I think the last time we had a similar post, my answer was Resident Evil Zero. Having said that, I am today probably on the last legs of my passed WoW days... after four years, I've finally fallen out of it. You may all be surprised to know that I never really play videogames anymore. I bought a Wii, played it once, and never went back to it... and that was the last time I owned a new console.
And the rest of you?
Currently playing:
Super Mario 64 (N64/Wii Virtual Console)
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (DS)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES)
Recently finished:
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (WiiWare)
Wii Sports Resort, specifically Table Tennis. I'm an 1800 player and my score is increasing with each game.
Yes I have converted to Nintendoism and now regard the Sony PlayStation as heatheness vaporware.
Shit I've played recently
Super Mario Bros Wii
A shitty dragon ball game
Wii Sports
My wee wee
I've been playing New Super Mario Bros. Wii whenever I get the chance. I tried to get going with Borderlands for 360, but it didn't really suck me in.
I've been meaning to get the New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but I haven't gotten around to it. I recently got Mario Kart Wii for Christmas (forgot to add that to my list) and I play it in spurts here and there.
I actually played Mega Man III (GB) for like a week straight because it was just amazing, which is pretty rare for me given how for quite a while now I can never focus on any one game for any length of time, no matter if I like it or not... I'm like "that's a good game" and then I move on to something else I've gotten... it's the problem with buying too many games and not being able to decide for sure on playing them in any kind of order, I think. :)
... Hopefully I'll manage to return to Panzer Dragoon Orta regularly enough to finish it in a decent timeframe, though, it is the best game on the Xbox and just exceptional all-around. I have a lot of games I feel like I should be playing, but that is near the top of the list.
Final Fantasy V Advance.
It's the first game I've played, of any kind, in close to six months. I just don't really care about games very much these days.
Waltell Wrote:Final Fantasy V Advance.
It's the first game I've played, of any kind, in close to six months. I just don't really care about games very much these days.
I just played through that one less than a month or so ago.
As for me, I'm still more of a PC gamer than any console. The community I spend most of my time at now has heavy focus on Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead, so I spend a fair amount of time in those games, I did, however, buy a 360 a few months back and have been fooling around on that (and will be doing so more in a couple weeks when FF XIII lands).
Also, after years of steadfast refusal to acknowledge the series, it took the power of the opposite sex to get me to try a Pokemon game. My girlfriend got me playing it and now I'm freaking hooked. I'm not proud :D
That's about it from me.
I have a confession to make that I didn't mention. I still play Doom on a regular basis. And I don't mean Doom III.
I do, too. Once first-person shooters became truly 3D, they lost me forever.
>Also, after years of steadfast refusal to acknowledge the series, it took the power of the opposite sex to get me to try a Pokemon game. My girlfriend got me playing it and now I'm freaking hooked. I'm not proud
Ironically, I was playing Pokèmon: Special Pikachu Edition during the ONSP/Gaystation war. I felt the prerequisite guilt, obviously, but christ, it wwas rather fun.
I've never played another one, though. I feel pretty secure in the assumption that playing only one game in the series gives you enough of the experience.
I'm not afraid to admit it. Not only did I play Pokémon back in the ONSP/Gaystation days, but I still occasionally play it. I own Fire Red on GBA and Diamond on DS and my girlfriend is going to get me Heart Gold for the DS when it comes out. She owns all the opposite versions: Leaf Green, Pearl (as well as Platinum), and Soul Silver when it comes out. It is pretty addictive, but you are right that one version is plenty to give you the full experience. There are new features in the later games that are pretty cool, but the overall concept is still the same.
My brother recently got a 360 and I was tempted to buy Batman: Arkham Asylum while at Walmart today as I've heard great things about it, but it was $60, so I decided I'd pass for now.
I kind of have the same problem as you, ABF, only instead of new games, I'm in a nostalgic swing and I've been playing old games sporadically without much focus on any single game. I finally settled on A Link to the Past for now, and by the time I finish it, I may not be in the mood to play old games anymore. I also started up Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country recently and I also downloaded Metroid and Kirby's Dream Land 3 on the Virtual Console (I've already completed the latter since it's pretty short).
We all were hooked on Dopemon/Pokemon back in the day , I owned Red as well and played it on the SNES converter so I could play it in color, I bought the gameboy link so I could get all three of the starter pokemon for myself and my friend.
The gaming war was pretty retarded looking back on it , Who cares which system is best just buy all of them.
What's funny is that I didn't hate the other systems at first. Nintendo's systems were my favorites, though I had played very little of Playstation to judge it, and I still liked the Sega Genesis just fine. However, once I got involved in the online world, it was taboo to mention a rival system on any site. For example, if I ever brought up Nintendo in a Sonic the Hedgehog chat room, people would go ballistic and I thought it was stupid (I still do). The reverse was also true; I could not talk about Sega in the World of Nintendo chat room without people blowing a gasket.
I don't know why, but at some point, I got caught up in the system wars and, out of sheer bias and ignorance of the competition, aligned myself with Nintendo and against Sony and, to a lesser extent because I believed them to be a non-existent threat, Sega. I eventually grew out of it and am now willing to give any system a try. I'm still a Nintendo fanboy primarily and I don't need people like Shia Ladouche telling me that I'm not a real gamer for it (though I honestly don't give a shit what they think). Still, there are quite a few non-Nintendo games that I love, in particular the Final Fantasy games for the original Playstation. I also like the 2D Sonic games for the Genesis. I'm willing to try anything on my brother's 360 that looks good and I wouldn't mind owning a PS3 someday.
Oh, system wars haven't gone away, PS3/360/Wii wars are heated across the internet... :)
And it's not just kids either, it's very much all gamers. PS3/360 fans desperately have wanted the Wii to fail for years because of how it's weaker and not HD, but when they're not bashing the Wii together, they're attacking eachother the rest of the time.
It makes sense to me, when you've invested that much time and money in something of course you're going to want it to be successful...
I am now 2000 player in Wii Sports Resort Table Tennis.
Thought you all should know.
Honestly, our own little console war only partially involved videogames. Especially later on. By the time we all gave up on it, we all spent ten times as long arguing over which side had the better website, larger membership, etc., and we had been helping each other as much as we argued with each other.
Looking back on it from the safe distance of almost a decade, we actually created a self-contained political system. What we really had were console parties. The parallels are as striking as they are depressing. :D
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I haven't seen American Dad in forever.
Our own political system? It is kind of depressing, actually, knowing that real politicians are hardly any more mature. Just replace attacks on each other's sexuality with generic terms such as "fascist," "socialist," "nazi," "communist," "marxist," "terrorist," "redcoat," etc. Better yet, combine all these terms together, even if they contradict one another, and add in the attack on the person's sexuality and you've got your average middle American protester.
I of course want the Wii to be successful since I have, as ABF said, invested money into it, so naturally I want there to be more games and I want there to be other players available whenever I go online with Mario Kart Wii or Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but I certainly don't want the competition to fail. I have nothing against the competition as I've barely given them a chance and probably would if I had more time and money. Competition is good though; it prompts companies to improve their quality... even if Nintendo is usually a generation behind technologically speaking. They nevertheless have a comfortable market niche with their loyal fans who yearn for the familiarity of series such as Super Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, etc.
From what I've seen, on NeoGAF for instance, more of the hate seems to be coming from PS360 fans towards the Wii than the other way around... a lot of them are really bitter that the non-HD console is winning. :)
You know, non-HD graphics just look so awful, how can you even look at such things...
Geno Wrote:I haven't seen American Dad in forever.
That's the kind of forever I can get behind.
As for upcoming, I've got FF XIII preordered because I'm a Squeenix whore now (what a fall from grace), as well as the SoulSilver preorder that was purchased for me. Me and you will have to touch base when it comes out, Geno. Are you on Steam, by chance? That's the easiest way to reach me now by far.
A Black Falcon Wrote:From what I've seen, on NeoGAF for instance, more of the hate seems to be coming from PS360 fans towards the Wii than the other way around... a lot of them are really bitter that the non-HD console is winning. :)
You know, non-HD graphics just look so awful, how can you even look at such things...
Non-HD
does look pretty awful. I guess the Wii makes up for it with the physical experience, but it's still a bad shortcoming no matter how you skew it.
DS
Chrono Trigger
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Advance Wars DS
GBA
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Wii
Excitebots: Trick Racing (online)
Battalion Wars Wii
Guitar Hero III
Castlevania (multiple)
Sonic (multiple)
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (unlocking endings and part of the community to piece the story's constructs together)
Gamecube
Donkey Konga
P.N. 03 (butterfly suit speedruns)
Timesplitters (multiple, deathmatch)
Battalion Wars (zero casualty speed runs)
N64
Perfect Dark (deathmatch, speed runs)
Pokemon Snap
Diddy Kong Racing
Bomberman
Online
Multiple RTS homebrew
Metroid II: Return of Samus remake
Lolo (multiple new versions)
The message board I was on to make Link's Awakening 3-D was shut down, presumably by Nintendo. D;
Too many games to mention
Looking forward to
Perfect Dark XBLA
Metroid: Other M
Multiple RPG's including Blue Dragon and Plus.
Mario Galaxy 2
Bayonetta (sp?)
Dragon Age
Many others
You guys are amateurs. Hand in your badges.
EdenMaster Wrote:That's the kind of forever I can get behind.
As for upcoming, I've got FF XIII preordered because I'm a Squeenix whore now (what a fall from grace), as well as the SoulSilver preorder that was purchased for me. Me and you will have to touch base when it comes out, Geno. Are you on Steam, by chance? That's the easiest way to reach me now by far.
I've never heard of Steam. Is it an instant messenger? You know, I think I still have you on my MSN buddy list even though you haven't logged on in ages (though I no longer use that account; let's just say I got to know too many stupid people).
We'll also be able to talk to each other over the DS mic whenever we play Pokémon on WiFi. At least that's how Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum work, and I would imagine HeartGold and SoulSilver will be the same.
I'm thinking about getting FFXIII even though I barely touched FFXII. I'd like to go back and give it another shot. I've mostly just been replaying older Final Fantasy games. Something about the newer ones doesn't click with me, but to be fair, I'm not really giving them a fair chance. The only new Final Fantasy game I've played through from start to finish was Final Fantasy IV: The After Years on WiiWare if that even counts (when you order all the chapters, it's about the same length as any other Final Fantasy game).
Well I can certainly tell you're not a PC gamer, but man, I thought everyone knew what Steam was.
It's a digital download/online matchmaking/instant message program that really encompasses everything you would want or need. It is very much the model of how PC gaming should be.
Some people have some grudge against it, but those people are just wrong :P
As for MSN, no, I haven't used it in ages. I could, though, if need be.
Quote:I've never heard of Steam. Is it an instant messenger? You know, I think I still have you on my MSN buddy list even though you haven't logged on in ages (though I no longer use that account; let's just say I got to know too many stupid people).
Steam is a software program , That many PC games now require to play like empire total war , It allows you to play games without having to insert the game discs in the machine, You can also download hole games off steam and buy additional content.
The only down side is that you need the internet to use it
Quote:It is very much the model of how PC gaming should be.
No, it's very much not. It's better than nothing, but very far from ideal.
Games are not better with no paper manuals, etc!
It's been more than ten years since I purchased a game which had a manual of any value. This is a development that I found in no way tragic.
Not just PC gaming, I think this is the model of how software distribution of all kinds should be, now that broadband internet access is ubiquitous and practically all media can be made portable in some fashion.
Of course, there is still a market for strategy guides, most of which cost a third as much as the game itself and are less complete and informative than free guides you can find on GameFAQs. As products, they are inferior in almost every way.
Please, nobody uses paper manuals anymore! All you need is Google! What did instruction manuals ever bring to a game other than the basic storyline and controls, which are usually provided at the beginning of most games these days anyway? As for strategy guides... yeah, GameFAQs, what EdenMaster said. Hell, if you're a more visual learner, you can also find walkthroughs on YouTube nowadays. :)
It would be hard to disagree with a statement more than me with that... manuals are often very useful. They're an easy way to learn about a game. It's usually easier to look things up in the manual than try to find something in the ingame help, presuming that it's a game with that. Yes, of course in the last decade or so manuals became less important than they used to be, because of more ingame help, the rise of the overdone tutorial and pop-up tips, etc, etc. That doesn't mean that manuals are useless though! I still always look at the manual first, as long as I have it...
Also, older manuals, particularly for PC games, used to be fantastic. I have so many great manuals that have so much in them... the decline of the manual has definitely been sad. Still, again, they definitely still have value, as long as the people putting them together want them to. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but it's always better when they do.
As for strategy guides, I don't buy those usually, yeah, but I will say that the one advantage of paper ones, besides not requiring you to print off huge amounts of paper if there's something you want in print (so you don't have to memorize things, or switch back and forth between the game and your computer, or whatever), is that they have many more images and maps, which for some games can be quite helpful... I don't buy them either, sure, but there are definitely some cases where a printed guide would be nice... and I don't want to print off a 500 page GameFAQs document or something!
Also, it's more than just manuals... owning the physical game gets you an actual disc or cart or whatever, which I like, the box, which is great, and in some cases perhaps extras, like maps, etc. They come with actual physical things. As a result, they're more valuable than digital copies, really. I only buy games on Steam if they're very deeply discounted; I've never spent over like $5 or $8 for a Steam game, and I don't intend to. I don't like Steam very much, for one thing, it's far too controlled a system... but even beyond that, if I had the choice (and the extra money) I'd absolutely rather pay a little more to get a boxed copy of the game.
Of course these days I don't exactly buy many new games, but still, the sentiment is still valid I think. For instance, yeah, I'll pay a little more for a complete copy of a game than I would for a cart-only one. Sometimes I'll just get the cart-only copy, because the game itself is the most important part and it saves money, but getting the boxes and manuals can is definitely worth it sometimes.
When I buy a new game, I usually flip through the manual just for fun, which lasts about 30 seconds, before diving into the game. Manuals have pretty pictures. :)
I can kind of see your point, ABF, a little. I like having games in cases too...console games. I enjoy having my console library and being able to peruse it. The PC is not the same way. For one thing, you place a game in a console and you start playing. More often than not, you install a PC game and you never need the disc again till you need to reinstall it. Maybe you have some immaculate filing system for your PC games, but I don't have the room.
I recently upgraded my OS from Windows XP to 7. My Steam account houses over 100 games. The fact that I had to search for not one single disc to reinstall the lions share of my game collection made me a very happy man.
I'm also curious about your claim of "too controlled". You buy a game. You download the game. You play the game. You can now download and play said game on any computer with Steam on it, the program itself being quick and easy and resource friendly (my current internet browser is placing more of a strain on my system right now, so says Task Manager). Hell I downloaded and installed Steam on my grandmothers hamster-wheel driven computer just to chat with people and it worked fine.
Is it because you need to be connected to Steam at times? Ok, seriously, is there a gamer worth his salt in 2010 that doesn't have broadband or relatively constant or easy access to the internet? Come on. And you don't always need to be connected. Play in offline mode and you can play any single player game you want.
I'll admit to owning a few strategy guides for games I especially enjoy. You know what I use paper manuals for? Reading material when I'm on the crapper a week after I buy a game. Games nowadays explain most everything to you in the first hour of play and/or as you go. Manuals are superfluous in this day and age.
See my recent post in the PSX to responses on a lot of those issues...
As far as "controlled" though, I mean things like these:
-You cannot set install path. Everything must go to the Steam folder. There are ways of getting around this with Windows addons (thanks, NeoGAF guy who told me that!), and that's important, because I like partititions, and there's no way I can accept the entire Steam folder on one partition. I want to install the demos to my demo folders, the full games to my various drives, etc. I want to install things to where I want them. I also want separate program groups in the Program Files thing for each game, so they're easy to find, instead of everything being dumped in the Steam folder. I don't want to do thing Valve's way, I want to do things the way I do them! This should not be an unreasonable request, either, because Steam is the ONLY major PC DD service which is so controlled and restricted.
That is, I want it to be like buying game, just without the disc (because I got it for really cheap and on sale, thus justifying the loss of those things). As in, the way you get games from Direct2Drive or, even better, GOG (Good Old Games). With those services you get an installer, and, with GOG, scanned versions of the manuals, other paperwork, etc. It's a world of difference, and a vast, vast improvement over Steam.
As for Steam's community features, I don't care. I don't leave Steam on all day, I don't have any friends listed in Steam, etc. Those things mean nothing to me.
Quote:More often than not, you install a PC game and you never need the disc again till you need to reinstall it. Maybe you have some immaculate filing system for your PC games, but I don't have the room.
I wish PC games still did have install size options, because the amounts of HDD space required by some modern games is just insane... can't they at least have an option to keep the movies on the disc or something, like games used to do? Sure, I have 1.1TBs of HDD space, but still I don't want to have to use 30GBs of it for one single game! That's ridiculous, if I got it on physical media...
Also lots of PC games do have disc check so you need to put the disc in anyway to play the game...
Quote:I'll admit to owning a few strategy guides for games I especially enjoy. You know what I use paper manuals for? Reading material when I'm on the crapper a week after I buy a game. Games nowadays explain most everything to you in the first hour of play and/or as you go. Manuals are superfluous in this day and age.
So you like the fact that games now are often "moron-proofed" by making the first hour or hours of the game a stupidly easy and annoying waste of time? Sorry, I don't really like required tutorials overall... they're not always bad, but if I had to choose, make the tutorial optional. Of course old PC games often just left the tutorial in the manual and had nothing in the game that told you how to play, but things aren't done like that anymore... and that's probably good, but things have gone too far in the other direction, for the most part.
You're right that there are some good reasons why manuals are less important, such as tooltips, etc, but there are other not-so-good ones... and as I've said there are still reasons why paper manuals or guides ARE good, plenty of them. People have gotten used to not having good manuals, I know, but does that really mean that we're better off without them? I think not.
I'm fine with in-game tutorials as long as they're optional, as you said. Some games even have a "Tutorial" option on the main menu separate from actual gameplay. When you're replaying a game, it's especially annoying having to be forced to sit through a boring ass tutorial. (I'm looking at you, Final Fantasy VIII!) I guess the good thing about sitting through a tutorial again is that you might pick up on something you missed the first time or forgot about, but that's a rarity.
A Black Falcon Wrote:See my recent post in the PSX to responses on a lot of those issues...
As far as "controlled" though, I mean things like these:
-You cannot set install path. Everything must go to the Steam folder. There are ways of getting around this with Windows addons (thanks, NeoGAF guy who told me that!), and that's important, because I like partititions, and there's no way I can accept the entire Steam folder on one partition. I want to install the demos to my demo folders, the full games to my various drives, etc. I want to install things to where I want them. I also want separate program groups in the Program Files thing for each game, so they're easy to find, instead of everything being dumped in the Steam folder. I don't want to do thing Valve's way, I want to do things the way I do them! This should not be an unreasonable request, either, because Steam is the ONLY major PC DD service which is so controlled and restricted.
That is, I want it to be like buying game, just without the disc (because I got it for really cheap and on sale, thus justifying the loss of those things). As in, the way you get games from Direct2Drive or, even better, GOG (Good Old Games). With those services you get an installer, and, with GOG, scanned versions of the manuals, other paperwork, etc. It's a world of difference, and a vast, vast improvement over Steam.
As for Steam's community features, I don't care. I don't leave Steam on all day, I don't have any friends listed in Steam, etc. Those things mean nothing to me.
I wish PC games still did have install size options, because the amounts of HDD space required by some modern games is just insane... can't they at least have an option to keep the movies on the disc or something, like games used to do? Sure, I have 1.1TBs of HDD space, but still I don't want to have to use 30GBs of it for one single game! That's ridiculous, if I got it on physical media...
Also lots of PC games do have disc check so you need to put the disc in anyway to play the game...
So you like the fact that games now are often "moron-proofed" by making the first hour or hours of the game a stupidly easy and annoying waste of time? Sorry, I don't really like required tutorials overall... they're not always bad, but if I had to choose, make the tutorial optional. Of course old PC games often just left the tutorial in the manual and had nothing in the game that told you how to play, but things aren't done like that anymore... and that's probably good, but things have gone too far in the other direction, for the most part.
You're right that there are some good reasons why manuals are less important, such as tooltips, etc, but there are other not-so-good ones... and as I've said there are still reasons why paper manuals or guides ARE good, plenty of them. People have gotten used to not having good manuals, I know, but does that really mean that we're better off without them? I think not.
You're so weird. Games are plenty easy to find. Instead of being in Program Files, you open Steam and they're there, arranged nicely. You don't want everything on one drive, you like partitions, blah blah blah. You're just nitpicking and don't like having to do things differently.
And as for your last question, yes. Yes we are. They're obsolete and are more used for seizure warnings and "This is the X button. X." diagrams.
I've been indulged in Final Fantasy XIII for the past few days. I know the game has been getting hammered, but I very much enjoy it.
Lots of old DOS games at the moment, but I might get Just Cause 2 when it comes out in a few days.
Unreadphilosophy Wrote:I've been indulged in Final Fantasy XIII for the past few days. I know the game has been getting hammered, but I very much enjoy it.
As do I, I'm enjoying it very much.
The people who are complaining are basically saying "Why can't it be more like Final Fantasy 7?" A wonderful game in it's own right, but I don't think it deserves the fanatical following it has earned.
FFVII... are they still talking about that? My god it's been more than a decade, are they still on about it? I never played it, what was so divine about it that nothing produced since can hold a candle to it?
Xenogears came out a year later and was better in every way.
So, I don't know.
Darunia Wrote:FFVII... are they still talking about that? My god it's been more than a decade, are they still on about it? I never played it, what was so divine about it that nothing produced since can hold a candle to it?
For a lot of people it was the first RPG they ever played.
I would love to go back and play all those first-generation PSX games I missed, foremost of which would be FFVII... what's the cheapest and most direct way to go about doing so?
Don't psone games work on the ps3? You could get a used copy of FFVII.
There is always the hope of a sequel or a revamped remake.
PS3 does play PS1 games, yes. FF7 is none too cheap these days though.
There's a rumor that FF7 and FF8 are going to be available on Steam soon, so if you've got a computer you might want to wait and see if that happens.
Apparently FFVII is available on PlayStation Network, whatever that is.
Weltall Wrote:Xenogears came out a year later and was better in every way.
So, I don't know.
And of course there's Chrono Cross, which surpasses even Xenogears in every facet. So yeah, I don't really know why FFVII is considered by many to be the best PS1 RPG either.
If they came out on Steam I'd be elated. You have to pay for that, right?
Darunia Wrote:If they came out on Steam I'd be elated. You have to pay for that, right?
I'd doubt that, but then again, Square Enix has other stuff on Steam.
Fittisize Wrote:And of course there's Chrono Cross, which surpasses even Xenogears in every facet. So yeah, I don't really know why FFVII is considered by many to be the best PS1 RPG either.
I guess in some weird, alternate dimension, this could be true.
I couldn't stand
Chrono Cross, myself. Found it to be a completely unworthy sequel. It is
Chrono Trigger's Xenosaga.
EdenMaster Wrote:I'd doubt that, but then again, Square Enix has other stuff on Steam.
They do, and FF7 and FF8 already have PC versions.