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Dude with all the things that could have made this movie better you could use to make your own movie, and it would still be better.

And thanks for the review ^_^
I have been wondering how this movie would turn out, I loved both serries and worked on several mods for the games, turns out my fears were right, it's even worse knowing I had a bigger scare of the movie being a flop then I'm going to get while watching the damn movie.
The general concensus among reviewers seems to be that the movie just isn't that good, which is sad because it had huge potential.
Lunatics made these movies and lunatics will make it better, Anderson tries to be good but he either tokes to much or not enough.

I saw the Alien origins documentary, The original designers and creators resent all the movies after Aliens 2 and I cant blaim them who likes to see your pride and art get waterd down into liquid smoothy.Its the studios when ever they need cash they milk and rape one of their past creations and eventually they forget how to do anything else.

What I would have done is change the hole formula , For one thing people dont scare easy anymore and like the video game industry they keep focusing on fancy effects and less on story and characters , This movie would have been better if it was played by Homeless people. Its not what you use its how you do it. Every Aliens movie had a theme the first one was life and death , Number 2 was Mother hood , Number 3 the studio sucked the life out of the original concept so it was basically a eaten up and barfed out story and its original director left so it got pulled around everywhere but its theme was redemption.AVP doesnt have a theme if it does its not visible , Aliens IV was pretty good it changed the original concept and also played with older ones. AVP is every movie you have ever seen cut into pieces and stitch back to together like frankenstein unfortunately those movies have been milked too , How much sucking will it take till the nipples fall off! Spiderman movies had to change and evolve the first movie was pretty well a comic book but the sequeil was a epic novel.
I'll be rooting for the Aliens. James Cameron's 'Aliens' is one of the greatest sci-fi- action films ever. The 'Predator' films didn't do much for me.
Yeah, Aliens was an awesome movie. It's actually the only movie in the series that I've seen, I really should see the first one. Predator was okay, not as good as Aliens but better than a lot of sci-fi action movies.
Lol...they spoofed 'Aliens' a bit tonight on Sealab; the one with the gloops. I'd never seen it before.

James Cameron's just about the best filmmaker ever! He made the only good (the only one I've seen or care to see) 'Aliens', he made True Lies, Titanic...such a diverse filmography, but they're all fuckin' great movies.
Odd, those are the exact movies I'm talking about when I say I can't stand action flicks.
My god man, how can you not like those---!
James Cameron also made Terminator 1-2, T3 was ok but clearly lacked the finese of JC.

I am pissed that the Aliens franchise is being turned into the same mold as Pop music its all about $$$ and less about passion and art.They have ruined it there could have been a potentially amazing Aliens movie or AVP but they ruined it by Deluding the glory with this half ass attempt.

Id like to get out of the shitty locked in a corner formula, I say its time to unleash the aliens on the hole planet and get into your bedrooms and homes.That might make it more like starcraft but hell it would have been better then this shit.
I haven't seen any of the Alien or Predator movies...
I love movie crossovers; I never cared for the Nightmare of Elmstreets, or the Jason movies, but Freddie vs. Jason was campily fun! Likewise; I think that Aliens vs. Predator will be the same.
Darunia, as for DJ, remember that she's a girl and that should explain it. :)
After seeing Aliens II , All I can say is they dont makem like they use too!

That movie was just surprise after surprise and even though I am hard to scare it did give me a buzz which is amazing, To be honnest Computer CGI is shit the old fasion way is more organic and fleshly ,Sure they cant move as good but they seem real thats the difference.
Game over, man!! Game over!!
After seeing Aliens II , All I can say is they dont makem like they use too!

That movie was just surprise after surprise and even though I am hard to scare it did give me a buzz which is amazing, To be honnest Computer CGI is shit the old fasion way is more organic and fleshly ,Sure they cant move as good but they seem real thats the difference.


Call Jesus--hell has frozen over! ASM said something smart! I completely agree with everything he said. Aliens is the greates sci-fi action movie ever. Throw in marines, aliens, guns...ah man what a mix. NOW, if they made 'Aliens' today, it'd be full of minorities, a black woman would be in charge, they'd talk about their feelings, and finally barter peace with the aliens rather than shoot them. :gay2:
:D
Ok I just watched the damn movie and I can safely say I am glad I got a pirated copy of the stupid film as it destroyed every thing that made any part of either serries good.

The movie was short, thats bassically what I can say without destroying the story line, the stupid director said he was a huge fan of aliens and that there's pretty much no one who has seen it as many times as him, it's pretty clear he didn't learn shit from any of the times he did watch them.

All I'll say is, Humans were useless, preds couldn't kill a fly except for one and the alience were about as unpredictable as a mouse near death from starvation and a mouse trap with the best cotage cheese in the world on it.

There's so much more I'd love to bash about this movie but I can't do that little cool red thing ASM does, so... I'll just say how much it sucked.

And uhh, yeah you could say I'm a REALLY big Aliens and Predator fan.
I watched it last weekend. There were a number of things that I thought should have been changed, but on the whole it wasn't THAT bad. Certaintly not as good as Alien/Aliens or Predator, but it may have been a tad better than Alien 3...
but.. but.. I. ME.. MYSELF could have done a ten times better job with the amount of money fox threw at Paul to do it.. hell, my little brothers could have acted better then half of the fools in the movie.

I cared more about the alien queen then I did about the main character.. and the alien queen is a cold hearted b*tch.
The Predators didnt suck like people say but they werent nearly as good like we expected.Then again the predators never faced such a enemy before?
They did seem like just guys in suites with no personality.
Sure they've taken them on before, the in pred2 you see a queens and an alien drones head in the ship ^_^

Aliens are the bitches of the universe, they're tough bitches though.. damn are they tough. But yeah, what the HELL was up with the whole marking of the face thing, I know in the comics they did some thing like that but I was under the impression that was just a seperate tribe from the main predators, also I loved the games, ALOT and let me tell you a good pred player could take out 20 aliens no trouble.. then again me as an alien player used to take out preds pretty easily, I dunno, it just felt messed up.
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/558/558106p1.html

I know I speak for everyone when I say :

NOOOOOO!

Arnt the sales figures proof enough Paul Anderson doesnt know a penis from a tooth brush?!!! This Proof industry executives are infested with termites in their heads!
Who dareth resurrect this thread from the annels of ancient history!
... so he brushes his teeth with his penis and pees with his toothbrush?
OB1 Wrote:... so he brushes his teeth with his penis and pees with his toothbrush?

Nope but he might try!
If they can get a decent director, Alien 5 could be a good movie.
Great Rumbler Wrote:If they can get a decent director, Alien 5 could be a good movie.

The problem with the studio is they let too many fools run their most lucrative franchises , They think that tossing millions of dollars in FX will make a good movie that sells. I dont understand them they could save money on pointless wasted CG animation and go back to the good old days of Alien and Aliens , Why do they pick clearly unpopular and high critized directors? Whats the Logic in that? If the want to keep cashing on the aliens franchise they have make a movie that atleast is on par with the most sucessful ones, It seems now its going into downward spiral each movie is even less then the one before it.

AVP did ok given its flaws , It was a popcorn movie , If Paul Anderson had not made it I bet with a more talented hand it could have been like the sales of spiderman.

On a more interesting note , The two alien heads in predator 2 were meant to be Aliens to tease people about their future plans,The prop man just made them look simular to them , Aparently they released a AVP comic book just before the "Skull" incident. They had a movie also planed in 1998 and even early but they postponed it to the future which is now the past.
Great Rumbler Wrote:If they can get a decent director, Alien 5 could be a good movie.

They had terrific directors for both Alien 3 (David Fincher) and 4 (Jean-Pierre Juenet of "City of Lost Children" and "Amelie" fame). It takes a good studio, a good screenplay writer, a good producer, and a good director to make a good Alien movie. Sometimes not even the best directors can defeat the dumb studios and producers.
Instead of David Fincher they should have gotten David Cronenberg.
David Fincher is a very good director... and Juenet is even better.

A Cronenberg Alien movie would be... great, to say the very least. But only if he had complete control over the film. Which would never, ever, ever, never, frever, nevernafe, freneverfenverdanef everfrer happen!
I just finnished seeing the first alien film , I got to admit I was a little bored except near the end.I guess if you had seen Aliens first it probaily doesnt compare.

Was that a Predator ship in it though? They look simular inside.

Alien 3 got stinged by complications in management and they had to change directors early during shooting, They also say the movie would have been better if the studio didnt interfere and have so many scenes cut because of the suggestion of early teenage screeners that got alot of important scenes dumped.

I think the biggest mistake was killing the girl , They could have just had another young look alike actress play her.Hicks would not have been bad either but I guess he probaily couldnt sign on then.They needed more Aliens , how could you like going from swarms to back to just one four legged crawler? To me they should have just added a pack of them since it sort of was like a dog given thats were it originated from , They solve that problem by sacking into guard dogs given it was sopposed to be a prison.
ASM/

The director of Alien 3 (1992) is David Fincher, the same guy who directed Fight Club and Se7en. Alien 3 never changed directors, Ridley Scott (director, Alien 1979) expressed interest in the project but it never started production with Scott as director. Fincher told the writers from the start that he wanted to kill Hicks and Newt to make Ripley's character broken in spirit as well as sever any ties to anyone really close to her so that she can die at the end a widow with no 'husband' and no 'daughter'.

James Cameron (director/writer Aliens 1986) was extremely pissed about the choice Fincher made and said in multiple interviews that he would never touch the Aliens franchise again after that. I believe Ridley Scott said something like that as well. But Fincher did a good job in my opinion. It Alien-ated *phunny!* alot of fans because they just got off the high that Alien (terror) and Aliens (action) created, and Alien 3 is much more introspective with Ripley's character so it didn't do that well. But Alien Resurrection (director Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 1997) basically killed the franchise... and then 'AVP' raped it's rotting corpse so I wouldn't be surprised if we ever see another Alien movie that will be worth the 7 bucks to see it.

Also, your comment about Alien being boring until the end tells me that you're a moron and I dont need to waste anymore time talking to you.
lazyfatbum Wrote:ASM/

The director of Alien 3 (1992) is David Fincher, the same guy who directed Fight Club and Se7en. Alien 3 never changed directors, Ridley Scott (director, Alien 1979) expressed interest in the project but it never started production with Scott as director. Fincher told the writers from the start that he wanted to kill Hicks and Newt to make Ripley's character broken in spirit as well as sever any ties to anyone really close to her so that she can die at the end a widow with no 'husband' and no 'daughter'.

James Cameron (director/writer Aliens 1986) was extremely pissed about the choice Fincher made and said in multiple interviews that he would never touch the Aliens franchise again after that. I believe Ridley Scott said something like that as well. But Fincher did a good job in my opinion. It Alien-ated *phunny!* alot of fans because they just got off the high that Alien (terror) and Aliens (action) created, and Alien 3 is much more introspective with Ripley's character so it didn't do that well. But Alien Resurrection (director Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 1997) basically killed the franchise... and then 'AVP' raped it's rotting corpse so I wouldn't be surprised if we ever see another Alien movie that will be worth the 7 bucks to see it.

Also, your comment about Alien being boring until the end tells me that you're a moron and I dont need to waste anymore time talking to you.

Why would I be a moron ?
Its not really the end its just half way when the alien finally appears and starts killing them.To me its like A New Hope vs Empire Strikes back , We still love A new hope but we like ESB more . I had good reason to not enjoy as much like you did the first time you saw it I knew what was gonna happen , Only Rippley and Jones would live. The Alien bursting out of the guys chest isnt scary anymore since I saw that scene before and in all the films. That Rapist robot and his head falling off was kind of funny.

The Alien himself was good , He made my tired worn out eyes jump on a few occasions, I admit this movie is less action more spooks and shreks not a bad thing.

Fincher has made some good movies recently but that probaily waisnt his best ,Killing Newt was a bone headed decision that hole mom thing was the biggest character developement Rippley had established in Aliens, She lossed her own daughter and adopted Newt now they killed Newt recycling the damn story again back to sqaure one. They didnt need to wreck her life and make her suicidal the fact she had a alien queen in her chest was reason enough to kill herself to save her daughter and the universe, It would have been more griping to see her sacrifice then her suicide attempt!

That movie would have been better if Newt had not died , Have Rippley become protective of newt from the human monsters rapist molesters in the place.

I would have respected Alien 3 or cubed had it not ended the way it did, Did you know before they conciderd the cloning thing in Ressurection, The first script wanted Rippley to wake up on the Sullaco realizing it was all a dream and Aliens 3 never happend.Alot of fans would have been happy and would have been a chance to do damage control.
David Fincher himself said that he considers Alien 3 to be a failure and that he wished he could have had more control over the picture.