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KICK ASS! I just read this on Yahoo! Whoa, you can get AKs, Uzis, TEC-9s, etc. I want one. That'd be cool.

Imagine going do to the hood, where some stupidass "gangstas" try to mug you with their gay "9s," and you pull out a TEC-9 submachine gun. (Well it has to be semiautomatic.) But still, damn.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040912/pl_nm/campaign_guns_dc_3

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040913/thumb.nyet25109131410.assault_weapons_nyet251.jpg

So would you guys want a semiautomatic or what?
Jesus H. Christ, is this for real??!? What the fuck is wrong with this country!!
The ban has a time-limit. But I don't really think you'll suddenly find AKs on sale at Wal-Mart in three days.

It's almost certain to be reinstated.
One of the things I never understood was why some guns were banned and some were weren't, even though they are almost exactly the same.
There is no reason to own an assault rifle. The reasons people have for owning guns right now (hunting, personal protection) do not require assault rifles. Unless of course you need to kill 20 deer at the same time.
GR, I'm no gun nut, but if you have EVER played an FPS that uses real world weapons, you should EASILY know the diff between different guns! The fact that one can fire 1000 shots in a second with force enough to shred most body armor makes it MUCH different than a shot by shot tiny little gun that can't break glass (derringers, those things are weak, POWERFUL weak).

An assault rifle has only one purpose, war. There is no reason anyone should be allowed to own one, for the same reason people shouldn't be owning plutonium. Hunting, self defense, sure, but yeesh, talk about your overkill... literally...
Well said, DJ.


...even though you won't see this post.
Sickening. That's about all.
Well, I already have enough people who want me dead. Now those people have access to the means.

If I don't make it back to post ever again, I'd just like to say that I love you all, except for Darunia, who stopped up the toilet last night.
Quote:GR, I'm no gun nut, but if you have EVER played an FPS that uses real world weapons, you should EASILY know the diff between different guns! The fact that one can fire 1000 shots in a second with force enough to shred most body armor makes it MUCH different than a shot by shot tiny little gun that can't break glass (derringers, those things are weak, POWERFUL weak).

That's not what I'm talking about at all. What I'm talking about is this law banned some guns and didn't affect others, even though some were exactly the same. Such as one gun was banned, but another that was exactly the same wasn't banned because it didn't have a flash-supressor or something small like that. Other than that, though the two guns were almost identicle. Look I'm all for banning high-powered guns, nobody needs a gun that powerful for hunting deer or protecting their house, but there's needs to be a law that bans ALL high-powered guns not just some.
Yeah, the ban wasn't the best and had it's share of loopholes, but why in the hell wasn't it renewed? You could always add onto the ban later. This doesn't look very good for our leadership in Congress.
I haven't heard ANYONE from EITHER side saying anything about it. And they should be.
Kerry spoke out against it just the other day. I've heard a lot of Democrats speaking against the lapsing of the ban.
This kind of weaponary calls for vilgilante justice , The cops are gonna be pissing their pants knowing some people could blast them away if they wanted too,The assualt rifle thing is just people feeding into their fears and angers, Which is why you shouldnt have it. This year a guy in some small tiny town turned trackter into a homemade tank and turned the place into a warzone nobody died because he choose not too but he could of a assault rifle wouldnt have worked on 3 plates 5 inche steel, Do you want to be like south america were Assault rifles have changed more local goverments then electorial votes in some years.

Here in canada my best freind before he made a huge change of life and found god *Ignores darunia*! Was part of a powerful gang that somtimes did jobs for the local mafia now I cant go into full detail as that would just be long and dragging likely all of you will just think this is some fictious story *its not*. Offerd him and showed him a assault rifle as a gift, He refused and broke away from that stuff later now he is a hard working upstanding citizen who pays his taxes . Lets get rid of these guerrilla war weapons out of our countries completely my goverment has made a move to contain this problem,Any crime involving a gun of any kind is automatic 10-15 years in jail on top of whatever primary charge you get for robbing or killing plus you have a assault rifle in your house you are screwed.The mob is hard to kill since it lives off exploiting human sinful inclination but it can be chiped off Mayor Giuliani did because he was determined and angry enough to do it.If the criminals use these weapons here in my country I havent heard of any such thing the Swat team will deal with it,If you feel insecure arm the police officers with more weapons not Jim Bob who thinks the IRS and the FBI are scanning him.


Is it wise to equip 18-21 year olds with assualt rifles? Anymore then it is giving regular guns to 10-17 year olds!

Anyone who pulls a gun and goes shooting mad has been killed by police forces most of the time, Some jerk off in Toronto got a gun pistol wiped his wife in a mall ran away knowing the cops and mall sercurity arrived! takes a hostage on the street 20 minutes later they try to negotiate , The Swat team takes aim from all vantage points blows his brains on too the side walk and the hostage goes free unharmed ,Nobody was killed or seriously injured besides the jack ass. Were did this guy get his gun? In detroit a year ago and had taken full advantage of a still unsecured bordercrossing.The way you have it in the states who needs to go to the mafia! Dealing with the mafia is dangerous if they give you a assualt rifle as a gift they want to make sure you wont rat on them if you do they will terminate you plus if you can afford the assualt and they give it as a gift its because they expect your obeidience,So really the only folks having this stuff is organized crime or some schmuck who can pay them 30 gran off the street, The average psychopath cant afford that if he was a theif the cops would probaily nab him before that since he would be on the radar.Because its ilegal assault rifles are at a minimum even if the gang has one or two its expensive some go for 100K the 30K range is conciderd cheap for a assault rifle bullets dont come easy either, If the guy like I said gets it free I doubt the mob wants him to use it freely to much attention from law enforcement radar.Swat can handel any heavy weapons out there leave it to the police or even army for this.

The U.S had sniper terror recently! "could a assault rifle protect you from a guy shooting so far away hidden out of site"?We cant give out snipers legaly obviously, cause that weapons is probaily more dangerous then assault rifles in the sense the shooter can hide and desapear in the shawdow.

We should focus as a society to teach that these weapons are evil stealing is evil and killing is evil.

Legalizing Assualt rifles makes them cheaper and will force ilegal salesmen to lower the price and increase availibility.Right now assault rifles are to complicated and more trouble then their worth for the average criminal organization.

Make a new law prohibiting all weapons above a hand pistol and hunting rifle.
Oh yeah, Canada has guns.

Anyway GR, my bad. Indeed, with glaring problems like that, the gun ban needed work. I'd still say it should have been kept in place and later expanded on.

Ya know, honestly, I think that all guns should have a single shot and be slow to reload. Leave it at that.

...On another note my dad owns the latest in technology... a super high tech material... bow and arrow set... Seiously...
Canada got some guns on the street thanks to you :(.

If You guys get Assualt rifles availible which I hope and somewhat doubt even Bush will tolerate.That spills over here it is our concern!

Id feel better if you would edit ND title,* Lets hope assault rifles get baned again* would make me feel better.
Nick, I assure you that if you try and go to the hood and shoot somebody with an assault rifle, you'll get stabbed, shot, mugged, and raped 28 times before you can even get a bullet off.

That being said, what in the fuck would you want to do with an assult rifle, besides kill each other? Is that the whole point of this law? Sounds pretty retarted to me. The whole reason that I think you even remotely approve of this law is because Democrats and Liberals will vouch against it, and you being the blind Republican sheep that you are, will naturally follow anything that people of the opposite politcal party won't.

Haha, Nick wanting to go in the hood alone with only one gun. How cute and sad.
Fittisize Wrote:Nick, I assure you that if you try and go to the hood and shoot somebody with an assault rifle, you'll get stabbed, shot, mugged, and raped 28 times before you can even get a bullet off.

Nick If you ever played any FPS you would know no amount of armament is enough to ensure survival,You wont be walking around with a assault rifle in hand its too big hide the cops might shoot at that, Like I have stated assault rifles are such expensive things some more rutheless gangters might crawl around you and kill you to claim it.Even if you had a gun and you also had 100k with you they might just risk it.
That's where the FPS analogy fails actually... Someone with a big gun would pose a huge obstacle to all except the guy with the sniper rifle perched 100 meters away... Also, in an FPS, you can take a hit. In the real world, every bullet is an instant kill, or near enough.
FPS are games it wouldnt be fun if it was realistic were one bullet is near death, But even FPS if your swarmed you could have better arms but it wont be a garantee even in the generous game world much less the real one.
Pfft! *plays Rainbow Six 3 and enjoys the hell out of it*
I couldn't understand that last part...