He may have been talking about the art design... but oh well...
Hey lazy, I have scrap metal all over the place. I understand it's completely fine to just throw it all out and let it go to waste like a NAZI, is that right?
Dear God NO! Wash out your mouth with soap young man!
Lert me tell you a story....
One day an evil dictator raised an army of inhuman fiends they ruled all over the country side killing everything including puppies and cute girls THE KIND YOU LIKE JOHNNY Then the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA used its eagles and Moses to deliver a swift punch to the groin of every German in the world (In Germany) who are heartless spineless creatures of hypocricy and sausage meats sometimes chocolates but VILE SICKENING CHOCOLATES THAT KILL BABIES.
Soon the evil Japanese would side with the ANTI HUMAN German hordes in hopes of eating our brains and stealing our women so we sent Jesus who used his DEATH RAY on the vile Japanese animals who are without a doubt anything but human and the world rejoiced the eagles were regal and jesus sheathed his mighty death ray for the army of evils were destroyed by our MIGHT and our JUSTICE and our SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER WANGS.
So you see, Johnny.... scrap metal is needed to build bombs and guns and bullets. Why, even that trash over there can be used to make a bullet that could one day save your father's life
(eventhoughitwouldtechnicallybeourfaultforsendinghimintowar......ahem)
Buy WAR BONDS and send in your tires and scrap metal and pantyhose so that the EAGLES and JESUS and MOSES can kill the creatures from across the sea! (oh beautiful, oh spacious skies) and you know Johnny (it's a grande old flag it's a high flying flag) it could be you someday fighting for your country (the bombs bursting in air) and wouldn't you want us to show you our support?
Johnny: well golly! *Moses carries an Eagle and sheds a tear as he and Jesus look over an American sky line* Yeah mister!
(AND THE HOME......... OF THE....... BRAVE!!!!!!!)
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Quote:He may have been talking about the art design... but oh well...
Don't listen to him, OB1 hates good art design.. :)
(OB1, has the raft of graphics awards WoW has won forced you to admit yet that people actually DO like the game's graphics?)
In this case, what's wrong with the art design? I don't see anything worth mentioning... and remember, it'll just get better, given how the game's still a ways off...
Oh yeah... as for spiders, where? Which are spiders?
Lazy, I was referring to the little spider. I just thought the design was lacking compared to everything else in the game. It wasn't awful, just uninspired by comparison.
And ABF, you troll, I only ever put down WOW's technical merit. I've always said that Blizzard's art is great.
Quote:and you know Johnny
But...I'm Johhny...
I'd quote something if I could remember which threads we had those WoW arguements in... :D
this zelda game is looking pretty awesome. i just wish it wasn't coming out so late in the CG's life. and i wish that i was more into console games these days.
the only game i ever wanna play these days is WoW which is the awesomest game ever.
I can't wait for the holiday season.
Though come to think of it, if Nintendo continues their trend of releasing a new system every five years, shouldn't that mean that a new system will come out in 2006? After all, the SNES came out in 1991, the N64 in 1996, and the GC in 2001. I haven't heard any news on Nintendo's next big system, even though we got news of the GC as early as 1999. (Back when it was called the Dolphin, though not much else was known about it at the time.)
I think it's great that it's coming out so late in the cube's life. Shows that Nintendo isn't just going to abandon cube owners like they did with the N64, or like MS is soon going to do with the Xbox.
'06, yes, that is the year we should expect to see the Revolution... as well as the PS3. Unless the PS3 is delayed, in which case Revolution probably will be as well...
And yes, it's a good idea to release great games even late in a system's life. The question is when is it too late and the game will be ignored, like N64 games were for much of the last year... that definitely hasn't happened yet to the GC.
Ah, so you finally admit that the XB2 is gonna be out this year? Told ya so. And if you're still denying it, well, prepare to eat crow come E3.
There's no way the PS3 and Revolution will be out any later than 2006. The XB2 is coming out THIS YEAR so a year-long headstart might already be too long.
Uh, I've said that before, OB1. I wasn't saying that the X-Box 2 WOULDN'T come out this year. I was saying that it was STUPID to do that. And I still think that.
As for PS3 (and by proxy Revolution), who knows. We haven't heard anything yet and there could be delays, especially for PS3 if the PS2 continues to do really well... remember, the PS1's success put off the PS2 for some time...Yeah, 2006 is definitely most likely, though...
When you use the past as an example you have to look at all of the facts. You never do that, which is why you were so wrong about the PSP never having a chance against the Gameboy.
The PS2 came out a bit later than it would have if the PS1 were less successful because Sony had no competition to worry about. The Dreamcast was only a niche success and the N64 was dead. No Gamecube for a long time, either. Now, on the other hand, the only company that has a chance of taking the crown from Sony is releasing their next-generation hardware a whole year before they release theirs. Sony's official response is "that didn't work for the DC, so it won't work for the XB2", which is foolish and very much like Nintendo's earlier stance on the PSP (and still the stance of many a blind fanboy, yourself included). I can guarantee, however, that as soon as Sony sees Microsoft's impressive XB2 showing at E3, they're not going to allow any sort of delay for the PS3 and will release it as soon as humanly possible. My guess is that they'll try to get it out as early as summer '06 in Japan. Just a hunch.
Microsoft releasing the XB2 this year is probably the best thing they can do. Their hardware isn't nearly as powerful as the PS3 (reportedly) and they know that the PS2's head start was a huge help for Sony. If MS has a chance at taking the number one spot, this is probably it. They're gonna give it all they got and hope that everyone hops on board this holiday season. Whether it's a successful move or not remains to be seen.
The PS3 and the Revolution will probably be released no earlier than summer of '06 and no later than November of 2006. That's my official prediction.
That's basically my prediction. :p
But you stole it from me...by telepathy...
Ah, so I forgot to consider the fact that your opinions (here, predictions) are always the correct ones, OB1?
Quote:When you use the past as an example you have to look at all of the facts. You never do that, which is why you were so wrong about the PSP never having a chance against the Gameboy.
If the PSP does indeed become a big success it'd both be because Sony did well and Nintendo stumbled. Not just because Sony did well. And I absolutely still think that the PSP has some big drawbacks! People will just ignore them because of how 'cool' it looks and the graphics is can produce... and, most importantly, the Sony/PlayStation name and marketing machine (THAT I've cited as a way for the PSP to succeed many times)...
Quote:The PS2 came out a bit later than it would have if the PS1 were less successful because Sony had no competition to worry about. The Dreamcast was only a niche success and the N64 was dead. No Gamecube for a long time, either. Now, on the other hand, the only company that has a chance of taking the crown from Sony is releasing their next-generation hardware a whole year before they release theirs. Sony's official response is "that didn't work for the DC, so it won't work for the XB2", which is foolish and very much like Nintendo's earlier stance on the PSP (and still the stance of many a blind fanboy, yourself included). I can guarantee, however, that as soon as Sony sees Microsoft's impressive XB2 showing at E3, they're not going to allow any sort of delay for the PS3 and will release it as soon as humanly possible. My guess is that they'll try to get it out as early as summer '06 in Japan. Just a hunch.
Sorry, but the PS2 definitely was delayed because of the PSX's success. Remember originally the PS2 was supposed to come out just a couple of years after the PSX? They had this whole schedule... PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5... well, that went away because of how well the PS1 did. Yes, a lack of competition was also a factor. But the PS2 is also #1 in the field, so that cannot explain it all.
As for 'didn't work for DC, won't work for XB2', that's a perfectly good position... first to launch definitely doesn't have a historical connotation with the #1 overall console and I doubt that the XB2 will change that. The best MS can hope for is to be like the Genesis -- an early launch which brings short-term success that the other console(s, in this case) slowly wear away.
That video ranks among the most beautiful things I've ever seen. One day, years from now, I'm going to look down on my newborn child and say "Well, it's okay, but it's not the Zelda trailer. Have you seen that friggen thing??"
Darunia rejoice, your race has returned, and they seem to have it out for Link this time...maybe Volvagia is back.
Unless Link's wearing a gnat hat Darunia of TC's race isn't the one that returned :D.
I still want to know what ever became of the Hero of Time. Last I checked, he defeated a mask of utter darkness and despair using the power of an even DARKER mask that made him half demon (I figured out that oni means "demon").
So like, what if Link has to fight the old Hero of Time who has become the Villian of Time and return him to his old self? What if the Fierce Diety Mask imprisons Vaati? What if what if what if...
I dunno, I just had this nifty idea for a Zelda game story. At least, a reason for Link to have to fight himself repeatedly using an involving fighting system.... It's... actually just a story I came up with so that such battles could take place repeatedly in the game...
Could be cool, but I don't know if they'd turn one of the Links evil...
Quote:If the PSP does indeed become a big success it'd both be because Sony did well and Nintendo stumbled. Not just because Sony did well. And I absolutely still think that the PSP has some big drawbacks! People will just ignore them because of how 'cool' it looks and the graphics is can produce... and, most importantly, the Sony/PlayStation name and marketing machine (THAT I've cited as a way for the PSP to succeed many times)...
I have dozens of posts from you where you denied the possibility of a successful PSP. You even said that the GBA itself was enough to fend off the system. Don't try to backtrack, okay? We
all know what your stance has been.
Quote:Sorry, but the PS2 definitely was delayed because of the PSX's success. Remember originally the PS2 was supposed to come out just a couple of years after the PSX? They had this whole schedule... PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5... well, that went away because of how well the PS1 did. Yes, a lack of competition was also a factor. But the PS2 is also #1 in the field, so that cannot explain it all.
I just said that the PS2 came out later than it could have because of the PS1's success, genius. Why don't you try
reading my posts every once in a while.
Quote:As for 'didn't work for DC, won't work for XB2', that's a perfectly good position... first to launch definitely doesn't have a historical connotation with the #1 overall console and I doubt that the XB2 will change that. The best MS can hope for is to be like the Genesis -- an early launch which brings short-term success that the other console(s, in this case) slowly wear away.
Yeah, what a perfectly good position, you're totally right. It absolutely makes sense. Microsoft is
totally as inept as Sega. What was I thinking??!
Quote:I have dozens of posts from you where you denied the possibility of a successful PSP. You even said that the GBA itself was enough to fend off the system. Don't try to backtrack, okay? We all know what your stance has been.
The GBA should be a strong competitor for the next year, anyway. With its sales base, and consistent game sales, you can't count it out yet, and it definitely helps Nintendo hold on to the portable gaming market... so yes, it definitely helps against the PSP. Is it enough alone? Not with the adult market for sure, but children, perhaps yes.
Quote:Yeah, what a perfectly good position, you're totally right. It absolutely makes sense. Microsoft is totally as inept as Sega. What was I thinking??!
They sure seem to be trying that same strategy! Sega used it for the Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast... and of course it only worked in the first of those three cases. It also failed for 3D0, NEC (TurboGrafx), Atari, etc, etc... sure, most of those have other circumstances that helped with their defeat while MS is in much better shape. But still, I'm not sure why an early launch would help it have overall victory. There just is no trend that that is the case and I doubt it's going to start being that way now. It's just a short-term gain, and once Sony is in with a new console it'll be mostly erased.
Quote:I just said that the PS2 came out later than it could have because of the PS1's success, genius. Why don't you try reading my posts every once in a while.
Quote:The PS2 came out a bit later than it would have if the PS1 were less successful because Sony had no competition to worry about. The Dreamcast was only a niche success and the N64 was dead. No Gamecube for a long time, either. Now, on the other hand, the only company that has a chance of taking the crown from Sony is releasing their next-generation hardware a whole year before they release theirs. Sony's official response is "that didn't work for the DC, so it won't work for the XB2", which is foolish and very much like Nintendo's earlier stance on the PSP (and still the stance of many a blind fanboy, yourself included). I can guarantee, however, that as soon as Sony sees Microsoft's impressive XB2 showing at E3, they're not going to allow any sort of delay for the PS3 and will release it as soon as humanly possible. My guess is that they'll try to get it out as early as summer '06 in Japan. Just a hunch.
My point was that it was more than 'a bit later'. Definitely more.
Quote:The GBA should be a strong competitor for the next year, anyway. With its sales base, and consistent game sales, you can't count it out yet, and it definitely helps Nintendo hold on to the portable gaming market... so yes, it definitely helps against the PSP. Is it enough alone? Not with the adult market for sure, but children, perhaps yes.
Please look at recent hardware sales figures in Japan.
Quote:hey sure seem to be trying that same strategy! Sega used it for the Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast... and of course it only worked in the first of those three cases. It also failed for 3D0, NEC (TurboGrafx), Atari, etc, etc... sure, most of those have other circumstances that helped with their defeat while MS is in much better shape. But still, I'm not sure why an early launch would help it have overall victory. There just is no trend that that is the case and I doubt it's going to start being that way now. It's just a short-term gain, and once Sony is in with a new console it'll be mostly erased.
Dude you're totally right again. The PSX coming out early and the PS2 coming out early totally didn't help them against the N64 and GC/XB, respectively.
Quote:My point was that it was more than 'a bit later'. Definitely more.
So your point is that my adverb wasn't strong enough?? Get a life!
Quote:So your point is that my adverb wasn't strong enough?? Get a life!
Years is more than 'a bit'. It does matter as it shows what you meant by the statement.
Quote:Dude you're totally right again. The PSX coming out early and the PS2 coming out early totally didn't help them against the N64 and GC/XB, respectively.
PS2... it's tough to say if it came out early. After all, the DC had been out for a year by then, so you could say it was late... but compared to when the PS1 shipped, it was probably right about on time if you give the PS1 a full life. The real problem was that since the N64 had shipped comparitively late, Nintendo didn't want to abandon it REALLY early, and tried to have it compete with DC and PS2... as for MS, who knows. It was their first console so they were a bit late.
Quote:Years is more than 'a bit'. It does matter as it shows what you meant by the statement.
The PS2 did not come out YEARS later than it was originally supposed to.
Quote:PS2... it's tough to say if it came out early. After all, the DC had been out for a year by then, so you could say it was late... but compared to when the PS1 shipped, it was probably right about on time if you give the PS1 a full life. The real problem was that since the N64 had shipped comparitively late, Nintendo didn't want to abandon it REALLY early, and tried to have it compete with DC and PS2... as for MS, who knows. It was their first console so they were a bit late.
The Dreamcast wasn't even competition for the PSone, let alone the PS2. Sony got a head start on Nintendo and MS (something they BOTH admit was a factor in Sony's huge lead this gen), and MS is trying to prevent that from happening again.
Quote:Sony got a head start on Nintendo and MS (something they BOTH admit was a factor in Sony's huge lead this gen), and MS is trying to prevent that from happening again.
I SAID that!
Quote:The Dreamcast wasn't even competition for the PSone, let alone the PS2.
Not mass-market, but it did well for a while with some people...
Quote:The PS2 did not come out YEARS later than it was originally supposed to.
I'd be a major pain to find that article I'm remembering... but I thought I remember seeing something with new PS'es coming about every other year. Pretty old. Might be in one of those old EGMs I have... but I won't be able to check it for a few months as those are at home.
Quote:I SAID that!
Quote:Not mass-market, but it did well for a while with some people...
That's what I said. That's what niche means.
Quote:I'd be a major pain to find that article I'm remembering... but I thought I remember seeing something with new PS'es coming about every other year. Pretty old. Might be in one of those old EGMs I have... but I won't be able to check it for a few months as those are at home.
You're imagining things.
Quote:You're imagining things.
I'm not, but can't prove it right now.
Quote:That's what I said. That's what niche means.
Sure. But the point was that PS2 had competition that came out a year before it came out, so it's hard to say that it was early. It's just that you can't break everything up into nice clean generation lines like you wish you could... in the real world these things are messy. So we got a PS2 coming about on time and a GC coming out a year later but probably early when compared to the launch date of their previous console.
Quote:I'm not, but can't prove it right now.
You never can!
Quote:Sure. But the point was that PS2 had competition that came out a year before it came out, so it's hard to say that it was early. It's just that you can't break everything up into nice clean generation lines like you wish you could... in the real world these things are messy. So we got a PS2 coming about on time and a GC coming out a year later but probably early when compared to the launch date of their previous console.
You're still calling the DC "competition"? It wasn't even competition against the PSone! Sony could take their time with the PS2 release because they had no competition. Now is very different.
Quote:You never can!
I need to find that article... not easy. :)
Quote:You're still calling the DC "competition"? It wasn't even competition against the PSone! Sony could take their time with the PS2 release because they had no competition. Now is very different.
Another console in the market is competition, however successful (or not) it is.
It wasn't real competition. Going by your logic the Game.com was real competition to the Gameboy.
The Dreamcast was a lot better competition than the Game.com, for sure.
They're both examples of non-competition. Sony did not fear the DC, and with good reason.
Game.com...
Oh yeah! The system that, at first, I thought had online play due to the name. Reading the advertisement told me otherwise... Truly, a misleading name for a system... No matter, honestly I had just got a GBC at the time :D. What other systems have horribly misleading names? Oh yeah! The Nintendo 64! The system that was 64 bits of raw power! Turns out it was a 32-bit machine. Oh sure, the number 64 appeared SOMEWHERE on the system's spec sheet :D. I found it very odd that Nintendo was being renowned as a company that "didn't care about graphics and wouldn't use misleading advertising like SONY would!" while at the same time naming a system AFTER a technical spec that wasn't even accurate and, as we now know, wouldn't have even had a major impact on the system's capabilities anyway. Heck, half the games Nintendo made for the thing had 64 in the name. Nintendo doesn't care about graphics or mislead people... right...
Sacred Jellybean Wrote:I can't wait that long. :( Imagine that... I'm anticipating information that I need to anticipate something else.
That's what being a Nintendo fan is all about.
True, annoyingly enough...
I wouldn't have it anyother way.
...
Wait...yes, I would.