselves, but they are in little position to actually cause trouble. The days of popular Christian fundamentalism are dead many long years.
True... they have no power other than making idiots of themselves on national TV.
As for Israel, the Jews wanted a homeland, which is a resonable request... and Israel is the most obvious place for one... and once the British agreed it was a done deal. Now, if the Arabs had just accepted it and agreed to take in the Palestinians there wouldn't have been a problem. Look at Jordan (which, by the way, was part of Palestine under British rule). Its 80% Palestinian refugees... but do they intergrate all of them fully in the society? No. Many are still in camps. Same in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt... the Arab world's hatered of Jews and refusal to accept the obvious has caused this whole problem.
At this point, peace looks so unlikely... what with people in control of both Israel and Palestine who have no intrest in real peace... and its too bad. The situation is so bad, and its causing so much unrest in the middle east (it really is at the core of the whole problem of the Arabs hating us) that we REALLY must do something... sure we may fail like Clinton did, but at least we can try...
i don't know of any punks who burn down houses for the fun of it...or behave in any of the ways you've said
and i never said it was ok to go on a killing spree if you were going to die the next day...
i found this "what is a skinhead" story on a website, it talks about what they stand for and what their about.
Punk philosophy is a lot like the skinhead philosophy listed in the first paragrah of this mighty read, but there's a heavier emphasis on liking punk music over other types. there's also a less formal way of living, which i found attractive. and finally skinheads are more like jocks, they pride themselves on being big and tough, the punks do not...and that's why i am a punk, not a skin.
What is a Skinhead?
A Skinhead is a person that takes pride in who he is. Who takes pride in standing up for himself, his mates and his beliefs - no matter what people might think of him. He takes pride in the way he acts, the way he dresses, the way he supports himself, takes pride in his mates and doesn't take shit from anyone. A Skinhead listens to the same music as Skinheads have always done. Otherwise he wouldn't be a Skinhead. He would be something else. A Skinhead is somehow a kinda 1960 nostalgic with views of 2000 combined.
What does he stand for?
No two skinheads are the same in political meaning. But significant for what all (or most anyway) skinheads stand for are his mates, his beer and his right to have a laugh and have a say (I know its a cliché, but its the truth!). He stands up for his team and he stands for his way of life: being a Skinhead!
What are his political beliefs?
As said before: No two skinheads are the same. BUT no true Skinhead is racist or nazi! It has never been that way and it will never be that way. The bastards you see on the streets shouting Sieg Heil and shite like that are no more than BONEHEADS! Other than that, Skinhead has nothing to do with politics. We all have different opinions on political issues but it has nothing to do with the fact that we're Skinheads. Amongst the ranks of Skinheads you'll probably find reds, rights, liberals, conservatives and all that crap. That's fine.... as long as you dont shove it down my throat.
Are all Skinheads nazi's/rascists?
Nope. No Skinhead is nazi or rascist. Cause if he is, he wouldnt be a Skinhead. Well, there are people dressing like Skinheads and they support nazi parties and shit like that, but..... They're not Skinheads in the true meaning.
What kind of music does he listen to?
Some skins listen to this and some skinheads listen to that. Some are more into Reggae/SKA & soul when some are more into punk and Oi! In the States the skins have adopted Hardcore for some reason. But mainly the music skins listen to is:
Punk - Well, you know what punk is.
Oi! - Kinda punkish but a bit more aggressive and more skinhead related lyrics.
SKA - A faster kind of Reggae and with more backbeat.
Reggae - Old Skinhead reggae and some of the reagge you hear on the radio.
Soul - Well..... soul. Not that RnB Whitney Houston crap though. Older shit. Northern Soul.
Hardcore - Dunno. You have to ask the Yankees.
What kinda clothes does he wear?
A Skinhead's wardrobe has a wide range of clothes depending on what you like of course. Some like the more original look and other like the more 70s punk related skinhead look. BUT it's always clean and tough. But mainly:
Ben Sherman shirts, Fred Perrys, Donkey jackets, Harrington jackets, Bomber jackets (Alpha Industries), Dr Marten boots (And no - the colour of your laces doesn't make you this or that), loafers, braces (A wide range of colours), chlorine bleached jeans, Sta-Prest, Jeans (Levi's originally), Crombie coats, Lonsdale shirts and sweaters and so on and so on. The list can be made longer. But the most important thing is that the Skinhead look is clean, smart and tough. A Skinhead looks like a hard tough motherfucker at the same time as he looks like your mother-in-law's golden boy if you know what I mean.
Why do you become a Skinhead?
Because of the music and.... Well it's kinda hard to explain. But once you've gotten deeper into the skinhead cult and started to understand what it's really about there's no way back. Skinhead is the ultimate way of life. But mostly, I guess, it's because of the music and the clothes, the friendship, the beers and the laughs.
What is the difference between Skinheads of 1969 and Skinheads of 2000?
What is the difference between the society of -69 and -00? Skins of today have to face different problems than the skins of -69 had to face. We have the racist problem to deal with. None of us wants to be mistaken for a nazi-pervert. I don't think the blokes of -69 had that problem for example. We have a totally different economic situation today. Working class in the true meaning is, in Sweden anyway, as good as gone. Today it's more a state of mind than a position in society. Better communication between skins (Internet for example) and I don't think the Skinhead crews fight amongst each other the same way they did in -69. Well, the list could be made longer....
Are all Skinheads the same?
Yeah, we all eat babies, sniff glue and we all support the same football team.... No, of course not. We all have different views, hobbies, occupations, mothers and fathers and that makes us very different from each other at the same time as we are very alike.
Dress like a group - act as an individual.
Why are Skinheads so violent?
What kinda question is that?!? You wanna get yer head kicked in?!? No, honestly. I can't speak for all skinheads but most of the skins I know are a bit violent. I can't deny that. My only answer to that is that if you constantly attack, verbal and physical, a person will turn around one day and give it back to you. Skinheads have always been attacked and we just won't take it anymore. But then again... Violence is fun! :)
Are all Skinheads violent?
Nope. We're all different. But most of the skins I have met and know are violent. No need to lie about that.
Skin heads are a street gang regardless of were the name came from ,today most Skins head groups ive heard of have a racist theology.
In my town the police raided and arrested groups of skin heads who were living in a house which when they discoverd it was full of weapons and Nazi flags and emblems.
Not to mention a couple bags full of Cochain.
I love cochain. Cocoa + chains = teh awesome.
like i said, if they're a racist, they aren't a skinhead. the skins have a name for the nazi's claiming to be skinheads....they call them boneheads. skins=good, bones=bad.
Why are the majority racist groups?
Yeah, skinheads usually seem to be racist to me anyway...
Oh, and what about the only topic here that really matters: the other one, about the Middle East and religion? :)
Fuck, now ASM has a stupid Goron avatar.
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I guess it might be good since we can just consider him and Darunia to be the same person.
Sure, both are annoying, but Darunia's grammar isn't as bad... huge difference there! His sometimes strange comments are at least understandable...
the reason why most people associate skins with racism is that like i said, the racist "skin" in america came first...so people are quick to make the association. not to mention that the stupid neo-nazi's love to call themselves skinheads, because they believe that they actually are. also, the media always likes to label them as racists, if any race related crime happens it wasn't the neo-nazi's with shaved heads, it was the skins...it's a cycle perpetuated by ignorance...and i'm just trying to enlighten people, an attempt to break the cycle.
on to the topic at hand...isreal, the middle east, it's a big mess. but the way i understand it, the palestineans had no claim to the land that was given to the isreali's after world war 2...it was british owned, and the palestineans were scattered nomadic tribes living in the area. so i feel that the isreali's have every right to be there.
i don't however feel that they're innocent of any attrocities they've commited against the palestineans since then. that is to say that the isrealis handle the situation there just as poorly as the palestineans do, and both sides need to just give it up and move on.
With the Israeli-Palestinian thing, there are some interesting things to point out. I'm trying to be concise.
1. Jerusalem is the most holy city of Judaism. Jerusalem is the 3rd most holy city of Islam. The (symbolic?) Western Wall of Soloman's temple is within 50 meters of where Mohammed tended his horse before going up to heaven, talking with God at the Dome of the Rock, and returning to Earth. The Dome of the Rock and the Wailing Wall are incredibly close together for such religiously important sites.
2. The earliest Israeli claim to the land stems back to the Bible. The earliest Arab claim is several centuries (if not a millenia) old.
3. Recent claims to Palestine stem from two documents: The Hussein-McMahon correspondence and the Balfour Declaration. In the Hussein-McMahon Correspondence (1915), Britain (given authority over parts of the middle-east in the Treaty of Versaille) promises that, with the exception of Mersina, Alexandretta, and the districts to the West of Damascus, Homs, Hama, and Aleppo, Arabs will be granted statehood. The Balfour Declaration promises the Zionist Federation (a European Jewish Association) a Jewish home in Palestine. In both of these agreements, Britain is purposefully vague. While Palestine is not to the West of the line segment that connects Damascus to Aleppo, if the line segment is extrapolated, it includes Palestine. Yet Egypt is also to the West of this extrapolation, and Britain had no intentions of keeping Egypt. In addition, Britain does not include a map which would peg them down to concrete promises. They speak of "regions" and "districts," none of which are named as such. In the Balfour Declaration, Britain promises a home for Jews in Palestine, but guarentees no statehood or governmental role. They purposefully change "The Nation Home of Palestine" in the Zionist-proposed agreement to, "a national home in palestine," a much more vague committment.
4. Sorry about #3, so I'll try to sum up 35 years of history in less than 300 pages: Arab noncompliance versus Israeli cooperation. It can be simplified to a familiar childhood situation: The teacher is giving out the toys in nursery school. One child's strategy to get the blocks is to show that he can play responsibly. The other's strategy is to ignore the teacher's authority and refuse to participate in the "sharing" of the blocks. But the teacher recognizes that the troublesome boy deserves more of the blocks more than the cooperative boy despite their actions (population and land ownership-wise). The teacher proposes an Israel that is about a quarter of the size of today's Israel, and it doesn't include Jerusalem. The cooperative boy accepts the deal, while the uncooperative boy rejects it. The uncooperative boy becomes more brazen (and terrorist actions begin). Finally, the teacher has had enough. She's getting out of there. And her final proposal is that Palestine will be controlled by Arabs within 5 years and the Jewish population (and thus representation in the Parliament) will be limited to 1/3 of the country. The uncooperative boy refuses, demanding immediate and complete control of the blocks. The once-cooperative boy gets pissed. He feels betrayed. While simultaneously fighting alongside the teacher in WWII, the once-cooperative boy is carrying out terrorist acts on Arabs and British police forces in Palestine. But during WWII, the uncooperative boy goes to the enemy of the teacher (Hitler) to coordinate a deal. After the Holocaust, it becomes apparent that Jews need their own state in Palestine. Israel declares independence in 1948, and the UN and US recognize the nation almost immediately. Simultaneously, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and practically every Arab nation declares war on Israel. The Israeli military is involved in removing Arabs from Israeli territory. Undeground Israeli terrorist organizations are involved in the killing of an entire Arab village at Deir Yassin. Israel is faced with the problem that a Jewish state that is more than 50% Arab is not a Jewish state, and to accomplish this, they remove Arab civilians. This is what sparks the refugee issue that Black Falcon has mentioned. Jordan and other Arab countries do nothing to assimilate these refugees, Israel is unwilling to take them back, and the refugees themselves want to return to Palestine...
There's a lot of history left, but I find that focusing on history leads one to conclude with could-haves and should-haves. What can be done now? Well, the current Israeli policy against Palestinian violence is as such: you kill my brother, I'll kill you and flatten your entire village. If anyone has ever studied history, they know that this overreaction strategy often leads to martyrs and a STRENGTHENING of the resolve of the enemy. The United States, with its traditional polarized lens, refuses to openly censure Israel for its policies and weapons programs. This has led the Arab world to believe that the United States is a biased judge. To peacefully solve this, we must prove that we can be even-handed.