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Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door came out today and I just got back from playing a bit of it. Now I have the urge to go on eBay and find a copy of the N64 Paper Mario.

Anyone else get Paper Mario 2 today? Discuss and whatnot.
I'm getting it next week because TRU is going to have that annual "buy two games, get a third one free" sale again. Next week is for GC and GBA, and the week after that is for XB and PS2. So I think I'll get PM2, Donkey Konga, and another copy of PM2 since my friend wants it. We'll pay around $35 for each game, since it's three for $100. For the GBA I think I'll get Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, Astro Boy, and something else.
Damn, we don't have anything like that. I bought PM2 at EB Games for $50. The best offer they've got is exchanging used games for store credit, which only earns you a few dollars, sometimes only a few cents, in credit. I took in an old Power Rangers game for SNES and got about 4 cents in credit as well as Superman for the N64, which was about $3 in credit. I'm sure only good games are worth crap there, but who would want to give up their good games?
You don't have a Toys R Us?
I may have to head out to TRU sometimes this weekend.
I'm not sure if it starts on sunday or monday, though.
Well...forget it then. I can't wait that long to play PM2!!
But you'll be getting it for $35 if you wait a few days...
Oh, Toys R Us. Yeah, I have one of those. In fact, that's where I got my Gamecube. I didn't know they were having a bargain like that. Damn, I should've gone there instead.
They have this deal every year.
I'm waiting for the TRU sale to get it as well. I think I'll be getting Paper Mario 2, Pikmin 2, and possibly Tales of Symphonia. I'm not totally sold on getting Tales, though, so I may get something different.
Donkey Konga! Only $50 for the drums and game, and you'll need the drums anyhow for Jungle Beat. Add in the TRU deal and the game is about $35, which basically means that you're getting the game for just $5 and the drums for their regular price. :D
Donkey Konga is only $50? For some reason I thought it was more than that because of the drums. Well that certainly made my decision easier.
Yup, it's a steal.
Slight change in the deal this year! First of all it begins on the week of the 24th, and it's only for PS2, GC, and X-Box games. No GBA unfortunately.

So crap, I gotta wait until the 24th before I get PM2. Damn I don't know if I can hold out that long...

Well, actually, Kirby and the Amazing Mirror will be enough to do the trick.
PM2 is going to hold me off until San Andreas comes out. Kirby and the Amazing Mirror is right below it on my imaginary list.
San Andreas is coming out in two weeks...
I know. I'll pick PM2 back up when I start to get tired of playing SA all the time.
Why are so many good games coming out in just a few months?
Seriously though. Before PM2, I hadn't bought any games since Wind Waker back in June or July.
Because we're getting into the holiday season, GR. All the good stuff is coming out so it can be piled under Christmas Trees in a couple months.

As for PM2, I love it. I'm not too far into it yet (only on the second chapter), but so far it's fun, engrossing, hilarious, and the battle system is genius. Although I do have to hunker down and try to beat it before San Andreas comes out, otherwise I'll never finish it :)

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Damn, waiting until this sale is gonna kill me...
I still haven't put the disc in my GC (I got the game two days ago with that spiffy 3-for-2 TRU deal), but I'm going to devote much of saturday and sunday to playing it.

I did notice something weird about the box, though. It has this cheap-looking "Best Seller" logo on the bottom-right corner. How could they put that on a brand-new game? It's not like it sold well in Japan or anything.
Mine didn't have a best seller icon... then again, I got mine on the day of its release, but it's still too soon to call it a best seller. (It hasn't even been out a month.)

Anyway, ignore my last post. I'm way past that part of the game now. I'm also playing through the original Paper Mario and San Andreas simulataneously. It's been a while since I've balanced three games all at once... I kinda missed the feeling.
Yeah, mine had that logo too. Another weird thing is my Donkey Konga game had a manual that was printed in English and French. Did they ship it from Quebec or something?
Maybe our copies were from.... THE FUTURE!!!111!!1!1
*faints*
*fells down*
bitch
The Thousand-Year Door's first two partners are pretty much the same as your first two partners from Paper Mario: one is a Goomba whose special ability is to state the obvious while the other is a Koopa whose shell you can kick.
I noticed that with Donkey Konga too. It had instruction manuals in English, French, and Spanish. Weird.

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Yeah, I just heard Luigi's first story and it is hilarious. The game seems to be getting funnier as I go along.
SMRPG is frickin' hilarious. It was my first exposure to that weird Japanese site gag in which, when people hear someone say something completely idiotic or dense, they all collapse in frustration.

And probably one of the funniest parts was Mallow's... entire story.

"Behold the young tadpole, Mallow."

Mario: ... (well, he's always silent, but you just know he was thinking "that marshmellow is NOT a frog!", even Mario wasn't THAT naive).
You really liked M&L more than PM, Derek? M&L is great but not up to the level of PM, IMO.
Man, I really want to paly Mario RPG. Can you believe I've never played it before? They never released it in Europe, and I've been waiting for a GBA port for ever...
OB1 Wrote:You really liked M&L more than PM, Derek? M&L is great but not up to the level of PM, IMO.

Yeah, I liked the dynamics of using Mario and Luigi in tandem in the field. I also thought it was funnier than Paper Mario. I think Paper Mario 2 may pass it, though, as I'm only through chapter 2 and have already logged about 10 hours of play. I'm so glad I've stopped reading videogame previews because I knew very little about Paper Mario 2 going into it, and I've had a blast so far.
Quote:Man, I really want to paly Mario RPG. Can you believe I've never played it before? They never released it in Europe, and I've been waiting for a GBA port for ever...

You could always get a ROM of it or you could do like I did and...own a copy of it.

A game that's really hilarious is Earthbound, the things people in the game say and the monster you fight. It's all crazy. I really hope Hal releases a new Earthbound someday.
OB1 Wrote:Man, I really want to paly Mario RPG. Can you believe I've never played it before? They never released it in Europe, and I've been waiting for a GBA port for ever...

I'd say it's worth picking up a used SNES and copy of it. It's okay on a ROM, but it's so much better to play it as intended. Truth be told, a few months back I bought a used SNES so I COULD play SMRPG again.

It really is worth the 30-40 it would take to find the game and system. It'll leave you laughing and coming back for more right up until the end. Trust me, it's too great a game to miss out on.

I, too, await a GBA Port of it, yet I do not think it is to be. It was joint effort between Nintendo and Square, and thus Square owns partial rights to it. The fact that a little bit of Final Fantasy music is in it doesn't help either, I'd guess. Though Square and Nintendo are collaborating again...maybe something is in the works right now...I can dream.

Seriously, if I never bought another GBA game in my life, all I would want is a port of SMRPG and Final Fantasy IV. I can die happy having those two games on the GBA.
Nintendo made deals with Rare so that EVERY game Rare made with DK was the sole property of Nintendo in the event of what recently happened to them (hence why they are porting the DKC games to GBA one by one) (excepting POSSIBLY Diddy Kong Racing since Nintendo allowed Rare to keep Banjo as their own creation).

I would assume that Nintendo would also have set up a similar deal with Square regarding SMRPG, that is, SMRPG is fully Nintendo's property EXCEPT for the Final Fantasy music. (Culex, just like the rest of the monsters in the game, is a unique creation. Don't let those guides made by people who admit near the start of them they never played a Final Fantasy game fool you, Culex isn't in any FF game.) You see, just because Square WORKED on it doesn't mean they own any rights to it. All Nintendo would need to do would be to change the music during the Culex battle (fight, end battle, and I think the game over music was even from Final Fantasy if you lost to Culex, which is a distinct possibility considering he was stronger than the final boss :D) to the normal music that played during all the other battles in the game (specifically, boss music).

SMRPG on GBA, that would be nice. The only problem is, even though the menu button could easily be mapped to L or R, the jump, run, and action buttons are the sort of buttons you sorta need to have right at your fingers. So, maybe port it to DS instead. But, I could live without, because my SNES WORKS :D. Actually, I need to play that game again. I never did get the legendary Super Jacket for managing to super jump 100 times in a row (since the timing for super jumping changes twice during the 100 jumps, you get thrown off, and you wanna throw your controller, but I'll eventually do it, so long as I don't jump on some spiny :D, well I could wear the steel jump shoes).

So, I'm almost certain Nintendo has every right to release SMRPG on GBA or DS so long as the FF music during the Culex battle is changed to standard SMRPG music. Of course, considering Culex is intended to be a huge Final Fantasy boss parody (Square poking fun at itself), changing the music would sorta kill the joke a bit (I pretty much cracked up seeing the elemental crystals, then the Final Fantasy IV battle music, and then it all ended with the Final Fantasy victory theme when I FINALLY won, only with some Mario music sorta overlaying it). So, Nintendo could do that just fine. It's getting another game that'd be the problem, BUT, remember, Square-Enix and Nintendo are buddies again. I bet Nintendo could get them to make Super Mario RPG 2 (well, it'd actually be the 5th Mario RPG, but the second to bear that name anyway), and could likely get permission to port SMRPG with the FF music intact during that deal too :D.

Again though, I can live with only ONE Mario RPG portable right now. I would LIKE to have it portable, but I can do without.

Need the game? Used game shops around here always have a spare copy lying around. Actually, and some of you may hate me for this, one of the used game shops has the Japanese version of that game, WITH THE FRICKIN' BOX AND A CONVERTER (which is basically just a straight through connector extender that defeats the two plastic pins that make up the entirety of the region lock-out scheme of the SNES). Honestly, the translation for SMRPG seems spot-on (though I kinda wonder exactly what ??? is, the thing that Mario found hidden in Peach's room, that she got VERY mad at him finding, eh, it was behind the fireplace, so it was probably just the ashes of some murder victim of her's).
Quote:Yeah, I liked the dynamics of using Mario and Luigi in tandem in the field. I also thought it was funnier than Paper Mario. I think Paper Mario 2 may pass it, though, as I'm only through chapter 2 and have already logged about 10 hours of play. I'm so glad I've stopped reading videogame previews because I knew very little about Paper Mario 2 going into it, and I've had a blast so far.

Yeah I liked that as well, and it was a very funny game. Funnier than PM1 though? Hmm.. I dunno. That part where you played as Peach was insanely funny. I also didn't care too much for the story or visuals of M&L.

Quote:You could always get a ROM of it or you could do like I did and...own a copy of it.

A game that's really hilarious is Earthbound, the things people in the game say and the monster you fight. It's all crazy. I really hope Hal releases a new Earthbound someday.

I don't like playing SNES games on my computer, and finding an SNES cart for cheap would be impossible.

EB is great. THAT I have played.

Quote:I'd say it's worth picking up a used SNES and copy of it. It's okay on a ROM, but it's so much better to play it as intended. Truth be told, a few months back I bought a used SNES so I COULD play SMRPG again.

It really is worth the 30-40 it would take to find the game and system. It'll leave you laughing and coming back for more right up until the end. Trust me, it's too great a game to miss out on.

I, too, await a GBA Port of it, yet I do not think it is to be. It was joint effort between Nintendo and Square, and thus Square owns partial rights to it. The fact that a little bit of Final Fantasy music is in it doesn't help either, I'd guess. Though Square and Nintendo are collaborating again...maybe something is in the works right now...I can dream.

Seriously, if I never bought another GBA game in my life, all I would want is a port of SMRPG and Final Fantasy IV. I can die happy having those two games on the GBA.

I already have an SNES, but I can't find a cheap copy of Mario RPG anywhere.
OB1 Wrote:Yeah I liked that as well, and it was a very funny game. Funnier than PM1 though? Hmm.. I dunno. That part where you played as Peach was insanely funny. I also didn't care too much for the story or visuals of M&L.

The Peach parts of PM1 were pretty funny, but I still had more fun with Mario & Luigi. Obviously the visuals in PM1 were better, but you can't fault M&L for being a handheld game. Anyway, the Bowser sections of PM2 really put the Peach sections of PM1 to shame. The Peach sections of PM2 kind of suck so far, though.
I've only played a little bit of M&L so I can't make a great comparison, but I have to say that one of the best things about PM is how the graphics are so perfect... I mean, I don't know how a Mario game could look any better than that overall, really. M&L doesn't come close to comparing either technically or stylistically... gameplay-wise I can't compare them though, and that's the most important aspect.

Oh yeah, and the Peach segments in PM are awesome...
Quote:The Peach parts of PM1 were pretty funny, but I still had more fun with Mario & Luigi. Obviously the visuals in PM1 were better, but you can't fault M&L for being a handheld game. Anyway, the Bowser sections of PM2 really put the Peach sections of PM1 to shame. The Peach sections of PM2 kind of suck so far, though.

Yeah M&L was very funny, especially the made-up Italian. A doodie potato!! Lol

And I'm talking about artistic style, not technical merit. I couldn't care less about that. No, it was the art style that I really disliked.
I was talking about both, but yeah, the art style is definitely the more important of the two.
Okay, art style definitely goes to the original Paper Mario when comparing it to M&L's art style. I do believe the art style in the Paper Mario games has a bigger factor on the gameplay than in many games, but I still stand by my statement that M&L was more fun. Not by much, though.
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