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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152081

Okay, it seems the way this tech would work if Sony actually tried to DO it is also a bad idea.

You know how you take your brand new game over to your friend's house, possibly minutes after you bought it, so everyone can look at the new game? You know how you may not have thought to bring your ENTIRE GAME CONSOLE with you and intend on playing it on their machine? You know how there's a reason for memory card holders in game cases, and that reason is ease in bringing your game to a friend's house? You know how MULTIPLAYER GAMES are awesome but aren't always played at the same location every single time?

If none of that applies to you, then you won't have to worry about the system locking being an issue.

Does Sony intend on making sure ALL their games are ALWAYS easily available for purchase at all times? Will they never be sold out, always available brand new? If that's the case, then people like me who try to obtain games "mint condition" even if the used game is completely void of any apparent defects, won't be affected.

Does Sony have a problem with free market enterprise? It seems they do. I can understand that a developer might actually be upset that as a result of selling used games, people aren't buying new games, and that results in a profit cut. However, I have to point something out. First of all, and this should be obvious, they will still sell PLENTY of new games for some very simple reasons. People need to get ahold of these games to begin with, and also, they aren't buying one copy and selling two copies of it, they are physically forced to buy one copy, sell one copy, so if they ever want to play it again, they need to either buy a used copy or a new copy themselves. Conservation of matter/energy alone is all they really need to promise plenty of game sales so long as people actually want the game in question. If the game is very good, very few people are going to bother selling it.

Now here's another point, we are in a FREE MARKET. There are consequences of that, but "hurting the big business peoples" isn't one most people are that concerned with. Once I have BOUGHT that game of yours, I OWN it, I can do whatever I want with it, including selling it and not giving the company that made it a dime. We already made our deal, I no longer have anything to do with you.

That said, this isn't the first time companies have done things like this. It's just that every time previous people have not liked it, seen the downsides, and eventually this limitation just completely failed and no longer sold.

Sony better not do this.
If Sony does this I will NEVER buy a PS3.
After thinking about it, I realized that's probably true for me as well.

Consider: My desire to buy one is capped by the price of the thing not being equal to the value I place in the few games I'm currently interested in. As such, I would likely only buy it if the price dropped. Due to the sheer expense of the device, that is likely to not happen for a few years at least, and if others are also not willing to get it during that time, then very few desirable games are going to be made for the system. As such, the price will drop due to the lack of demand and a need to clear up shelf space (as has occured with countless doomed systems in years past, I remember the $30 Virtual Boys just before they vanished altogether). This WOULD be the point where I would get it, assuming that when I got ultra cheap system, the few games I wanted were still being seld, ultra cheap themselves, brand new. If not, then it's to a used game store to pick one up, NOT, because if they are all "used", they have already been assigned to a system, and who knows if I'll actually be able to mix and match? I'd have to get a "locked set", a whole new style of selling used games where all used games played on one system are now, as a standard model, bundled together with the system proper.

Then I realized mod chips exist, and this would probably be seriously worth modding over.
I think that the PS3 is all one elaborate hoax. A month or so before launch time, Sony is going to go "Just kidding! Boy we really ha you fooled! Here's the REAL PS3!"

That is pretty much the only way that Sony can save the sinking PS3 ship right about now.
Wouldn't it be zany to the maxx if the PS3 took over the WORLD anyway, because it's a Playstation?
It would be really, really sad.
But it would be wacky and crazy like those un-funny political comics where they take someone's idiotic statement and then they dress up the guy who said it like a clown and stick him in "crazy this politicians idea of reality land" with flying pigs and so on, and THEY AREN'T FUNNY.
This rumor has been around for a long time, so far there's no evidence to support the idea that Sony would actually attempt it... they know that it'd be extremely, extremely unpopular and I'm not sure if even they want to go THAT far.

... that said, with their repeatedly stated comments about how the PS3 is a computer, why not? Most online PC games use CD-Keys that only allow one user to use the game, after all, and often such titles cannot be resold even in most of the stores that DO carry used PC games (and if they are, they'd better include the account information!)...
The difference is that you can still install that game on another computer.

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True, but resale, which was the main point of this thread, is greatly restricted...
I forged this very thread. Resale was part of it, but as I explained it also prevents a LOT of other things which I can still do with my computer games. I can't even let a friend borrow a game if they do something like this.
You can buy used games online. Under this, it would be diffucult [if not impossible] to do that.
True, both of you... which is why I think that Sony wouldn't try it. Do they REALLY want to anger gamers and retailers (given how much money and focus retailers put on selling used games...) that much? I'm not so sure.
It seems like anything goes for Sony this generation.
It would give Sony complete control over the usage, sale and security of each and every game for the system. I can totally see them doing it.
Official:

The technology exsists and is patented by Sony, however they have never implimented it and probably never will. If they did they would lose EB Games, Gamestop and Gamecrazy as retailers since they sell used games.

Source: 2 Sony Reps, one of which is a District Manager. (I work at Circuit City)