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Quote:October 07, 2004 - The gaming stars came out at yesterday's NDS press conference in Japan, voicing their support for the DS platform and hinting at things to come for the system. One of the big names at the event was Square Enix's Akitoshi Kawazu. The producer of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles spoke on-stage with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto about upcoming NDS support.

Following a teaser trailer that announced Final Fantasy III's new status as a DS game, Miyamoto commented, "This is the first time that Final Fantasy III has appeared on hardware outside of the Famicom (Japanese NES), isn't it?" Offering up memories of the Wonderswan version of the game, which never surfaced despite a lengthy development time, Kawazu responded with, "Over the past 15 years we've tried numerous times, but as we couldn't get it to work, this time we've decided to make the game for DS."

No actual gameplay footage or screens of Final Fantasy III were shown, but Kawazu gave some hints at what we can expect from the game. "The interface has completely changed," he offered. "Please look forward to seeing how the game has been given a new life."

Steering the conversation towards other games, Miyamoto offered, "Aside from this, Square Enix is also in development with a new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, right?". Kawazu responded with, "Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles was played by connecting the GameCube and Game Boy Advance, but for Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, that paradigm is gone, with the game played just on the DS. It's easier to get into."

Miyamoto used Awazu's talk of one of GameCube's big connectivity hours to segue into a bit on Nintendo's own plans. "At the time of GameCube and Game Boy Advance connectivity," Miyamoto recalled, "you had to connect the system to four [Game Boy Advance] systems, so the entry was a bit high. However, the DS has two screens and WiFi support, so we feel the threshold is a lot lower. We're thinking of bringing Zelda: Four Swords to the DS, so let's compete!"

Returning to the topic of Square Enix, Miyamoto moved on to the internet side of gaming, asking, "Square Enix brings up thoughts of the internet. We're thinking of doing something where the DS connects to the internet, but what do you have planned?". To this, Kawazu responded with, "Moving the stuff that we currently have running onto the DS would be difficult from a hardware standpoint, but if we were to try our mobile contents on the DS, we feel the network threshold would drop." Miyamoto managed the last word, offering, "Preparing a wireless LAN network can be difficult, but if you just have that, all you have to do is turn on the power and you can instantly play the game."

Kawazu's final comment could hint at another Final Fantasy game for the DS. Currently, Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII is the big-name mobile network-based game from Square Enix. In its cell phone version, the network play is limited to just e-mails, but on the DS this could definitely become something a bit more involved.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/555/555485p1.html
Quote:We're thinking of bringing Zelda: Four Swords to the DS

"Thinking of"?? Wasn't FS DS confirmed last March or something?
That is kind of weird... I hope they are more than "thinking of" it. But I thought the most interesting part is where Miyamoto says Nintendo is considering Internet hookups in some fashion to the DS... it'd be such a good idea that I thought Nintendo wouldn't do it... :)
Yeah well they also flat-out said that online gaming would be a big part of the DS at E3 and then said that online gaming sucks the next month. Nintendo is schizophrenic and needs help.
That is true. We will see what actually happens...
My prediction:

Nothing happens.
My prediction:

The universe explodes thus making their decision to do one thing or the other irrelavent in the grand scheme of things.
i was just thinking. i guess i'm not really sure how this "wifi" shit works...but we got wifi hubs all over campus that allow the fancy students with laptops to access the internet when they're in certain buildings (such as the library or the union...some day i think they're going to implement it in all the dorms too maybe...). anyway, if the DS supports wifi then wouldn't it automatically support online play? because it'd be able to access the internet as long as you were near a wifi hub (for me, inside the library or union). so all a game would need to be on-line is some sort of matchmaking system and a gamer willing to get his ass to a wifi hub.

right?
And I now have a wifi hub INSIDE MY VERY HOUSE, and so does one family member, and one friend of mine. They are SPREADING!

We are the wifi, guy, resistance is futil, guy.

Well, the idea of Squenix bringing that cell phone game to an actual gaming system is pretty nice. I'd like to see what that game plays like. If the current link-up is just e-mail, well, they don't need to give you your own account, just let you use your own E-MAIL, E-MAIL *rock*. Wow, that was pretty awesome, what function key do I need to press to get that back?

And the FF guy's comments kinda support my theory. That is, he says the interface has completely changed. I would like the original interface to still be in there of course, but this "totally new" interface might just be the stylus thing. I could be wrong though as this person could mean the interface has only "totally changed" in the same way that FF1 and FF2's interface was changed, that is, just cleaned up and streamlined (like being able to buy any number of items rather than just one at a time over and over again). So, I'm hesitant to actually believe it with this other perfectly valid explanation for what he said hanging around. Still, I sure hope they go with a nice PC style interface.
big guy Wrote:i was just thinking. i guess i'm not really sure how this "wifi" shit works...but we got wifi hubs all over campus that allow the fancy students with laptops to access the internet when they're in certain buildings (such as the library or the union...some day i think they're going to implement it in all the dorms too maybe...). anyway, if the DS supports wifi then wouldn't it automatically support online play? because it'd be able to access the internet as long as you were near a wifi hub (for me, inside the library or union). so all a game would need to be on-line is some sort of matchmaking system and a gamer willing to get his ass to a wifi hub.

right?

Yeah, that's how it should work, and that was even one of Nintendo's big selling points at E3... but then they decided that online was still something "gamers don't want".
I HATE THIS STUPID MESSAGE BOARD! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRG! I HAD THIS WHOLE THING TYPED UP AND BOOM, THE SITE DOESNT" EXIST! WHY CAN'T IT BE PROGRAMED TO REMEMBE WHAT I TYPED WHEN I HIT BACK? THE OLD ONE DID!

REALLY, WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE EVER ANSWER ME?!

Let's TRY THIS AGAIN.

It seems Square-Enix is releasing yet ANOTHER FF7 universe game. Crisis Core.

http://www.ffwa.org/fullstory/21
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/games/psp/ccff7/
http://www.ign.com
http://www.adventchildren.net

So then, the PSP will be getting this, as such, it seems Square-Enix is playing it safe by releasing stuff for both of these systems.

But, there is ANOTHER thing I found out here. The PSP's price has been set, to a staggering 20000 yen! *converts* Well now! That's only 185 buckazoids! I can actually GET one at that price, perhaps on top of getting a DS! The site also adds that it'll be more like $225 after buying "must have accessories", but honestly I have no idea what that means. What "must haves" could there possibly be, really? I mean, the battery and recharge adapter will certainly be included with the system. I already HAVE a headset (a must have so you don't get people angry with you in public), so really, what could you need to buy?

Oh wait, this is interesting, battery life. This sucks... It's only 4-6 hours... With a 5 hour average life, I guess there IS one must have, another battery :D. They have the right price I'd say, it's only a bit more than the DS. However, that battery life is going to be a major problem... Really, with a motor and laser in the thing, the low battery life is to be expected, but it's still a problem. By contrast, I drained my SP's batteries over the course of yesterday and overnight, and it only finally was drained a little after I woke up. I did that out of a silly "charge memory" fear, which isn't even physically possible on li-ion batteries, I know, but memories of nickel-cadmium bring them back... Point is, I could have actually PLAYED the system the whole time. (I had a game with a demo mode that constantly played, so it was pushing the system as much as if I was actually playing it, button pressing takes up no significant energy).

Now, I know, I can recharge it, but the point is how long it lasts. On long trips away from outlets, I got nothing unless I have a replacement battery, and I can't ask someone for a spare cup of PSP rechargeble battery! Besides that, if the thing is hooked to a wall half the time, it isn't very portable! I like knowing I can usually depend on the system working and not have to worry about recharging after just ONE play session.

Anyway, the PSP is affordable, contrary to mass opinion, which is great. The PSP has bad battery life, which is... bad... I believe I'll still get it though. Besides, Sony may make a better battery. There IS a physical limit to the smallest size they can fit a certain level of charge into though. Now, to avoid this delete thing happening again *copy*, NOW submit!
Quote:i was just thinking. i guess i'm not really sure how this "wifi" shit works...but we got wifi hubs all over campus that allow the fancy students with laptops to access the internet when they're in certain buildings (such as the library or the union...some day i think they're going to implement it in all the dorms too maybe...). anyway, if the DS supports wifi then wouldn't it automatically support online play? because it'd be able to access the internet as long as you were near a wifi hub (for me, inside the library or union). so all a game would need to be on-line is some sort of matchmaking system and a gamer willing to get his ass to a wifi hub.

It's the same on my campus -- wireless in the library, union, and some other buildings, but not yet in dorms... just ethernet plugs. Wireless does seem to be spreading though... but I don't mind wires. The only advantage of wireless really (at home) is if you want to use a computer online in a room far away from your ethernet adaptor and don't want to have to lay wires all over the house... I see no advantage for a place like a dorm. But anyway, any way Nintendo could implement a net connection would be better than nothing... but if you want most of your market to really be able to use it you should have put a port on the system to hook it up to ethernet cables.
There are tons of advantages to having wi-fi support at campus. You don't have to find an ethernet plug to hook up your latpop to wherever you go, there's no mess, and it smells better too*.



*what... plastic smells weird sometimes...
So have wi-fi in the library and the union, like there is. My point was why bother with the dorms? So that people can use laptops in the lounges easily?
Uh, yeah. The more places you can use your laptop without having to worry about wires, the better.
And if I had even the slightest intrest in getting a laptop, I might care. I don't, so I do not.
Then you have no say in this, doofus. Good grief, it's like arguing about what types of milk supermarkets should carry when you don't even like dairy.

:screwy:
Yes I do have a say! As I've said a dozen times before, it'd be really irritating if the DS was wireless internet only because then I couldn't use it much! THAT is my point... I didn't think I had to say it again given we've talked about it multiple times before...
What the fuck? How did this:

Quote:The only advantage of wireless really (at home) is if you want to use a computer online in a room far away from your ethernet adaptor and don't want to have to lay wires all over the house... I see no advantage for a place like a dorm.

Turn into this:

Quote:As I've said a dozen times before, it'd be really irritating if the DS was wireless internet only because then I couldn't use it much! THAT is my point... I didn't think I had to say it again given we've talked about it multiple times before...


I was specifically talking about wifi access in dorms, not ethernet plugs in DS', you giant weirdo! :screwy:
Both are being skeptical about wi-fi and its uses, that's how they are connected. :)
How the hell can you be skeptical about it?? It's not like giving the dorms wi-fi support means taking away wired support!
It looks like it does for the DS... and as for wiring dorms, it seems like it'd be a huge expense for little gain.
They would actually save money that way, as would everyone in the dorms.
yeah

for real
For reezy.
... save money? Uh, how?
i'd save money because i wouldn't need to buy a hub and ethernet cables to hook up computers in my room.

i don't know about the university...though it might make us seem more high-tech and attract new students.
They have two ports, assuming each student has one computer... and given that there isn't really space for more than one, I don't think this place at least has much need for hubs. Unless you are also connecting X-Boxes or something...
we have one port and 4 computers because i'm a in a 4 person room. even in the 2 person rooms tho, there's only one port.
You could just buy a hub or router (depending on if that port leads to a router or not)to expand the number of connections you can get out of those two ports ya know :D.
i have a hub...what i was saying is that if there was wifi i wouldn't need it because the whole building would be able to connect wirelessly, thereby saving me money.
And I was saying that here that isn't necessary unless you've got more objects than people in the room -- I don't think any bedrooms have more than 2 people. There are 4 person things, but I think those have two different rooms or something... I don't know really...
oh, i gotchya...you were talking about your school and i was talking about my school and it was so confusing for a time but now i see.

my room isn't a 4 person "bedroom" it's a 4 person "living area" with 2 bedrooms, one bathroom, and one living room shared by 4 people. unfortunately, the internet port is in the living room so if you want to hook up computers in the bedrooms, you're looking at having to buy some very long lengths of ethernet cable, and you'd still need a hub. so we have our computers all set up in the living room, which means that we buy shorter lengths of cable and still need a hub. but if we had wifi in our dorm, we could put our computers wherever we wanted in the entire "suite" and still have easy internet access without the need of an oft unreliable, cheap, wireless hub.
Ouch... there are some rooms like that here but I'm sure they have ports in each room (each single or double, anyway, gets two net ports (one for a single), a phone jack, and a cable TV jack...)...