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On the terrorism trial issue. Awesome stuff as usual... :D
I just can't help but wonder why these people are worried about them being found not guilty. If there's no evidence they did anything and the end up getting acquitted, well then why are you so concerned? Oh no! Innocent people running free! If there is evidence they did it, there's really not a chance in hell the courts would let them off.

Really the only thing I'm worried about is how the hell are they going to get a jury for this? Finding people who haven't heard of the terrorist attacks is probably right out. What, are we going to have a jury of amish people? Further, assuming we DID manage to find a group who never heard of it, are THESE the people we want being a jury? I can only imagine the drooling mouth breathing morons such a jury would consist of.

"So clearly you've all heard of this case. Fine, how many of you are biased?"

"Oh I'm not biased." *reload sound*
They need people that they think can be unbiased about it, I think, not people who have never heard of it... because yeah, obviously they're never going to find the latter. But people who can put biases aside and just consider the facts of the case as it is presented... they should be able to find that, I think.

As for the worry about them being released, yeah, if you have the evidence, as you should to hold people, that shouldn't be a problem. But also I think that I heard that they have more things they could charge them with too, so it's not like if they get of here through some miracle they're going free.
The right wing is about fear over facts. Let's trust that the courts will have the tiniest fragment of common sense and reasoning necessary to declare the terrorists guilty. Granted, the trial is just for show and everyone knows they're guilty, but the law is the law and even mass murderers are entitled to a fair trial, even if they have no chance in hell of getting acquitted, such as in this case.

And as DJ said, even in the off chance that evidence is found that they're not guilty and they end up going free, isn't that a good thing? Isn't that the point of having fair trials? You know, so that innocent people aren't punished for crimes they didn't commit?
The secondary fear being tossed around is that these guys, if put in prison (instead of, what, summary execution?) will just recruit new members in jail and/or communicate secretly to coordinate attacks from in prison.

The people panicking about this have seen one too many episodes of law and order. This sort of thing just isn't reality. Besides, for those criminals deemed capable of this kind of communication, such as a mob boss, there IS a solution already in place. Permanent solitary confinement in a special prison just for such threats. Bam, problem solved.

Other than that, there's these weird "worries" that the judges of the case "need to think about their families", the idea being that if they DARE judge them, the people they care about might be in danger! Oh no!

So wait, first they say we should definitely detain them without their rights, then the moment we do this via trial, they lose all sense of courage and claim standing up for justice is irresponsible because you aren't showing proper care about your families being put in danger?

This is the sort of idiotic thing I hear now and then from some family members. They apparently occasionally overhear or are directly told by someone that they are a murder (and in one case, a murder for hire service) and they decide to just "let it go" out of fear of retribution, again having apparently watched too many movies and totally unaware that police can arrest someone without ever letting on just where they got their information.