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Pretext: No I'm not personally affected. However, eternal vigilance and loud shouting is the only way anything ever gets changed. Enough people over react and make a big stink about this, Valve will listen. With that, onto my complaining. It is not just acceptable, but NECESSARY.

Now this is idiotic. I can understand Valve wanting, for some odd reason that I never understood but is industry standard, to control where their games are released and how easily people in certain territories can buy them. In this case though, it's TOO LATE. They already OWN the game. That said and done, you can't just shut them out. You want to sell this as a viable alternative to buying a non-steam activated game? Better play ball and let people, no matter where they bought it or what IP range they are using it in, have full access to the thing. No turning off games people paid for. You know what this does to your bottom line? Boycotts (and they are already starting, in the small numbers that always happen with these things), refunds, and of course, with that odd glitch, people won't buy the legit copies. On top of all that though, you get people who suddenly have to turn to the piracy world just to get their legitimate games running. It's Bioshock all over again.

Look, I know you have some odd controls you want, but you have to understand that no matter how cleverly you word your "contracts", that's not what people actually think is going on. By and large, the public thinks they own a game, and let me tell you, in my opinion, that's ENOUGH right there. They pretty much DO own it. You can't just do all sorts of unethical nonsense and hide behind "but they pushed a button". Yeah, a button they didn't even know they had to push until they opened the box and installed the game. "Hidden" software contracts will get their day in court of being held invalid. There's a precedent, and that's the old days of "by opening this box you give your agreement" contracts of older PC games. There's a reason they stopped using those.

This nonsense seriously has to stop, and here's the first step. Turn those games back on! For all intents and purposes, you know you owe them and it's their game.
Wow... that's horrible. Not letting someone play a game just because it's "for a different region"? There are REGIONS in PC games now? What the heck? Absolutely agreed, this needs to stop... Ridiculous.
It's like they tell us we can have cake or death, and now their choice is "Or Death".
Steam is a great service, but it definitely has some significant flaws... that you have to activate games online first that you bought in the store before you can play them offline is stupid, the fact that you can't select folders to install games to so you'd better have put Steam on a drive with a LOT of free harddrive space if you plan on downloading stuff (you can move it all I think but you can't break up the Steam folder...), this...
Well after the whole "had to be online just to play it" thing going on, I"ll forgive something as small as needing to pop online one time to activate it. I can do that mess all of times.

As for splitting Steam games across hard disks... hmm that's an iffy one. Is that actually the case? I will say I have a 200 GB hard disk so that issue hasn't come up just yet. When I hit the point where I need to install things to my secondary 80 GB hard disk, well likely I'll just move the entire Steam folder right on over. Yeah, I can see that being annoying at times. Hmm... Here's a work around. Steam could be designed so that games just install to their normal folders but part of the install process also puts files in the Steam folder indicating where the games are installed.
I have 600GB of HDD space, in two 300GB drives, but I broke it up into four 140-160GB partitions, and I download and install a lot of stuff, so I'm now at 202GB free... 37GB on C, 18GB on D, 21GB on E, and 126GB on F. I'll fill it up sooner or later... Steam is on C, so it's got plenty of room to grow (I mostly don't put stuff on C beyond what's already there), but even so it's a sign of horrible design. I was shocked when I found that I couldn't set folders for Steam to install stuff to...
Just out of curiosity, why did you break up your drives into multiple partitions? For most users something like that isn't really needed.
I like it better that way... I feel like it makes it easier to organize my harddrive when I have separate partitions. I'd never do the system that puts multiple drives onto one single partition (ie one 600GB partition that merges both drives) because with the way those work if one drive dies you lose EVERYTHING, so I'd need at least two partitions anyway, and I made it four... I don't think I've had a computer with only one HDD partition as my main computer since, like, 1993 or something... whenever it was that we doublespaced our 386. :)

While there is plenty of overlap between drives (they all have installed games and demos on them), I do like to keep all of one thing in one drive -- so the game media folder is on one drive (game screenshots, videos, etc), anime stuff is on another, stuff like normal applications and files and stuff on drive C, the game download stuff folder (demos/patches/etc) on another drive, etc... I don't think I'd want everything on one partition. Too messy with everything all mixed together like that... having several partitions lets you separate it out.
Quote:Hmm... Here's a work around. Steam could be designed so that games just install to their normal folders but part of the install process also puts files in the Steam folder indicating where the games are installed.

That was my point: I was very surprised that Steam had no such obviously necessary option.
Well I just didn't think it was all that obvious or necessary, for MOST people. I do agree that it could be resolved with an update though.
Well, it was something I noticed almost immediately after I started to use Steam with any regularity and looked through the options screens.