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Quote:This is from some guy on the Nintendopower forums. He apparently was the first to give good DS specs before they were revealed...so this may be good.

There has been a TON of speculation on Nintendo's upcoming console but little is actually known about it. There are so many different ideas that no one really knows what to think. So here are some supposed "facts" about the Revolution. I can't reveal my source because I've been asked not to. Sorry guys. I would say that this info has at least a 65% chance of being accurate. My source has been right before and he's also been wrong. Here goes......

Ok first things first. Yes, Nintendo will utilize gyros in it's controllers. I think most people pretty much already took this as fact. Also, the Rev will indeed have dual processors. Also broadband is built in, no modem to buy. Nintendo has an online strategy in development. It will be implemented on the DS first. There are no current plans to connect the DS and the Rev....the GB Evolution on the other hand......

The Rev will have four controller ports. It will have a hard drive which will be used in much the same way as the 64DD was supposed to be used. Things like Dolby Digital 5.1 and high def monitor support are included. There is no type of virtual reality or any kind of headset planned. It is backwards compatible with Gamecube games. It will use the HD-DVD format and not Sony's Blu-Ray. Controllers are not wireless, but wireless controllers are planned. It will launch with an unnamed Mario game and work on Zelda has already begun. Super Smash Brothers is in mid development and will be a launch title.

Ok so what's the Revolutionary part? That's what you all want to know. Well my source wouldn't tell me. He said it would get him into too much trouble, and could give Sony and Microsoft an advantage at this stage in the game. But he did say this; "if you think too hard you'll never guess what it is. It's nothing "new" technically speaking. It's just something that hasn't really been applied to video games yet."

He then said "touching is good but feeling is better". What exactly that means I have no idea. Some sort of force feedback device? We already have rumble packs.

For more information on gyration technology, go to http://www.gyration.com
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=31827

Thanks to
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/21/...16926.html
Sounds like a wish list if you ask me. Still, it would be awesome if it turned out to be too...but I'm not holding me breath.
Quote:Super Smash Brothers is in mid development and will be a launch title.

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Yeah, it does have some of the signs of a wishlist, but some of it sounds like stuff Nintendo has been saying too... the gyro-tech, some other secret with the hardware/controller, etc...

The thing I'd put the most doubt on is the harddrive and built-in internet, given Nintendo's opinions on such matters for years now. But the rest... definitely possible...
A Black Falcon Wrote:The thing I'd put the most doubt on is the harddrive and built-in internet, given Nintendo's opinions on such matters for years now. But the rest... definitely possible...

I'd be skeptical too, if not for the fact that they threw their hat into the ring of online play with the DS. I bet that they'll see how players respond and use the online wi-fi capabilites of the DS before deciding on a direction for the Revolution.

I can believe a hard drive. Nintendo isn't a stupid company, their two major competitors both have hard drives and are very useful, so I can see then wanting to follow that lead.
They don't have online play with the DS. They have local wireless. That's a totally different thing. Yes, the DS could be used for internet play, but it doesn't have any games that do that so far...
The DS should be online this year, so I believe that Revolution will be online-ready at or soon after launch.

As for these rumors, I think a good gyroscopic controller system could change the way we play games, depending on how Nintendo implements them. Remember that Nintendo said that the Revolution would use existing technology in innovative ways.
Hopefully all these things come true.

I think they should actually call their new system the Revolution, instead of just having that as code-name.
i think they should only do that if it's actually revolutionary
The problem with that idea is that Nintendo these days seems to call almost anything revolutionary...

But yeah, it would be great if all of those predictions came true. If only they do...
Quote:The problem with that idea is that Nintendo these days seems to call almost anything revolutionary..

True, but if they have controllers with gyros, I say that's a bit revolutionary. Maybe.
It depends on what the controller can do. If it's just a tilt controller, it's not, but maybe they could do something revolutionary with it...
Well... this is interesting... read!

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/index.php?p=137

Nintendo, of course, has no comment (Gamespot).
Can't wait for all of those rubbing games! I bet Itagaki will be first on board!
Rubbing the controller? No, we're not doing that.
Yeah I'm... not going to be doing that... It would require more coordination than I'm physically capable of. I prefer giant buttons that have only two possible states, much easier to realize your will with those.

As for the gyro, that's just motion detection. What it will allow is mouse control with a third axis and tilting control though. I've used those before. It'll be a nice control improvement for a number of games actually. I wouldn't call it a revolution though.

Interesting, but these two reports contradict each other. One says it'll use HD-DVD tech, and the other says it'll have only 5 gigs capacity. Neither have any proof, though one DOES have a drawing with all my own artistic ability. Eh, interesting wish lists, one from a Japanese freak who wants to rub their controller...
The sketch is interesting, and obviously an attempt to get more credibility... but it could just as easily have been faked. Yeah, you're right DJ -- these two reports contradict eachother. It'll be interesting to see what happens... both of them sound pretty interesting, though I don't know if I'd want it to come out this year as this one suggests (though it'd probably be delayed anyway). And a larger disk than 5GB would be good. The PS3 at least will have a much bigger one...

As for gyro/tilt control, who knows. It all depends on how it's implemented... and I wouldn't put enough credibility in this report to fully believe it. But with all the rumors of something about gyros out there I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Revolution controller use them in some way. I did use a tilt controller once, other than Kirby's Tilt & Tumble... Microsoft's Sidewinder tilt controller, best designed for motorcycle games. It's interesting. Takes a bit of getting used to, but different... though this report is different, I don't know how it would work. Rubbing the controller? Strange...
A real force feedback console controller would be awesome. Yunno, so that it's actually difficult to press the control stick in a direction becase you're pulling something or it becomes slipery and easy to move when you're on ice or rattles when you fire a gun.

How many people here have actually held a gyroscope while it's spinning? If you could actually control the level of its spin and the 360 direction you could create an incredible gameplay experience. It would add the feeling of weight, movement and resistence... which has never been done before with much success.
Right.
Force Feedback joysticks are strange... I've used one a few times. It's quite different from a simple rumble gamepad... but I don't know how you'd do force feedback in anything other than a joystick or wheel, given that it is about motors moving the stick/wheel around...