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Quote:TLC will air a documentary called Gameheadz about the people and systems that most formed what we know as the videogame industry today. It chronicles the visionaries, inventors, and the story of computer games. The premier will be on Wednesday April 16th at 10 PM EST/PST. Atari's founder Nolan Bushnell and Pong's creator Al Alcorn tell their story, and Activision's founder explains the industry collapse in 1983. Ralph Baer explains the Odyssey system and what really began videogaming.

After the downfall of Atari, Nintendo came in and built the industry back up again. Shigeru Miyamoto gets the nod for being the main contibutor behind the resurgance of videogames and famous franchise characters. Miyamoto tells an intriguing story of how he was asked to design his first game - Donkey Kong and talks about his childhood spent exploring the Japanese countryside and how it inspired his magical thinking.

Miyamoto will also perform the theme tune to Super Mario Bros. on his guitar. He then reveals how he came up with the formula of Zelda, which game critics at the time said was doomed for failure. Nintendo's dominance in the game industry was assured by Nintendo's picking up of the world rights for Tetris. Henk Rogers tells how he went to Communist Russia and befriended the games creator Alexey Pajitnov. Lastly, Pajitnov speaks on how he came up with the idea of Tetris.

I am definitely watching this.

Nintendophiles
Methinks I shall too...it'd be worth it just to see our Shiggy strumming a guitar!:D
I wonder if it'll sound like that zora practicing in Majora's Mask...

I have to say I'd like to see this too. It would be nice to see the LEARNING channel get back to actual education. Discovery needs to get back to educational stuff too. Sheesh, they managed to make 50billion spinoff channels simply from the popularity they had when they DID just have the educational stuff, then they have to spoil it all by doing something stupid like frickin' REALITY SHOWS! I HATE that Jesse Ventura build shop, AND all those TLC things. It was fine when they had ONE of those shows, Junkyard Wars, but I knew something was up when they made Robotica. It then flew out of control from there. Junkyard Wars at least let you in on all the science behind the projects and almost never had that idiotic "Human element" these reality shows are known for, but all these new shows, like the Jesse thing, have nothing but gossipy "can you believe he said that?" stuff going on.

I just hope this show isn't like Animal Planet's "The most EXTREME" show, which often is completely inaccurate on top of putting the WORST animals in the top spot. Some insect or arachnid or bug of some kind always seems to end up winning those things, when it's OBVIOUS that the animal that should win a most extreme builder award isn't a frickin' termite, no matter how large the building is "to scale", it's humans! Well, I gave up on Animal Planet a long time ago anyway (about the only people on that channel who seems to know anything about animals are the nature show hosts now), and REALLY got upset when the pet psychic show started. Oh, and the day I happened to catch a glimpse of an episode of the pet psychic with special guest Jon Edwards.... ugh....
Oooh, I better record this! When is it supposed to air?
It's definately going to be interesting, though it's not going to have anywhere near the amount of information that you can find in History of Videogames articles on the net.

I take it it's referring soley to Videogames, and not computer games, yes?

Still, it'll be good to see. And Miyamoto playing his guitar will be worth it alone. ;)
I can't wait!
It airs on TLC on Wednesday, April 16th at 10 p.m. Eastern.
Wow, that's soon.
I think it refers to ALL electronic games. Computer game and video game are terms that can pretty much be used interchangebly. Yes OB1, I remember you posting different definitions from some site before, but then I went and read the REST of the definitions, and both of them have the SAME definition under one of the definition headings, thus they are interchangeble terms. I remember the last history of video games show I saw on the history channel covered everything from arcade to console to computer to portable, so I don't see why this one wouldn't. Guys at Discovery wouldn't have such stupid and idiotic biases as we do regarding the frickin' SYSTEM the games are on as to exclude whole systems for whatever reason.
Hmm, looks interesting. I may have to watch it. For no other reason than to hear Shiggy playing the Mario theme on a guitar.

*looks at calendar*

Damn and it's tomorrow even. If TLC really wanted to give viewers the real Nintendo experience, they should have scheduled it for next month, and then delayed it until September.
Quote:Originally posted by Dark Jaguar
I think it refers to ALL electronic games. Computer game and video game are terms that can pretty much be used interchangebly. Yes OB1, I remember you posting different definitions from some site before, but then I went and read the REST of the definitions, and both of them have the SAME definition under one of the definition headings, thus they are interchangeble terms. I remember the last history of video games show I saw on the history channel covered everything from arcade to console to computer to portable, so I don't see why this one wouldn't. Guys at Discovery wouldn't have such stupid and idiotic biases as we do regarding the frickin' SYSTEM the games are on as to exclude whole systems for whatever reason.


I'm sorry but there are differences between the terms computer games and video games. All video games are computer games but not all computer games are video games. I'm not going to go over this again.
Don't, because you're wrong.
Actually I'm right. Computer games are any games played on a computer, while video games are games where you have to manipulate the visuals on the screen.
All games are computer games. They are also video games because you are looking at the screen and it has something on it... text or pictures really is irrelevant...
It is totally relevent. When did the first text-based computer game come out? If it had come out before Space War or Tennis for Two, would it have been proclaimed as the first video game? No. The first video games were games that allowed you to manipulate images on a computer or tv screen. You do not manipulate images in text-based computer games. They are still computer games, but technically not video games.
Then what do you call the few ones where you only manipulate text but there's a picture (most games with graphics have some graphic manipulation (like moving your character, while inputing commands in text), but not all...)?
If you are actually manipulating some images on screen then it is a video game.
video game
n.
An electronic or computerized game played by manipulating images on a video display or television screen.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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video game

n : a game played against a computer [syn: computer game]


TWO definitions OB1! One is the one you are flaunting, which is correct, the second is JUST as correct! Why can't you understand that words have multiple definitions? Sure, the word "video" is in the term, but terms change, and often beyond the sum of their parts.

entry found for computer game.
computer game

n : a game played against a computer [syn: video game]


As you can see, JUST as I said, the second definition of video game is EXACTLY the same as the only definition for computer game. We win. Argument over. ABF, I suggest that you no longer respond to anything he has to say from this point on, I know I won't.
Uh, so games can have pictures and not be video games? That doesn't exactly make sense...
A video game is not a video game unless you manipulate images on a screen. It's as simple as that. You can think otherwise and consider those "choose your own adventure" e-books to be video games but you'd be wrong. Video games are defined by the games that started it all, games where you controlled images on a screen, be that Tic Tac Toe, Space War, or Tennis for Two. It is not a video game if you do not have any control over the images on the screen! It's as simple as that! The second defintion obviously only covers one aspect of video games because you can play against a human opponent in a video game.

And ABF, I said that if you have some sort of control over the image in a text-based game then it is a video game. But if it has text and text only then it is not technically a video game. You still haven't answered by question regarding when the first text-based computer game came out.
I don't know when Adventure (Colossal Cave) came out... but I don't think it was before the first video games...

Oh, and was there any control over the image in Mystery House? I don't know...

Edit: Colossal Cave Adventure was made in 1972... it wasn't the first textbased game ever, though, just the first interative fiction game.

http://www.rickadams.org/adventure/index.html

http://www.rickadams.org/
I don't have a TV, so I'm trying to get my 'rents to tape it for me so I can watch it when I come home this weekend.
Ah, back on topic I see.
I don't have a TV that gets that channel here or at home... oh well...
I could record it for you and send you the tape... if you pay for shipping.
Seems Miyamoto was the first to ask "Why can't games tell stories?". Next time you get upset about games being too story driven, now you know who to blame, ironically enough.
I KNEW it! You see? Half the GBs sold have been to adults! I KNEW I wasn't just imagining all the adults and old people carting around GBs!

It's a shame they only went from arcade to the introduction of the GB and the Tetris stuff, and they barely even scratched the history of PC games (they mentioned like 2 of them). I think they should have mentioned Mystery House at some point.

Oh well, I learned a few new things, and laughed at the host of commercials from both Japan and the US from the 80's.
I went to the Nuggets game but recorded Gameheadz (hey look they replaced the "s" with a "z" to make it all hip and cool and they combined the two words into one! I feel so cool now!) so I'll watch it in a bit.
I was a bit disappointed with the show. It was interesting and I enjoyed it, but I was expecting a full documentary from the beginning to current gaming industries. The show left off right after the original Game Boy launched. Also, Shiggy was never shown just playing the Mario song, they just showed him while the narrator talked and you could barely hear it. Still a good show though.
I liked it. I really feel sorry for poor old Ralph Baer, though. Never got the recognition that he deserved.
It was interesting. Nice to see some of those backdrops where Shiggy grew up.
It kind of ended abruptly; I thought it might go on for another hour, and bring the industry up to date. Seems to have put a lot of emphasis on Tetris, and ended with the rise of the Game Boy.
It was funny though when Shig said how the large lake he found on top of a mountain was to be seen in all Legend of Zelda games. So that's where Lake Hylia was born.
The press release seems to indicate that this will be sort of a series.